Drug test at possible employer - just tell them I've smoked pot before?

[disappoint]

They do some drug testing in Canada too, but maybe that's just American companies?

I suppose it all goes back to our puritan origins. Everybody does (something evil) but nobody is allowed to admit it.

And remember kids (and adults). No sex even for procreation reasons. If God wanted you to have kids he would immaculately inseminate your wife for you.

 

[ControlD]

And remember kids (and adults). No sex even for procreation reasons. If God wanted you to have kids he would immaculately inseminate your wife for you.

I think having sex is OK, you just aren't supposed to enjoy it. 😀

 

[destrekor]

This is false. The cutoff is typically 15 ng/mL for the most sensitive of tests, and I am telling you that for a healthy person who smokes occasionally you will not see it after 3 days. If he smokes 2-3 times a week and is somewhat active, he should not test positive after 7 days.

From what I understand, the cutoff usually is 50ng/mL for the basic multi-panel test. If you test positive on that, then your sample goes to the lab for GC/MS testing, which is where the cutoff becomes 15ng/mL.

So if you can keep relatively clean for awhile and not test positive on the initial screening test, you won't be subjected to the much more stringent follow-up test.

HAW!!! 4-10 days for thc lol no.

I have done this before, I "partake" as well.

If you are thin and athletic it takes 28-31 days.

If you are slightly overweight like me, 5'8" 180lbs, it takes NO LESS than 44 days. NO LESS. :\

If you are "chubbier" then even longer.

I was surprised too. But its true.

and those drinks do not work

LOL I dont work in a drug testing lab.

But I have taken lots of drug tests and smoked lots of weed and I know how long it takes.
and the tests ive taken said right on it 50ng/ml im sure there could be other tests

but try this, go to walgreens, buy a drug test that includes thc detection, wait 15 days, take the test I 100% guarantee it will be positive.

Im not wrong, Ive been through this multiple times. Maybe its JUST ME and im a MUTANT but it takes 44 days for thc to get out of my system.

There are too many variables. If you smoke habitually, you build up the levels of the metabolite, THC-COOH, so that you may test over 50ng/mL far longer than the average person.

If you only smoke every now and then, you can very much pass even a more stringent test in less than a week. I'll say that home tests have demonstrated this as fact for me.

But for both regular users and even irregular users, other variables complicate the matter. Are you dense in muscle and have low body fat? Are you obese? Otherwise have a fair bit of body fat? Have a fast or slow metabolism? Etc etc etc.

A regular occasional user needs only a few days to a week to clear the system, or at least drop the levels to even below 20ng/mL if a test I used was accurate. Chronic users may need 90+ days to clear their system of the metabolite.



edit: I realize this may have already been pointed out, but I read 3 pages and had enough, didn't want to read every single post.

 

[Linflas]

They do some drug testing in Canada too, but maybe that's just American companies?

I suppose it all goes back to our puritan origins. Everybody does (something evil) but nobody is allowed to admit it.

Actually it goes back the the Chase, MD Amtrak train wreck where the engineer of the freight train that ran a stop signal was smoking pot while operating the train. The subsequent accident investigation led to legislation regarding work place drug testing for employees in safety related jobs and then the infamous "slippery slope" did the rest. The puritan origins theory might make sense if you ignore the fact that for most of the countries history prior to the 20th century there were very few laws regarding drug use.

 

[Bubblehappy]

Why sweat it until they actually offer you the job?

Go buy a *good* kit and you'll pass.

 

[gururu2]

From what I understand, the cutoff usually is 50ng/mL for the basic multi-panel test. If you test positive on that, then your sample goes to the lab for GC/MS testing, which is where the cutoff becomes 15ng/mL.

So if you can keep relatively clean for awhile and not test positive on the initial screening test, you won't be subjected to the much more stringent follow-up test.



There are too many variables. If you smoke habitually, you build up the levels of the metabolite, THC-COOH, so that you may test over 50ng/mL far longer than the average person.

If you only smoke every now and then, you can very much pass even a more stringent test in less than a week. I'll say that home tests have demonstrated this as fact for me.

But for both regular users and even irregular users, other variables complicate the matter. Are you dense in muscle and have low body fat? Are you obese? Otherwise have a fair bit of body fat? Have a fast or slow metabolism? Etc etc etc.

A regular occasional user needs only a few days to a week to clear the system, or at least drop the levels to even below 20ng/mL if a test I used was accurate. Chronic users may need 90+ days to clear their system of the metabolite.



edit: I realize this may have already been pointed out, but I read 3 pages and had enough, didn't want to read every single post.

Yes, this is all right.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Why sweat it until they actually offer you the job?

Go buy a *good* kit and you'll pass.

There is no faking a hair follicle test.

 

[disappoint]

I think having sex is OK, you just aren't supposed to enjoy it. 😀

Ahhh I see what you're saying. God doesn't enjoy immaculately inseminating people! No wonder he only did it once.

Think about it. If he did it once, he can do it again. In fact, he can do it every time. Then we would have nothing but Saviors running around. Society would be perfect. But no. He just didn't enjoy it. Makes perfect sense. If you throw critical thinking out the window. And who doesn't throw critical thinking out the window every now and then to see what happens if it lands on some poor unsuspecting sod's head?

 

[Scarpozzi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyrl1G6MUz0

 

[Jeffg010]

I have a question.

What happens if I go to a Rush concert and I have 5 people all around me smoking weed. If I was breathing in the second hand smoke would I test positive? If you even been to a Rush concert you know what I mean by plenty of second hand smoke.

 

[gururu2]

I have a question.

What happens if I go to a Rush concert and I have 5 people all around me smoking weed. If I was breathing in the second hand smoke would I test positive? If you even been to a Rush concert you know what I mean by plenty of second hand smoke.

This is the most common defense at trial for a THC positive result. The fact is, shown by numerous studies, that you would have to be exposed to a confined space (closed phone booth) with several smokers over a long period of time in order to hit positive by urinalysis. And you would have to be tested fairly quickly after the exposure. This defense never flies by the way with so much research on the subject.

On the contrary, environmental contact to something like cocaine can be far more successful since the powder is concentrated and can be contacted on a counter in a bar, bathroom or even money. Hard to dispute. Although DEA handlers of drug paraphernalia don't usually test positive....go figure.

 

[Guurn]

I had a roommate that was given a lie detector test for employment. They asked him the usual stuff. Have you ever stolen from an employer, have you taken drugs. Do you still use illegal drugs. He answered yes to all and they hired him. The real answer is it is hard to know what they will do if you test positive.

 

[TwiceOver]

This is the most common defense at trial for a THC positive result. The fact is, shown by numerous studies, that you would have to be exposed to a confined space (closed phone booth) with several smokers over a long period of time in order to hit positive by urinalysis. And you would have to be tested fairly quickly after the exposure. This defense never flies by the way with so much research on the subject.

On the contrary, environmental contact to something like cocaine can be far more successful since the powder is concentrated and can be contacted on a counter in a bar, bathroom or even money. Hard to dispute. Although DEA handlers of drug paraphernalia don't usually test positive....go figure.

But what if I went to an Alicia Keys concert at the Montage Mountain Performing Arts Center. I scored these great aisle seats. Anyway, after the opening act this beautiful girl sits down next to me and I never get to meet girls with lip rings and she had one. I don't know exactly how this happened but one of her friends started passing around some stuff and they said it was clove cigarettes, and I'm sure that it was clove cigarettes. Everybody in the aisle was doing it.

Fucked, right?

 

[Vdubchaos]

While looking for a job, any job, you stay away from weed at least 30 days.

Or have someone pee in a seal able cup for you and keep it warm under your arm when you go for a test.

Being honest = no hire

 

[gururu2]

But what if I went to an Alicia Keys concert at the Montage Mountain Performing Arts Center. I scored these great aisle seats. Anyway, after the opening act this beautiful girl sits down next to me and I never get to meet girls with lip rings and she had one. I don't know exactly how this happened but one of her friends started passing around some stuff and they said it was clove cigarettes, and I'm sure that it was clove cigarettes. Everybody in the aisle was doing it.

Fucked, right?

yes if you were worried about HIV

 

[zinfamous]

I have a question.

What happens if I go to a Rush concert and I have 5 people all around me smoking weed. If I was breathing in the second hand smoke would I test positive? If you even been to a Rush concert you know what I mean by plenty of second hand smoke.

I would guess that rocking to the sweet melody of Geddy Lee's voice and jamming bass lines, Alex Lifeson's radical riffs, and the driving percussion rhythms of the great Neil Peart would have jammed all of the ganja out of your system....

But I've been to a few Rush concerts and next to Phish or Grateful Dead shows...there is no comparison when it comes to the green haze, lol.

That defense never works, anyway.

 

[theeedude]

Tell them you smoke and intend to continue to, off the clock.
Either they will get over it and you will get the job, or they insist on intruding into your private life, and then I'd steer clear of them anyways.

 

[BUTCH1]

Failing a drug test is almost always automatic no hire, if you test positive on a pre-employment drug test it will show up in a background check for years and you will be Fk'd out of jobs for a long time. Tell them you changed your mind about the job but thanks anyway. Get yourself clean(usually 44 days) and then apply for jobs.

I know. Trust me. DO NOT FAIL a pre-employment drug test. skip that job till you are clean. its just 44 days (not 30 like everyone thinks)

1st off the drug test is business between OP and the possible future employer, it is ILLEGAL to maintain any kind of record that would be available outside the potential employers own HR records. 2nd OP stated to would be a hair test, this can go back as far as 3 months. OP you might want to discuss this with your possible employer before taking any test, who knows, if it's weed only they might let it slide but I doubt it. The major reason for pre-employment and random testing is so the Co. can qualify as a "drug free work-place" and receive a hefty discount on their workers comp insurance.

 

[zinfamous]

1st off the drug test is business between OP and the possible future employer, it is ILLEGAL to maintain any kind of record that would be available outside the potential employers own HR records. 2nd OP stated to would be a hair test, this can go back as far as 3 months. OP you might want to discuss this with your possible employer before taking any test, who knows, if it's weed only they might let it slide but I doubt it. The major reason for pre-employment and random testing is so the Co. can qualify as a "drug free work-place" and receive a hefty discount on their workers comp insurance.

You know what? I never realized that. Makes total sense.




But still fascist!

 

[Ns1]

I was hoping LPCTech would come back and tell us more about this national drug testing database.

 

[Mike64]

if you were worried about HIV

Seriously speaking, there was almost as a high a probability of his bursting bodily into flames from that cig, whatever it was, as becoming infected with HIV from it...

 

[Mike64]

it's an installer job, 4k projectors and movie theater sorta stuff

Forgot to mention this in my earlier post, but if it's a big(ger) regional/national company, I'd say absolutely forget it. If it's a small/local outfit, you might get away with admitting to weed, but without reliable "inside" info to that effect beforehand, it's just not worth the risk (ie, any risk of disclosure beyond them, which, however slight/theoretical, is always a possibility to one degree or another.) There's just not enough of an up-side in this case, for a job it doesn't sound like you'd be looking to stay in long-term and only one week into your job-search...

Even if they're a small outfit, if they really "didn't care" for whatever the reason (whether it's true moral/legal opposition, insurance purposes, "public image", or whatever), they wouldn't be testing for it in the first place...

 

[slackerinabox]

Forgot to mention this in my earlier post, but if it's a big(ger) regional/national company, I'd say absolutely forget it. If it's a small/local outfit, you might get away with admitting to weed, but without reliable "inside" info to that effect beforehand, it's just not worth the risk (ie, any risk of disclosure beyond them, which, however slight/theoretical, is always a possibility to one degree or another.) There's just not enough of an up-side in this case, for a job it doesn't sound like you'd be looking to stay in long-term and only one week into your job-search...

Even if they're a small outfit, if they really "didn't care" for whatever the reason (whether it's true moral/legal opposition, insurance purposes, "public image", or whatever), they wouldn't be testing for it in the first place...

Yes - I canceled the meeting citing the travel time (it's over an hour drive away) because I found out they're a gov' contractor and regional. Also their website was very patriotic - eagles, stars and stripes sorta stuff: just the sort of patriot (probably former military) who takes things like pot use way too seriously. The type to keep a blacklist, for example. Man, the stupid arguments I've gotten into with my cousin the marine, I know how that brain works when it comes to rules.

 

[destrekor]

Yes - I canceled the meeting citing the travel time (it's over an hour drive away) because I found out they're a gov' contractor and regional. Also their website was very patriotic - eagles, stars and stripes sorta stuff: just the sort of patriot (probably former military) who takes things like pot use way too seriously. The type to keep a blacklist, for example. Man, the stupid arguments I've gotten into with my cousin the marine, I know how that brain works when it comes to rules.

Not all military and government people are like that, but Marines tend to take the cake.
Source: me and buddies I know. 😉

But when it comes to employment, government contractors are generally required to test by federal standards IIRC, so there's no way they can even say they're cool with pot use but not other things, because that flies in the face of the government at this time.

And beyond government, when it comes to equipment installers, it's almost universal that they regularly test, if not randomly than at least at hire. If you were working internally, that would be one thing, but working for clients/customers, that's when they tend to prefer a certain image and reliability and drugs of any kind make them fearful. Yes, we all know plenty of regular pot smokers can be very reliable, it's not inherent to the drug any more than drinking two drinks a night. But we're still at this junction where pot isn't totally accepted yet. Even when it is, companies will be legally able to say they won't employ pot smokers. Just like now they can refuse to hire people who use nicotine. Do I agree? Hell no, but it is their right and I can agree to rights that I do not agree with, that's a fundamental thing. I would like to see conditional hire based on compulsory drug tests be deemed illegal, but until then, it is what it is.

 

[Artdeco]

Fed contractors or any agency taking federal funds have to follow federal laws, unfortunately, that means no failed drug tests.