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dude jailed for recording cops; will laugh to the bank

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dmcowen674 said:
Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where “no expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.
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Those are old articles, and I'm not convinced they still apply.
 
Baked said:
What a fucking idiot. I hope he gets ass ripped in jail so he can learn his lesson on spending more time doing productive shit, rather than instigating shit, like a normal citizen.

I don't see what's wrong with what the cop did. He wanted to check the douchebag's ID. If you don't have, the cop can assume you're an illegal alien.
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This guy is right. Cops by nature of their position are more highly trained individuals and it is not appropriate to question their authority, methods, or tactics through video tape review. It only interrupts the conduction of their duties, which, by default, are always performed correctly, because they would not have been granted such power if they were not capable of doing so.
 
Triumph said:
This guy is right. Cops by nature of their position are more highly trained individuals and it is not appropriate to question their authority, methods, or tactics through video tape review. It only interrupts the conduction of their duties, which, by default, are always performed correctly, because they would not have been granted such power if they were not capable of doing so.
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Lol, nice.

I'm surprised we aren't hearing more about cameras being "inadvertently" broken during the "struggle of arrest".
 
SpatiallyAware said:
I'm surprised we aren't hearing more about cameras being "inadvertently" broken during the "struggle of arrest".
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They aren't that subtle yet. They just record the contents, then delete it. Why should they go through the effort of fabricating a destruction, when there's no consequences for violating the law?
 
lxskllr said:
Those are old articles, and I'm not convinced they still apply.
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From this year, there are two people in Illinois facing life in prison for recording Chicago police

1-31-2012

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ous_illinois_law_that_makes_it_a_felony_.html


Illinois, like Massachusetts and Oregon, is famous for having one of the most draconian eavesdropping laws in the country. The New York Times recently profiled two Illinois citizens who ran afoul of the law that makes it a Class 1 felony to audio record a law-enforcement officer, state’s attorney, assistant state’s attorney, attorney general, assistant attorney general or judge in the performance of his or her duties. It is a crime to use any device “for the purpose of hearing or recording all or any part of any conversation … unless [done] with the consent of all of the parties to such conversation or electronic communication. …”

One of the two individuals facing a felony conviction is an artist charged with using a digital recorder when he was arrested in 2009 for selling art without a permit.

The other is a woman who used her BlackBerry to record Internal Affairs investigators who were interviewing her last August in connection with a sexual harassment complaint she’d filed against a police officer.
 
Peace officers need to be able to think and react quickly to situations as they develop. Adding a layer of insecurity because of possible punishment does not enable them to do their job properly. Immunity is a necessary thing if we want to have good law enforcement. The accountability movement will just lower the quality of law enforcement and eventually get peace officers killed.

This is why dogs are preemptively shot when peace officers make dynamic entries during home arrests, they can become a distraction and in that split second a peace officer is worrying about an animal the criminal at home can open fire on the officer.

Many here are prone to knee jerk reactions and don't think about the consequences.
 
momeNt said:
Peace officers need to be able to think and react quickly to situations as they develop. Adding a layer of insecurity because of possible punishment does not enable them to do their job properly. Immunity is a necessary thing if we want to have good law enforcement. The accountability movement will just lower the quality of law enforcement and eventually get peace officers killed.

This is why dogs are preemptively shot when peace officers make dynamic entries during home arrests, they can become a distraction and in that split second a peace officer is worrying about an animal the criminal at home can open fire on the officer.

Many here are prone to knee jerk reactions and don't think about the consequences.
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I already made one reverse psychology/ironic argument in this thread. You can't do the same. Only one example is permitted by forum rules.
 
momeNt said:
Peace officers need to be able to think and react quickly to situations as they develop. Adding a layer of insecurity because of possible punishment does not enable them to do their job properly. Immunity is a necessary thing if we want to have good law enforcement. The accountability movement will just lower the quality of law enforcement and eventually get peace officers killed.

This is why dogs are preemptively shot when peace officers make dynamic entries during home arrests, they can become a distraction and in that split second a peace officer is worrying about an animal the criminal at home can open fire on the officer.

Many here are prone to knee jerk reactions and don't think about the consequences.
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WHAT?!?!?!? Haahaahhahahah
Yea I would hate it to if people saw me break the law as well. Wait...
 
Triumph said:
I already made one reverse psychology/ironic argument in this thread. You can't do the same. Only one example is permitted by forum rules.
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Yours is snarky sarcasm.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I fully know that peace officers sometimes can be in the wrong, the accountability should not lie with them though directly but with the state broadly. You do not want to weigh down officers by having them worry about their job. Sure a citizen should be allowed to recover for a wrongful act done by a peace officer, but the officer should not be punished.
 
sdifox said:
So, we are all equal but some are more equal than others?
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