Dragon Age Inquisiton pre-release benchmarks

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SlowSpyder

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I couldn't either, one was just darker than the other...

And those screenshots above don't look very good to me. The foliage looks horrible, and the flat surfaces in the second picture look awful. Considering the power this game supposedly needs, it doesn't look great.


Didn't see the full screen link when I first looked: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/commoncfm/comparison/?id=122843

Still though, I'm spending a lot more time just looking at details than you would ever do while actually playing the game. I think I can see a very slight difference in the rocks on the side of the screen. With ultra tessellation it looks like a couple of them have a bit more depth and rounding. But, that could just be the lighting too, for whatever reason the one screenshot is darker than the other.

Anyway, very slight difference. Not sure what adding even more tessellated surfaces would do other than drag performance down for no real difference in the visuals. < shrug >
 

Enigmoid

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Doesn't look like it favours AMD. The 770 hangs with the 280, the 750Ti with the 260X, the 760 with the 270X. Looks like the higher end Nvidia cards need a driver update. The 780 ti is only ~18% faster than the 770.
 

realibrad

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Doesn't look like it favours AMD. The 770 hangs with the 280, the 750Ti with the 260X, the 760 with the 270X. Looks like the higher end Nvidia cards need a driver update. The 780 ti is only ~18% faster than the 770.

The 770 is about $249 and the 280 is about $175. If a 280 is keeping up with a card that cost 40%+ more, then I would say it favors AMD.
 

SlowSpyder

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The 770 is about $249 and the 280 is about $175. If a 280 is keeping up with a card that cost 40%+ more, then I would say it favors AMD.

The R9 280X and GTX770 are and always have been competitors, or very close to one another. AMD has recently dropped prices, you'll see the same theme in many games... AMD offering better bang for the buck regarding performance. But, the difference is AMD has to drop prices it seems, where as Nvidia is sort of the Apple of the GPU world. When the 7970 launched and offered an advantage over the GTX580 in just about every way, the GTX580 price never budged, it didn't have to. I don't think there is any voodoo AMD coding going on here, just that AMD's GPU's for a given level of performance, in general, are less expensive than Nvidia based cards.

*edit - With Nvidia's premium price you get better Windows XP 32 bit support. :sneaky: ():)
 
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3DVagabond

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Does Inquisition have a built in benchmark?

Yes.
Benchmarks_Dragon_Age_1080p_-_Integraded_Benchmark-pcgh.png


I'm not overly concerned with visuals in this game, but

where did all that GPU/CPU power go... seriously


To create the Intel Core i7-920 despite the author overclocking to 3.8 GHz in many scenes with maximum details in Full-HD not even 30 frames per second. And even our test computer, an Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.5 GHz hangs under Direct X 11 with at least one thread close to the maximum load. No-one can load obviously distribute something, because if we reduce the resolution and turn off anti-aliasing, the Haswell creates under 720p around 120 fps, but each additional or reduced megahertz is also reflected in 1080p, including four times multisampling immediately in the frame rate down. More accurate they will be able to learn 01/2014 in the coming PCGH Edition.

The stage is set for AMD's low-level API Mantle. Particularly impressive is the performance gain by the close-to-the-metal interface in older or weaker CPUs - as the author's. In combination with a R9 290X, the elderly Bloomfield over Direct X set impressive 45% performance in Mantle.


Basically they converted well threaded engine, into (mostly) single threaded, or at the very least they made another CPU pig, and then they fixed this with Mantle.

I bet Nvidia will just fix this instead of crying to the press.

Considering that every other Mantle game has had multi thread support in DX, this one likely will too. If not, then it's hard to blame AMD since all of the others did.

Also, looking at the tess comparison, what don't you like?
 

3DVagabond

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Maybe I need to look at a larger screen shot, but I can't tell any difference when moving the slider for comparing the tessellation settings.

Look at the wall, if you really can't notice it anywhere else. I honestly don't know how anyone can't see the difference. It's night and day.
 

realibrad

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recent price drops.

Not sure what your point is. The 280 as far as I remember has never been more expensive than the 770. Both cards have had recent price drops. If we had been talking 280x, then maybe, as the prices are much closer. But the post I responded to was for the 280.

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Looking at the link graph it looks like the poster meant to say 280x and not 280. That does make a difference.
 
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f1sherman

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Look at the wall, if you really can't notice it anywhere else. I honestly don't know how anyone can't see the difference.

OK and now look at the upper right side stone (its left side)
Tessellation does nothing for its straight lines and unnatural polygon-like shape. It looks like someone has pickaxed that rock just yesterday.

It's night and day.

That I agree with - It really is NIGHT AND DAY(literally!) :biggrin:
 

Enigmoid

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The 770 is about $249 and the 280 is about $175. If a 280 is keeping up with a card that cost 40%+ more, then I would say it favors AMD.

Not sure what your point is. The 280 as far as I remember has never been more expensive than the 770. Both cards have had recent price drops. If we had been talking 280x, then maybe, as the prices are much closer. But the post I responded to was for the 280.

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Looking at the link graph it looks like the poster meant to say 280x and not 280. That does make a difference.

Not looking at price but performance brackets. 770 and 280X are pretty much equal in terms of performance. Same with DA:I.
 

escrow4

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A) 4 x MSAA testing is pointless, should have included at least no AA

B) There are no CPU benchmarks - and this game is CPU heavy

C) There are obviously no Day 1 drivers or patches

D) I have a 780 Ti GHz and I regret nothing.
 

SlowSpyder

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Look at the wall, if you really can't notice it anywhere else. I honestly don't know how anyone can't see the difference. It's night and day.


Yea, I mentioned in post #55 that I can see some difference in the rocks. I'm not sure that it is any more life-like, just that I can see a difference. I also think the lighting is a bit different in the screenshots, and that may play into it a bit.
 

Deders

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A) 4 x MSAA testing is pointless, should have included at least no AA

B) There are no CPU benchmarks - and this game is CPU heavy

C) There are obviously no Day 1 drivers or patches

D) I have a 780 Ti GHz and I regret nothing.

Agree on all points except C), according to here:

"EA promises there will be a day one patch to address certain issues, but the details aren't final. We'll update readers on any major changes to the game's stability after that patch is made available. In the meantime, be warned that the final product may still have some of these problems.
 

alcoholbob

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lol there goes my hope of running this at 4K with a single overclocked 980 :D

This game is way more demanding than BF4 it looks like, at 1080p settings maxed you can get like 85-90 fps on a single 980.

48fps at 1080p means even if I turn down SSAO, Shadows, and AA I'm looking at maybe 26-28fps at 4K.

GM200 can't come fast enough :O
 

escrow4

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lol there goes my hope of running this at 4K with a single overclocked 980 :D

This game is way more demanding than BF4 it looks like, at 1080p settings maxed you can get like 85-90 fps on a single 980.

48fps at 1080p means even if I turn down SSAO, Shadows, and AA I'm looking at maybe 26-28fps at 4K.

GM200 can't come fast enough :O

Thing is Frostbite scales really well across threads. Did the dev team monkey around and break something? Its suspicious there are no CPU benchmarks, even on a just a few core CPUs . . . . . .
 

Headfoot

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Thing is Frostbite scales really well across threads. Did the dev team monkey around and break something? Its suspicious there are no CPU benchmarks, even on a just a few core CPUs . . . . . .

Its possible that they took Frostbite then dumped all the game logic into a single thread. That would be very strange given how much time and money was spent on making Frostbite 3 more threaded in the first place though...
 
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I have an amd card, so am interested in what mantle will do. This is the first mantle game that I am really interested in. I have an i5 with only a HD7770, so I am not expecting much.

More concerned if the gameplay is more like DAO or DAII. Would love to buy the game, but I am waiting for reviews and comments on this forum, and perhaps for a sale. I've been burned too many times lately by Bioware/EA to get overly excited.
 

alcoholbob

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Aren't these benchmarks even worse than running Crysis 3/Ryse at max at 1080p? This might be the hardest game to run currently :D
 

garagisti

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PCGH did a pre-release benchmark preview of the game, and as expected, the game performs better on AMD hardware than NVidia at this time.

Also, Mantle is making a fair bit of difference. We'll see whether NVidia can close the gap or not, but AMD is definitely coming out strong..

I'm a bit disappointed at the weak tessellation factor in the game though, but I suppose I should have expected that since it was sponsored by AMD.. :whiste:

So you hold it against AMD that they're not trying to cripple performance?
 

Deders

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I have an amd card, so am interested in what mantle will do. This is the first mantle game that I am really interested in. I have an i5 with only a HD7770, so I am not expecting much.

Mantle in its current state seems to be a trade off between CPU load and Video memory with Ultra needing more than 4GB to play smoothly. Will be interesting to see what optimisations can be made.