Doom 3 "High" quality only available on 256mb cards?

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DAPUNISHER

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Hrrrmm... I'll have to find a way to frag you both then.
I'm certain there will be dedicated AT servers for playing D3 that can accomodate such a deathmatch :evil:
 

reallyscrued

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hahahahha.....now its really said. 6800U > 6800NU > 9800 with 256 megs of RAM. hhahaheheheh buying that 6800NU after all. so all this time u idiots who bought the 256 meg version of the 9800 actually DID get screwed. hehehe, 57 frames at HIGH. maybe il up it to ultra and get the same speeds as u eh apopin? FU, ur 12% slower aint jack $h!t.
 

VIAN

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Wow. So the 6800NU *CAN* run DoomIII in HQ mode. Interesting. I guess that Id guy didn't know WTF he was talking about.

It gets an average of 57FPS at 1280x1024 in DoomIII in HQ mode. That's perfect for anyone with a 17"/19" LCD IMO.

The 9800XT only gets 50FPS at 1024x768 in HQ mode. That's 14% slower in a lower resolution. I thought that the 9800XT was only supposed to be 12% slower, apoppin. Maybe now you will realize how drastically incorrect you were when you were throwing that number around. On top of that, you should apologize to Rollo for trashing his card saying it can't run in HQ mode when in reality it can and it outperforms your 256mb card.
Dammit, where do people get this 12% crap.

the 9800 XT is up to 40% slower than the 6800 with noAA/AF, but 20% faster with AA/AF.
 

XNice

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In general I could care less about what anyone else uses, and would never waste my time pointing out that I have a better video card(s) to someone. (it's rude, uncouth behavior IMO)

Apoppin; however, has spent the last month inexplicably trashing me and my fine 6800NU and telling other people why they shouldn't "waste" their money on one.

Number1, you did gloat about your new card.

Number2, thats what private messages are for. you seem old enough to know better, what with a 4 year old kid and all.

Apoppin dont argue with that fool because he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

I bought a 256mb 9800pro thats flashed to an XT. I paid $223 and then take away the $50 or so i'll prolly get for my ti4200 128. That is well worth the money for the D3 experience that people have been speculating on. So the 6800 SE vs 9800XT is moot. until they both cost the same on average you will always disagree...he sees performance....you see money. lol its like arguing wit a blind man about a pretty woman.
 

XNice

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Originally posted by: VIAN
Dammit, where do people get this 12% crap.

the 9800 XT is up to 40% slower than the 6800 with noAA/AF, but 20% faster with AA/AF.

A lot of people like to take 10% of a situation and run with it. It seems to happen more with computer stuff because the situation per say has a lot of different views to consider along with a lot of information to be taken in and understood.
 

Avalon

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I would assume that a 6800NU would run in High quality mode just as well as a 256mb 9800 pro. It has a lot of extra horsepower which should compensate for the lack of physical memory. Plus, these levels of recommended video memory are just that; recommendations. There is room for stretching.
 

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Originally posted by: Dman877
Good thing my friend bought a FX5200 256MB instead of the 9600Pro 128 I suggested then :).

I'd rather have the way better frame rate than have some better looking textures. It's going to run like crap on a FX 5200.
 

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Originally posted by: XNice
In general I could care less about what anyone else uses, and would never waste my time pointing out that I have a better video card(s) to someone. (it's rude, uncouth behavior IMO)

Apoppin; however, has spent the last month inexplicably trashing me and my fine 6800NU and telling other people why they shouldn't "waste" their money on one.

Number1, you did gloat about your new card.

Number2, thats what private messages are for. you seem old enough to know better, what with a 4 year old kid and all.

Apoppin dont argue with that fool because he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

I bought a 256mb 9800pro thats flashed to an XT. I paid $223 and then take away the $50 or so i'll prolly get for my ti4200 128. That is well worth the money for the D3 experience that people have been speculating on. So the 6800 SE vs 9800XT is moot. until they both cost the same on average you will always disagree...he sees performance....you see money. lol its like arguing wit a blind man about a pretty woman.


#1- Link please to where I "gloated" about my new card. (except in the posts I apologized for and edited)

#2- I only responded in kind, and I even apologized for that.

#3 I'm not speculating about anything, I'm playing D3 on a 128MB 6800NU as well as a X800XT PE could, much better than any "well worth it" 256MB 9800.
 

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Originally posted by: VIAN
Wow. So the 6800NU *CAN* run DoomIII in HQ mode. Interesting. I guess that Id guy didn't know WTF he was talking about.

It gets an average of 57FPS at 1280x1024 in DoomIII in HQ mode. That's perfect for anyone with a 17"/19" LCD IMO.

The 9800XT only gets 50FPS at 1024x768 in HQ mode. That's 14% slower in a lower resolution. I thought that the 9800XT was only supposed to be 12% slower, apoppin. Maybe now you will realize how drastically incorrect you were when you were throwing that number around. On top of that, you should apologize to Rollo for trashing his card saying it can't run in HQ mode when in reality it can and it outperforms your 256mb card.
Dammit, where do people get this 12% crap.

the 9800 XT is up to 40% slower than the 6800 with noAA/AF, but 20% faster with AA/AF.

Do you have a link to this claim where there are playable framerates? (30fps+)
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: reallyscrued
hahahahha.....now its really said. 6800U > 6800NU > 9800 with 256 megs of RAM. hhahaheheheh buying that 6800NU after all. so all this time u idiots who bought the 256 meg version of the 9800 actually DID get screwed. hehehe, 57 frames at HIGH. maybe il up it to ultra and get the same speeds as u eh apopin? FU, ur 12% slower aint jack $h!t.

Well you don't need to be an expert to understand that a previous gen gpu with 8pipes instead of 12, SM2 instead of SM3 will have inferior performance :roll:
But what about the HL2 based games? Are you sure the 6800NU will perform better if not less?
D3 is a case where all ATI cards generally perform much much worser than they should be compared to Nvidia.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Xyl3ne
Originally posted by: Dman877
Good thing my friend bought a FX5200 256MB instead of the 9600Pro 128 I suggested then :).

I'd rather have the way better frame rate than have some better looking textures. It's going to run like crap on a FX 5200.

Yeah...I would hope Dman is just kidding there, because you know...there's no way a 256mb FX5200 is going to run D3 in high quality mode if the 128mb 9800 pro can't.
 

XNice

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doom3 runs great on my rig.... high detail, 1024x768, 2x af/aa , opengl texture detail turned one slot away from high quality. Looks great!