Donald Trump releases his birth certificate, demands Obama does the same

[ayabe]

There was something about the laws being different back then and Obama's mothers age didn't comply with the age needed for a birth off US dirt. I never thought Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. However I do think he's hiding something. There are gaps and Obama spent millions in court. One idea is that communist Frank Marshal Davis (the fondly held "Frank" in Obama's book) is really Obama's father (see article linked below). Just looking at pics Obama does look more like Davis than the guy from Kenya. The ears, nose, lips, hairline, skin color, face lines - all these look more like Davis. Also check out the vid below and hear the voice of Davis. Its got that same baritone of Obama. "Op-ED, Jack Cashill: Obama’s Missing Year" http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2010/02/11/op-ed-jack-cashill-obamas-missing-year/

Frank Marshal Davis Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU

What a scoop, millions you say?

Now I really don't feel like I know him, so confused.

 

[Vette73]

Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009

Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and
former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records,
the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during
that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege
by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed
by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for
a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the
notice.

Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt
of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General
(directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal
Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate
the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the
Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning
whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

Did you even read what you posted or what he CHANGED? Before he did that is was 90 DAYS. So in affect he removed what Bush 2 had done, which is make it harder to get documents, and opened it up sooner.

Again, matt1970 is just a right wing nutter that can't even read.

http://obamatrueandfalse.com/2011/0...aled-obamas-birth-records-on-january-21-2009/

Executive Order 13489 was signed by President Barack Obama on January 21, 2009, his first day in office; that much is true. However, it applies to presidential work product, not personal records of presidents.
President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12667 on January 18, 1989, authorizing the United States Archivist to release presidential records for past presidents and for future presidents who did not object within 30 days of notification of release. Executive Order 12667 was in effect until November 5, 2001, when President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13233, revoking it. The Bush order made presidential records unavailable for 12 years following the end of a presidency and extended the notification period from 30 days to 90 days.

President Obama’s Executive Order 13489 revoked Bush’s order and substantively reinstated Reagan’s, thereby expanding access to presidential records, rather than narrowing it, as Birthers choose to think. But most importantly, as far as Birther mythology goes, no president’s birth records were involved in any of the three Executive Orders; therefore, President Obama did not seal his birth records with Executive Order 13489. His birth records are sealed by law in the State of Hawaii, where he was born, like anybody else’s.

 

[soundforbjt]

There was something about the laws being different back then and Obama's mothers age didn't comply with the age needed for a birth off US dirt. I never thought Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. However I do think he's hiding something. There are gaps and Obama spent millions in court. One idea is that communist Frank Marshal Davis (the fondly held "Frank" in Obama's book) is really Obama's father (see article linked below). Just looking at pics Obama does look more like Davis than the guy from Kenya. The ears, nose, lips, hairline, skin color, face lines - all these look more like Davis. Also check out the vid below and hear the voice of Davis. Its got that same baritone of Obama. "Op-ED, Jack Cashill: Obama’s Missing Year" http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2010/02/11/op-ed-jack-cashill-obamas-missing-year/

Frank Marshal Davis Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU

If he was Davis's son, he'd be a U.S. citizen also.

 

[jonks]

Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009

Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and
former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records,
the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during
that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege
by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed
by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for
a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the
notice.

Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt
of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General
(directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal
Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate
the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the
Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning
whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

I'm amazed your brain generates enough energy for your fingers to type.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009

Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and
former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records,
the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during
that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege
by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed
by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for
a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the
notice.

Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt
of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General
(directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal
Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate
the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the
Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning
whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/the-executive-order-13489-fallacy/

One of the spurious claims being circulated by the Birther fringe is that one of President Obama's first acts in office was to issue Executive Order 13489 (PDF), which they claim was intended to seal away his birth certificate, school records and other evidence that he is not a United States citizen or otherwise unqualified to be President.

However, this executive order is virtually the same as Executive Order 123283 (PDF), which President George W. Bush issued early in his presidency and which it replaced. That executive order is in turn virtually identical to its predecessor Executive Order 12667 which was issued by President Reagan. All of these orders deal specifically with the National Archive and its role in preserving presidential papers and records. The orders refer only to records generated by the office of the President during his administration which have been kept by the National Archive since that institution was created in 1934.

Starting with Reagan it has been the practice of successive presidents to keep their operating records secret until a later date when they are made public as part of the comprehensive record of their presidency. This concern over the secrecy of White House records clearly originated in the aftermath of the Nixon presidency, which explains the discussion of executive privilege in the orders in question. It's equally clear that none of these prior presidents had any interest in concealing President Obama's birth records.

However, what none of these Executive Orders have any authority over are documents which were not generated by the President's office while he was serving. They do not apply to state records like birth certificates or private records like school transcripts. The President does not have the authority to seal those records by executive order even if he wanted to, and nothing in these Executive Orders even attempts to do so.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Gee, Trump is a birther who'd of thunk it?
I knew he was an idiot this just confirms

 

[jonks]

Gee, Trump is a birther who'd of thunk it?
I knew he was an idiot this just confirms

As David Frum suggests, he could also just have a really, really, really low opinion of gop primary voters.

Not that that might not be a correct assumption to proceed upon.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

As David Frum suggests, he could also just have a really, really, really low opinion of gop primary voters.

Not that that might not be a correct assumption to proceed upon.

If thats the case then he just made the same terrible mistake as most in the GOP by playing to the minority lunatics in the partys base, and in doing so lost all credability with moderate and centerist which he would desperately need to have a chance in a general election. Stick a fork in him and call him done IMHO. But then again I don't think he ever seriously considered a presidential run, he's just creating publicity to feed his ravenous ego.

 

[Tom]

2 possibilities

A. Trump is an idiot.

B. Trump likes to jerk everyone's chain. Just for the helluva it.

 

[Matt1970]

However, what none of these Executive Orders have any authority over are documents which were not generated by the President's office while he was serving. They do not apply to state records like birth certificates or private records like school transcripts. The President does not have the authority to seal those records by executive order even if he wanted to, and nothing in these Executive Orders even attempts to do so.

Oh well, if blogcritics.org says it's true then it must be. The Governor of Hawaii has further barred the document from being viewed but she doesn't have that power either. You Obama worshipers couldn't find your ass with both hands. Every President before Obama has released their Birth Certificate. Obama for transparency.

 

[jonks]

Oh well, if blogcritics.org says it's true then it must be. The Governor of Hawaii has further barred the document from being viewed but she doesn't have that power either. You Obama worshipers couldn't find your ass with both hands. Every President before Obama has released their Birth Certificate. Obama for transparency.

Doubling down like a true moron. How about instead of requiring us to prove your ridiculous right wing nutjob conspiracy theory untrue (which we've done anyway) how about you show how it is true citing to some authoritative source? Good luck.

 

[soundforbjt]

Every President before Obama has released their Birth Certificate.

Not a true statement.

 

[Matt1970]

Well it will probably be released one way or another and then I like salt on my hat please, but Obama could easly put this to rest by just releasing it.

 

[Pens1566]

Well it will probably be released one way or another and then I like salt on my hat please, but Obama could easly put this to rest by just releasing it.

Cop out. Thx for playing. Tell Orly "Hi!" for us ...

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh well, if blogcritics.org says it's true then it must be. The Governor of Hawaii has further barred the document from being viewed but she doesn't have that power either. You Obama worshipers couldn't find your ass with both hands. Every President before Obama has released their Birth Certificate. Obama for transparency.

The boy just ain't right in the head, ain't right a-tall...

 

[jonks]

Well it will probably be released one way or another and then I like salt on my hat please, but Obama could easly put this to rest by just releasing it.

He has released it. When anyone asks hawaii for their birth cert they get what he got. Good enough for the CIA, FBI and State dept, but not good enough for redneck hillbillies who know better. He should do more than any other president has ever been required to do because you're a conspiracy nut and don't trust them brown people? No, sorry.

 

[Matt1970]

The boy just ain't right in the head, ain't right a-tall...

I thought we settled that already.

 

[Throckmorton]

There was something about the laws being different back then and Obama's mothers age didn't comply with the age needed for a birth off US dirt. I never thought Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. However I do think he's hiding something. There are gaps and Obama spent millions in court. One idea is that communist Frank Marshal Davis (the fondly held "Frank" in Obama's book) is really Obama's father (see article linked below). Just looking at pics Obama does look more like Davis than the guy from Kenya. The ears, nose, lips, hairline, skin color, face lines - all these look more like Davis. Also check out the vid below and hear the voice of Davis. Its got that same baritone of Obama. "Op-ED, Jack Cashill: Obama’s Missing Year" http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2010/02/11/op-ed-jack-cashill-obamas-missing-year/

Frank Marshal Davis Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU

That guy doesn't look anything like him. Unless you think all black people look alike.

 

[classy]

That guy doesn't look anything like him. Unless you think all black people look alike.

LOL

Obama looks nothing like that guy. hehehehehehehe

 

[Fern]

This looks like a calculated move by Trump. He keeps pushing it. Not sure what his end game is. But I do know this - he's getting millions and millions of $'s worth of free publicity.

Fern

 

[her209]

This looks like a calculated move by Trump. He keeps pushing it. Not sure what his end game is. But I do know this - he's getting millions and millions of $'s worth of free publicity.

Fern

He's pushing himself out there as a birther. Just when he has huge cred with the birther crowd, he finally accepts Obama's birth certificate as proof of citizenship.

:sneaky:

 

[IceBergSLiM]

True, but he was born before the Constitution was ratified and adopted. So that means:

NINE former US presidents were born on foreign soil!


Look at this list!

George Washington, b. 1732 and a natural-born British citizen
John Adams, b. 1735 and a natural-born British citizen
Thomas Jefferson, b. 1743 and a natural-born British citizen
James Madison, b. 1751 and a natural-born British citizen
James Monroe, b. 1758 and a natural-born British citizen
John Quincy Adams, b. 1767 and a natural-born British citizen
Andrew Jackson, b. 1767 and a natural-born British citizen
Martin Van Buren, b. 1782 and a natural-born British citizen
William Henry Harrison, b. 1773 and a natural-born British citizen



And not a single one with a birth certificate either.

and they were all freemasons too hmmmm :hmm::hmm:

well except Van Buren but as we all know he was the founder of the street gang the Van Buren Boys

 

[IceBergSLiM]

He has released it. When anyone asks hawaii for their birth cert they get what he got. Good enough for the CIA, FBI and State dept, but not good enough for redneck hillbillies who know better. He should do more than any other president has ever been required to do because you're a conspiracy nut and don't trust them brown people? No, sorry.

no he hasn't. Show it. Post the link. Go on...show us.

 

[jonks]

no he hasn't. Show it. Post the link. Go on...show us.

You bolded the wrong part.

When anyone asks hawaii for their birth cert they get what he got

Even that women who goes around showing her old beat up HI birth cert cannot get another copy of it if she loses the one she has. She can only get a cert of live birth.

 

[Vette73]

no he hasn't. Show it. Post the link. Go on...show us.