DUI = Life in Prison

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Fingolfin269

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It's really unfortunate that we have no way to handle this other than putting the guy in jail. Addiction cannot always be cured and just because you tell someone they are not allowed to drive doesn't mean they won't.
 

erikistired

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It's really unfortunate that we have no way to handle this other than putting the guy in jail. Addiction cannot always be cured and just because you tell someone they are not allowed to drive doesn't mean they won't.

that's why he's in jail. i suppose you could cut off his hands and feet so he couldn't operate a car, but which is worse?
 

DJK Frank 16

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If you can't learn your lesson after the first time or two there is not better place for you then prison.
 

IceBergSLiM

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that's why he's in jail. i suppose you could cut off his hands and feet so he couldn't operate a car, but which is worse?

Both are after the fact punishments. It shouldn't even get to that point. There should be mandatory proactive technologies in vehicles, making it next to impossible to start a car with alcohol in your blood stream. Intentional circumvention or tampering with the sensors should in itself Carry a lifetime suspension of driving privileges.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Did this guy even have a licence after he got out of prison?
If so it proves that a license means fuck all and we need better means of keeping people off the roads.
 

dabuddha

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This piece of trash should have been executed when he murdered that school teacher.
 

Capt Caveman

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Should have been in jail for a longtime without the ability to gain a license after the first murder.
 
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bignateyk

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Apr 22, 2002
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Good. He should have been "put down" a while ago.

Everybody makes mistakes, but when it becomes a habit, it's time to leave society. He should have been jailed after the manslaughter and never been issued a license again.

Obviously he learned nothing from that incident and needs to be removed from society permanently.
 

Pheran

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Apr 26, 2001
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Is there anyone here that actually disagrees with this? He's already killed one person and obviously has no qualms about the possibility of killing another.

Now, if this story was about someone who had never killed anyone and had no criminal record other than the 3 DUIs, it would be a lot more controversial.
 

ShawnD1

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Okay, I know 3 strikes really screws people over, but when it comes to issues like getting girls preggers, people say "don't stick it if you can't handle it."

Well in one way, 3 strikes makes you realize that you got 3 fucking chances. You foul once, twice, and I think it's obvious you should be freaking careful to begin with for the 3rd time. What about for all the law abiding citizens that never even get 1/3 of the 3 strikes? Then what do you say? What makes it SO HARD for someone at 2/3 to control them selves so they don't hit 3/3? Come on. It's common sense.

This. Being caught driving drunk after you already killed someone and spent time in jail for it is mind boggling. He might not deserve shabby treatment but it should be fairly obvious that he cant be released into society. This is exactly why three strikes exists. Some people cant handle the responsibilities that come with being free.
 
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I'd prefer execution...in fact, I'd prefer immediate execution if anyone is ever injured from it. Since no one in this country has a spine other than me, I suppose I can settle for life in prison.
 

DrunkenSano

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Why the hell do they wait for the third strike? If you get caught driving drunk a second time, you should go to jail. A car is a deadly weapon.
 

kranky

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A couple years ago here, a man was given (up to) 5 years for his 11th DUI conviction. They put a woman away for 2.5-5 years for her 11th DUI in 16 years.

The other day they convicted a guy here of his 11th DUI but he hasn't been sentenced yet although the judge hinted that serious prison time is coming. The man's license has been suspended for various DUIs since 1977. That's over 30 years of driving with a suspended license and continuing to accumulate DUI convictions.

Apparently it takes double-digit DUI convictions before anyone goes to jail here.
 

DougK62

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Mar 28, 2001
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I guess I'll go against the grain and say that I don't agree with this. A punishment should fit the crime. He presumable already did his time for the manslaughter charge, so I don't think it's fair that they should still use that to give him 25 years for a DUI.
 

DrunkenSano

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On the contrary, it is assumed that you have learned your lesson while doing the time. If you haven't, you need a harsher penalty. Going to prison isn't like paying off a debt of crime bucks. You don't return to society with a crime balance of zero. Prison is suppose to teach you a lesson that the crime you committed is bad and you are being punished. If that can't get through the criminal's thick skull, then a harsher penalty needs to be enforced.
 

vi edit

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Even in light of my "Field sobriety test" thread on the front page of the forum I have to agree with this. I had an uncle killed by a drunk driver who had nearly a dozen previous DUI's and a suspended license. He only did 4 years in jail for it. I'm sure he'll nearly kill or will kill somebody else in the future. It's obvious these people have no desire or ability to change.
 

alkemyst

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Another funny thing about DUI laws most miss the mark on and how they have evolved from what their spirit was to be.

No one was ever trying to say a responsible adult couldn't have a few drinks and drive themselves home. It was about those with a problem that stumble out of a bar and into a car.

This guy in the OP needed to be put in jail, it's sad they used this as another reinforcement of the current dui laws.