Don't get caught speeding in Canada

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Red Dawn

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Doesn't the fucked up Canuck Government have a new seizure law where if you are just suspected of making money via illegal activities that they can seize any property purchased with those funds and it's up to the accused to prove his/her innocence?
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: mugs
Is there any source for the $2000-10,000 fine other than the cab driver?

This is exactly why I think radar detectors are overrated no matter how good they are. They only detect radar when the RADAR is ON, and if the cop really wants to nail people he's not going to be driving around or sitting around with his radar on constantly. PWNED is exactly right. The Nelson ha-ha graphic is appropriate here.

Originally posted by: Steve
Is the law still in effect that says when police have someone pulled over you must get one lane away?

Does it matter? That's just common sense.

Nvm... seems I can't find it on the MTO site atm...

Found something:
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1918.asp
 

Iron Woode

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I can't see how its legal for them to take your radar detector and not give it back.
its been illegal here since at least 1985. they can seize it and destroy it in front of you.

oddly, it was legal to buy a radar detector (usually not assembled) from Radio Shack here back in the day. You just couldn't use it.
 

Bootprint

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Jan 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: mugs
Is there any source for the $2000-10,000 fine other than the cab driver?

This is exactly why I think radar detectors are overrated no matter how good they are. They only detect radar when the RADAR is ON, and if the cop really wants to nail people he's not going to be driving around or sitting around with his radar on constantly. PWNED is exactly right. The Nelson ha-ha graphic is appropriate here.

Originally posted by: Steve
Is the law still in effect that says when police have someone pulled over you must get one lane away?

Does it matter? That's just common sense.

It's 3 points for

Failing to slow and carefully pass a stopped emergency vehicle
or
Failing to move, where possible, into another lane when passing a stopped emergency vehicle

Mind you I've always wondered what the definition of "Failing to slow" was? Seems kinda vague, is 10 kph enough on the highway or should I go from 100 on the highway to 50?

Ontario Demerit points

159.1
 

videogames101

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are radar detectors banned? anywhere that does this make me want to kill babies, the friggen government doesn't friggen own airwaves, even if they try to make it that way.... it's not like they even prevent you from getting caught, if anything, they're a better warning to slow down then being pulled over... moron government officials... /rant done
 

jlee

Lifer
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I can't see how its legal for them to take your radar detector and not give it back.

Similar to how it's legal for them to take cocaine and not give it back, I suppose? :p
 

Colt45

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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ignorance != innocence...

When you're doing 54% over the limit, you should assume bad stuff is going to happen.


He should have played really dumb, and said he thought the posted limit was in MPH... ;)
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Steve
Thank you Bootprint :)

Yeah I know there are laws that require you to move over. My point is, what difference does it make if there is a law or not? It's common sense. You shouldn't need a law to tell you what common sense is. You should move over or slow down regardless of whether there is a law that requires you to do so.
 

Aquaman

Lifer
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In some euro countries I heard the speeding ticket is determined by your income level. :eek:

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Steve

Lifer
May 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Steve
Thank you Bootprint :)

Yeah I know there are laws that require you to move over. My point is, what difference does it make if there is a law or not? It's common sense. You shouldn't need a law to tell you what common sense is. You should move over or slow down regardless of whether there is a law that requires you to do so.

I never said that I wouldn't move over.

I asked a simple, straight question, wanted and eventually got a simple, straight answer.

I don't give a damn about your delineating, off-point rambling manifesto diatribes. I just wanted a 'yes' or 'no' answer.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Hooray for FL! Cop clocked me doing 91 in a 70 trying to hit top speed in my car, I got pretty damn close too, 130 MPH at one point; luckily I saw him before he clocked me or I'd probably be in jail right now :p. It was on a completely empty stretch of highway, ended up paying a ticket lawyer and $200 court costs, bam, it's gone. Oh, and my radar detector was right there in my windshield, made him (FHP wearing a cowboy hat) act like a super asshole.

Florida has street racing laws, you are lucky you weren't doing 101mph.

I got clocked even before those about 20 years ago and I could have been taken to jail for that (speed over 100mph, mine was 127mph in a 55).

 

zeruty

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Jan 17, 2000
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who HASN'T driven over 130mph? the person who said he should spend a month in jail... that makes me sick
 

dawp

Lifer
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Originally posted by: zeruty
who HASN'T driven over 130mph? the person who said he should spend a month in jail... that makes me sick

on public streets, quite a few, me for 1,just in't sane at those speeds where you might have to contend with traffic, and even if it looks empty, u never know what might jump,pull or lay in front of you. hate to see what would happen if you hit something at those speeds in a street car. and most cars will struggle to reach 110 let alone 130+. not every car comes equiped with a preformance drivetrain.

 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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I already knew about this. It's fvcking obscene. As I have said before, anybody on the QEW in Ontario between NY state and toronto knows that there is nothing special about 150 km/hour. A LOT of people do it, traffic generally flows at 120-140 and a $2k+ fine for doing 150 is simply nuts. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. I know some fat virginal clowns here would say "tough crap", but it's not tough as them having to look in the mirror and my point still stands.

I agree that people driving 50kph over the speed limit should be handled the same as a racer.

You've not been on the QEW; i.e. you don't know what you're talking about.

Good. Anyone caught speeding should be executed on the spot. Do you know how many people die each year because of speeding drivers?

A lot less than if we executed those who sped.

Too punitive?? Not punitive enough in my opinion. He should be chilling in jail for a month.

For 154? You've never done this? And if you never have, the worst thing here is your social life. Must have sucked not having friends with cars when you were 16.

So we have responses of those who say he should be in jail for a month and another who wanted him executed.

Is there any source for the $2000-10,000 fine other than the cab driver?

Papers. THis was enacted months ago and is a legitimate law; Ontario will give you a mandatory massive ticket for 150+

are radar detectors banned?

In most of Canada, yes. I actually agree with this law; they are used in 99.9% of cases to break laws...laws that most of us break anyway (I don't know anybody who never speeds and hope I never meet such a sheep anyway), but these are used to break laws, there is basically no other good reason to have one.

ignorance != innocence...

When you're doing 54% over the limit, you should assume bad stuff is going to happen.

I'm sure he expected something bad, but nowhere in North America has such harsh punishment as Ontario, and as I said earlier, I've actually seen nowhere in NA that has speeds consistently as high as on the QEW and safely, too. It is a thousand lanes wide and the provincial or RCMP cops are never there anyway. I see about one cop per trip between Buffalo and Toronto. I've gone through radar traps "above the speed limit", they just don't seem compelled to stop speeders even though if they wanted they could fund a million jets for the federal gov if they'd only stop half of them under existing laws..
 

meltdown75

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Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Doesn't the fucked up Canuck Government have a new seizure law where if you are just suspected of making money via illegal activities that they can seize any property purchased with those funds and it's up to the accused to prove his/her innocence?
:confused:

Worry about your own FUCKED UP government.
 

videogames101

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Aug 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Skoorb

are radar detectors banned?

In most of Canada, yes. I actually agree with this law; they are used in 99.9% of cases to break laws...laws that most of us break anyway (I don't know anybody who never speeds and hope I never meet such a sheep anyway), but these are used to break laws, there is basically no other good reason to have one.

Uh, used to break laws? weakest arguement i've ever heard. If a have a detector and it goes off, it means one of 2 things. Either i've just been hit, in which case the fact i detected it means shit, and i still get pulled over, OR someone ahead of or near me got it, and i slow down. EITHER WAY, whether i get stopped for speeding, or if i slow down anyways without getting stopped, still results in me slowing down. if ANYTHING there more effective at enforcing the law then actually pulling people over.
 

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Doesn't the fucked up Canuck Government have a new seizure law where if you are just suspected of making money via illegal activities that they can seize any property purchased with those funds and it's up to the accused to prove his/her innocence?
:confused:

Worry about your own FUCKED UP government.

Funny that is exactly how I feel whenever I see Canadians ranting about the US government on these boards and elsewhere.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Doesn't the fucked up Canuck Government have a new seizure law where if you are just suspected of making money via illegal activities that they can seize any property purchased with those funds and it's up to the accused to prove his/her innocence?
:confused:

Worry about your own FUCKED UP government.

Funny that is exactly how I feel whenever I see Canadians ranting about the US government on these boards and elsewhere.
there's nothing funny about blatant trolling, especially from 'mods'.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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I knew when this law went into effect and have curtailed my own speeding as a result. The $295 ticket I got for 41 over in the stupid Chatham area was bad enough. Who does less than 120 km/h on that road? NOBODY!