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DVDFab shut down and domains seized

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theevilsharpie said:
If you have a new way of monetizing IP that allows content creators to make a profit without selling something
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musicians already most most of their money from performances. not sales of mdia or merchandise. good thing the companies kept them out of the profits and now the musicians care nothing anymore about this stuff.
 
BoomerD said:
Because they're thieves. Plain and simple.
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The people that use the software might be thieves ( a small fraction of the users) but how are the creators thieves? That's like saying the folks at Smith & Wesson or Sturm, Ruger & Co are murderers.
 
Wow...hadn't heard that name in forever! Does DVD Shrink still exist?

I had no idea people still used this kind of stuff.
 
norseamd said:
musicians already most most of their money from performances. not sales of mdia or merchandise. good thing the companies kept them out of the profits and now the musicians care nothing anymore about this stuff.
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Your posts are making less and less sense.

Please try to use punctuation, capitalization, spelling...you know...the things that make your posts readable?
 
BoomerD said:
Because they're thieves. Plain and simple.
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I rip every DVD and Blu-ray I own and place it on my Plex Server. Am I a thief?

EDIT: Nevermind, you addressed it later in the thread:

BoomerD said:
I don't give two shits about anyone who rips a copy of a disk they purchased from Amazon/BestBuy/other company to use as a back-up copy, for a copy they can take while traveling, etc...But I DO care about those who rip copies to sell to others. THAT is what I meant by thieves...but then again, I think you knew that.
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Kneedragger said:
Pretty much the same thing I do.
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I guess MakeMKV and Handbrake are still available (for now at least). I haven't used them much because software like DVDFab, DVD Shrink, etc. seems to consolidate everything and make it faster/easier.

I have a right to make backup copies of my media, so to hell with those saying I don't. As a matter-of-fact, the ability to rip and transcode movies and place them on my Plex server has GREATLY increased my media purchases over the past year.
 
waggy said:
same. well i rip the kids DVD's and Blu-ray's.


though from the looks of it we aren't going to be able to do it much longer...
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IndyColtsFan said:
I guess MakeMKV and Handbrake are still available (for now at least). I haven't used them much because software like DVDFab, DVD Shrink, etc. seems to consolidate everything and make it faster/easier.

I have a right to make backup copies of my media, so to hell with those saying I don't. As a matter-of-fact, the ability to rip and transcode movies and place them on my Plex server has GREATLY increased my media purchases over the past year.
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Yeah I've been mostly using MakeMKV, works great! Its seems to be in Beta for a long time though..
 
This could be the first foot dropping, and the second with exposure of all registered owners of DVDFAB thus legal action against each and every registered owner.
Remember Napster? Remember the personal lawsuits against downloaders of Napster sourced music? Remember the individuals sued and fined thousands of dollars because they had illegal Napster sourced music downloads on their pc?
Napster was free, if I remember. DvdFab is purchased and they have your name, address and credit card to verify who and where you are.
And the next step going after every registered owner of DVDFab is not that far fetched.
Unlike with Napster, they know exactly who and where these people are.

But on the other side of the issue, iTunes allows one to import-rip their own music CD, as well as all their friends CD collection, into iTunes and play all that music across several iTune devices. Even Amazon has their own personal cloud storage system for ones music collection. Along with allowing this amazon app to scan and upload your iTunes music collection. So whats the difference? How does iTunes or Amazon know which of your stored music collection was ripped from your own music CD's, and which might have been from friends or borrowed music CD's? They don't know.
 
It's my understanding that the technicality of illegal actions regarding the ripping of DVD's/Blu Rays revolves around the encryption on the disks. It's illegal to "break" that encryption. That's how they keep it illegal. I'm fairly certain that having a personal copy is within most "fair use laws" but getting that legally is difficult for most people, if not illegal unless you use sanctioned methods (Digital Copy included in BR Combo packs for example).

Music typically does not have encrypted data although over the years publishers have made it more and more annoying by trying to make music CD's unreadable in PC's. That's more of a function of putting up a fence in front of your house than putting a lock on it though.
 
If they went to the trouble to raid and shut down DvDfab, no doubt they will be looking thru that dvdfab registered owners list. I can't imagine them stopping with simply shutting down Dvdfab itself. Not when they also have access to everyone that bought and used the product.

I thought dvdfab was based off shore?
 
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Here is the new link to the Forums .. http://forum.dvdfab.cn/index.php
I own their product and the only things I use it for are an occassional backup copy of the dvd. Or if I ever build a media server pc, I would use it to rip the dvd collections to the hard drive. I do not use Blu-Ray at present.
 
Looks like its based in China and an alternative link to the China site is up and running, if you can read Chinese that is. 😀
 
I think DVDFab had some grey-area products but I still was quite appreciative of their free Bluray decrypter - I do agree that pretty much all commercial BR playback software is pretty awful.
 
sportage said:
This could be the first foot dropping, and the second with exposure of all registered owners of DVDFAB thus legal action against each and every registered owner.
Remember Napster? Remember the personal lawsuits against downloaders of Napster sourced music? Remember the individuals sued and fined thousands of dollars because they had illegal Napster sourced music downloads on their pc?
Napster was free, if I remember. DvdFab is purchased and they have your name, address and credit card to verify who and where you are.
And the next step going after every registered owner of DVDFab is not that far fetched.
Unlike with Napster, they know exactly who and where these people are.
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DVDFab is headquartered in Beijing. Good luck getting any of that data.
 
I legally rip DVDs at work all the time...we have a video conference system that will ONLY record to dvd. Once the meeting is over and the DVD is finalized I will bring it over to my pc and rip it over to avi or whatever format is needed.

Lobbyists can go to hell.
 
BlitzPuppet said:
I legally rip DVDs at work all the time...we have a video conference system that will ONLY record to dvd. Once the meeting is over and the DVD is finalized I will bring it over to my pc and rip it over to avi or whatever format is needed.

Lobbyists can go to hell.
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That's different. I highly doubt the recording software you are using has the encryption format that movie studios have adopted for their DVD/BR distribution.
 
vi edit said:
That's different. I highly doubt the recording software you are using has the encryption format that movie studios have adopted for their DVD/BR distribution.
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It is VERY different, although the software I have/use is pretty reliable and I'm used to it (A VERY important part :biggrin🙂. I'm not certain how easily/if it can be used for illegal purposes.

Just crossing my fingers against the chance of a "shotgun" fix/ban.
 
So is AnyDVDHD next? I, like most here, have ripped movies I've bought to play on mobile devices if they didn't come with a digital copy. None of my rips have been uploaded onto P2P.
 
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