DVDFab shut down and domains seized

[Ichinisan]

BoomerD: I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what DVDFab is.

It enables you to rip your own copies for your own fair use - to watch on whichever device you want. Take away that ability, and outright downloading a pirated copy becomes far more appealing than buying it for yourself. Many people already choose the piracy route anyway because it's easier than making your own DRM-free rip to put on your device. Getting rid of software like this takes away the ethical choice and leaves piracy as the only choice.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I don't give two shits about anyone who rips a copy of a disk they purchased from Amazon/BestBuy/other company to use as a back-up copy, for a copy they can take while traveling, etc...But I DO care about those who rip copies to sell to others. THAT is what I meant by thieves...but then again, I think you knew that.

If you actually care about limiting piracy then you should SUPPORT anything that tries to allow regular consumers to get fair use out of their media and therefore HATE this turn of events.

When media companies use legislation, artificial supply constraints (the "Disney Vault") and DRM to make acquisition, fair use and playback harder for legitimate consumers it often pushes these people to illegitimate sources for the content.

These rulings never stop the real pirates, they never stop the DVDs sold in the streets. Those are ripped or scanned in China or Europe far away from US control.

But what rulings like this DOES do is increase the economies of scale for the forces of piracy (because otherwise legitimate users are joining in to get access to content in ways that are convenient) which CAN have an effect on the resources of the "thieves" you so hate.


You fist pumping about this ruling is akin to a grandma in a bad neighborhood getting excited that the nearby pot dealer got caught when now those clients will turn to the meth dealer that is really destroying her community.

 

[sdifox]

America, land of the free. Brought to you by Corporate America.

 

[sdifox]

Do you rip them for yourself, or, like the companies in the OP, do you rip them to sell/share with people who, unlike yourself, haven't actually bought the DVD/BluRay through a legitimate source?

I don't give two shits about anyone who rips a copy of a disk they purchased from Amazon/BestBuy/other company to use as a back-up copy, for a copy they can take while traveling, etc...But I DO care about those who rip copies to sell to others. THAT is what I meant by thieves...but then again, I think you knew that.

old pictures of 1,200 legit store bought DVDs. DVDFab is aimed at people that bought shit ton of content and want to rip it onto media server. Good thing I don't have to deal with American bullshit laws.

 

[StrangerGuy]

lmao, the mass pirate scene has turned to ~1GB 720p bluray rips and they now they still want to shoot down a DVD messenger? Do they know how to spell stoopid.

 

[sdifox]

lmao, the mass pirate scene has turned to ~1GB 720p bluray rips and they now they still want to shoot down a DVD messenger? Do they know how to spell stoopid.

DVDFab does BRD too. The name is a holdover.

 

[TwiceOver]

DVDFab should just freeware it and stick it to the man.

Optical media is nearly dead except for those that wet themselves over PQ.

 

[AMDZen]

DVDFab does BRD too. The name is a holdover.

It doesn't matter. If you think the scene is using DVDFab and not one of a dozen more other tools that do the same thing, you're as Naive as BoomerD is. And the naive is strong in that one.

This is just idiots in our government trying to make a statement over archaic copyright law that means absolutely nothing. And will do as much to the overall pirating of movies as throwing one bully at one school in jail for stealing lunch money.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Optical media is nearly dead except for those that wet themselves over PQ.

Well and those who don't want to have to sign up for 3 different streaming services simply because the content providers are too greedy to come together on a common solution.

A Blu Ray player never says "oh no, your Braveheart disc. Sorry I don't have the rights to play certain Paramount Pictures releases after January 1st of this year."

(In reference to:

http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...g-a-bunch-of-movies-on-jan-1-heres-which-ones
)

 

[sdifox]

It doesn't matter. If you think the scene is using DVDFab and not one of a dozen more other tools that do the same thing, you're as Naive as BoomerD is. And the naive is strong in that one.

This is just idiots in our government trying to make a statement over archaic copyright law that means absolutely nothing. And will do as much to the overall pirating of movies as throwing one bully at one school in jail for stealing lunch money.

Nope, not saying pirates use DVDFab at all, which is kind of the point we are trying to make to Boomer...

 

[AMDZen]

Nope, not saying pirates use DVDFab at all, which is kind of the point we are trying to make to Boomer...

Gotcha. I picked that post to reply to but I was really responding to BoomerD and anyone who agrees with him. If I had kept reading all of your subsequent posts I would have realized you are on the correct side of the argument.

 

[TerryMathews]

A Blu Ray player never says "oh no, your Braveheart disc. Sorry I don't have the rights to play certain Paramount Pictures releases after January 1st of this year."

No, but some of them do lose the ability to play new titles.

 

[dainthomas]

Because they're thieves. Plain and simple.

I own a lifetime subscription to DVDFab (oops) and I rip blurays I own to watch on my laptop or tablet. Who am I stealing from?

 

[TwiceOver]

Well and those who don't want to have to sign up for 3 different streaming services simply because the content providers are too greedy to come together on a common solution.

A Blu Ray player never says "oh no, your Braveheart disc. Sorry I don't have the rights to play certain Paramount Pictures releases after January 1st of this year."

(In reference to:

http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...g-a-bunch-of-movies-on-jan-1-heres-which-ones
)

I wasn't talking about Netflix/Amazon. Ultraviolet or a similar service is what I was getting at.

 

[techs]

Gun makers are not held responsible when someone misuses a gun to commit a crime. Yet, software makers are?

big WTF.

 

[BoberFett]

Because they're thieves. Plain and simple.

IP proponents need to make up their mind. Are they selling us a physical item or a license to use content?

If it's a physical item, then we should be free to resell it, which they hate.

If it's a license to use the content, then we should be free to format shift it, which they hate.

Assholes IP owners like the best of both worlds. They want to charge us repeatedly for the same thing, tell us how we can use their products, prevent resale of used items, just to name a few.

Fuck IP. I have no respect for it at this point.

 

[Aikouka]

I own a lifetime subscription to DVDFab (oops) and I rip blurays I own to watch on my laptop or tablet. Who am I stealing from?

The companies would argue that you're supposed to buy it again from some digital source (iTunes, etc.) if you wish to watch it without having to use the BluRay medium. Honestly, businesses will be businesses, and if they can find an excuse to try to get (extort?) more money (they love their money) out of you, they will.

 

[dainthomas]

The companies would argue that you're supposed to buy it again from some digital source (iTunes, etc.) if you wish to watch it without having to use the BluRay medium. Honestly, businesses will be businesses, and if they can find an excuse to try to get (extort?) more money (they love their money) out of you, they will.

They can play whack-a-mole with these companies all they want, but it will be futile as long as a subset of customers demand the flexibility to use legitimately purchased content on any device.

The music industry learned (how many CD's are encrypted?), it's only a matter of time before movie companies learn.

 

[Anubis]

Do you rip them for yourself, or, like the companies in the OP, do you rip them to sell/share with people who, unlike yourself, haven't actually bought the DVD/BluRay through a legitimate source?

I don't give two shits about anyone who rips a copy of a disk they purchased from Amazon/BestBuy/other company to use as a back-up copy, for a copy they can take while traveling, etc...But I DO care about those who rip copies to sell to others. THAT is what I meant by thieves...but then again, I think you knew that.

this will do very little to stop the true "thieves", it just hurts the normal end user who wants to make backups

 

[Red Squirrel]

This is retarded. So they're going after the tools now too? This is like going after gun manufacturers because people use guns to kill people.

This war on piracy is such bullshit and so many people and companies are victimized because of it for no reason.

 

[PliotronX]

This is retarded. So they're going after the tools now too? This is like going after gun manufacturers because people use guns to kill people.

This war on piracy is such bullshit and so many people and companies are victimized because of it for no reason.

The only difference is that if gun manufacturers were shut down in this fashion, it means they would stop being able to produce for federal and local law enforcement. Nobody in the government uses DVDfab (at least one would think so).

Still, a shame, DVDfab is a great tool.

 

[BoberFett]

I'm not getting into that fucking argument with you. IP laws exist for a reason...to make money for the creator of said IP.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Copyright exists

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

It doesn't say a goddam thing about making money. Disney and all the other fuckers out there who are trying to extend copyright out to Life of the Creator + 80,000 years have made it about neverending money. But that's not part of the deal.

 

[QueBert]

It's not legal to rip DVD's & BluRays & Music CD's you own, at least in the US. You do not have the legal right to make back up copies or rip them. I guess technically people could legally use DVDFab to rip and copy their wedding videos and anything they shoot on a optical drive based video camera. I suppose it's also legally used to rip a DVD or BRD that doesn't have any encryption you have to break. But I've literally came across 1 store bough DVD that wasn't encrypted. So that's kinda a moot point.

 

[sdifox]

It's not legal to rip DVD's & BluRays & Music CD's you own, at least in the US. You do not have the legal right to make back up copies or rip them. I guess technically people could legally use DVDFab to rip and copy their wedding videos and anything they shoot on a optical drive based video camera. I suppose it's also legally used to rip a DVD or BRD that doesn't have any encryption you have to break. But I've literally came across 1 store bough DVD that wasn't encrypted. So that's kinda a moot point.

DMCA has to die.

 

[Puppies04]

Here is the new link to the Forums .. http://forum.dvdfab.cn/index.php
I own their product and the only things I use it for are an occassional backup copy of the dvd. Or if I ever build a media server pc, I would use it to rip the dvd collections to the hard drive. I do not use Blu-Ray at present.

Thats like saying I own roofies but I only use them to get a good nights sleep.