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dude jailed for recording cops; will laugh to the bank

What a fucking idiot. I hope he gets ass ripped in jail so he can learn his lesson on spending more time doing productive shit, rather than instigating shit, like a normal citizen.

I don't see what's wrong with what the cop did. He wanted to check the douchebag's ID. If you don't have, the cop can assume you're an illegal alien.
 
In California (and other non-police state jurisdictions) the police can't demand ID without reasonable suspicion. So yeah, unless he was obstructing justice the arresting officer is screwed.
 
bradley said:
In California (and other non-police state jurisdictions) the police can't demand ID without reasonable suspicion. So yeah, unless he was obstructing justice the arresting officer is screwed.
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More like the taxpayers are screwed. The guy will likely receive a healthy judgment from the city, but nothing will happen to the cop or the department.

rommelrommel said:
Alex Jones... need more be said?
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The article is actually from Carlos Miller at Photography Is Not A Crime. He tracks stories of unlawful arrests for photography/video recording, and was the victim of such a false arrest.
 
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Baked said:
What a fucking idiot. I hope he gets ass ripped in the gallows so he can learn his lesson on spending more time doing productive shit, rather than instigating shit, like a normal subject.

I don't see what's wrong with what the Redcoat did. He wanted to check the colonist's ID. If you don't have [it], the cop can assume you're an illegal alien.
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Not like this country was founded on people standing up for their rights or anything.
 
Normally I side with the cop if there is the slightest provocation or assholieness on the part of the recording citizen, but unless there were some interaction between them prior to the start of this video, where maybe the guy was told to stand further away but then violated that lawful order and came closer again, I would totally side with this guy on this. The cop never asked him what he was doing prior to getting physical and informing him that he was under arrest, in spite of his claim that he asked "several times" what he was doing. However, that interaction may have come before the start of the video. We know for certain that skilled antagonists or provocateurs often edit their videos for effect. Why does the video begin where it does?
 
Sulaco said:
That is a really imbecilic line of thinking when you actually think about it.
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i agree with you when it comes to civilians (what do i have to hide? things i choose to keep private) but not the police. they are doing a job as a public server - being paid by the public and are prone to abuse of power - at least it seems that way so i have no probs with people being allowed to record police while they're being paid.
 
then the police should be thrown off the force and arrested for committing a crime.

they'll keep on doing it if there's no punishment
 
The fact that this is illegal and enforced shows how police really have stuff to hide sometimes. On the other hand I can see why as a criminal could have a scanner to see what the cops are up to so they can act accordingly in the heat of a chase or other crime.
 
tommo123 said:
then the police should be thrown off the force and arrested for committing a crime.

they'll keep on doing it if there's no punishment
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There you go. It doesn't have to be a long time. Four months in jail, and picking up trash on the highways should get the point across.
 
The police doesn't want you to video record them because it makes them look bad when they screw up. Look at how long it takes for them to release a video of an incident where the cops are in the wrong. They purposely take months hoping the requester just gives up and/or the public forgets. If its to clear a cop of wrongdoing, its out within the hour.
 
Baked said:
What a fucking idiot. I hope he gets ass ripped in jail so he can learn his lesson on spending more time doing productive shit, rather than instigating shit, like a normal citizen.

I don't see what's wrong with what the cop did. He wanted to check the douchebag's ID. If you don't have, the cop can assume you're an illegal alien.
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fuck you.

this guy did NOTHING wrong and the cops abused there authority. Good for him and hope he gets a payday.
 
Originally Posted by dmcowen674
There are people in jail all over the country.

It is illegal to video or audio record the police. They own you.

Thebobo said:
Its is? Since when?
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Internet searching, you needs it

http://photocinenews.com/2010/06/03/videotaping-law-enforcement-illegal-in-3-states/

Videotaping Law Enforcement Illegal in 3 States



In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states (Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland), it is now illegal to record an on-duty police officer even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.


The legal justification for arresting the “shooter” rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway.



Since the police do not consent, the camera-wielder can be arrested.



Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where “no expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.
 
dmcowen674 said:
Originally Posted by dmcowen674
There are people in jail all over the country.

It is illegal to video or audio record the police. They own you.



Internet searching, you needs it

http://photocinenews.com/2010/06/03/videotaping-law-enforcement-illegal-in-3-states/

Videotaping Law Enforcement Illegal in 3 States



In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states (Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland), it is now illegal to record an on-duty police officer even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.


The legal justification for arresting the “shooter” rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway.



Since the police do not consent, the camera-wielder can be arrested.



Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where “no expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.
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That is just wrong.
 
So in regards to the Video recording of the on duty police officers in the cases of certain states where both parties must consent is there and statute requiring notification to that affect? Also, what about dash cams which record both audio and video, (audio on the police officer).
 
dmcowen674 said:
Originally Posted by dmcowen674
There are people in jail all over the country.

It is illegal to video or audio record the police. They own you.



Internet searching, you needs it

http://photocinenews.com/2010/06/03/videotaping-law-enforcement-illegal-in-3-states/

Videotaping Law Enforcement Illegal in 3 States



In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states (Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland), it is now illegal to record an on-duty police officer even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.


The legal justification for arresting the “shooter” rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway.



Since the police do not consent, the camera-wielder can be arrested.



Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where “no expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.
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And none of those are enforceable in court. If you notice when people push back at the district attorney the office will drop the charges. Why? Because they know if it goes to trial the law will be tossed out. They would rather keep the law on the books to intimidate people who dont know better.
 
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