Donald Trump releases his birth certificate, demands Obama does the same

[Throckmorton]

Interesting... doesn't say anything about the silver spoon in his mouth

 

[Budmantom]

show of hands...


who thinks being a birther labels you as a complete idiot?



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Show of hands....

How many libs think that comrade Barry needs to follow any rules?

 

[UberNeuman]

Show of hands....

How many libs think that comrade Barry needs to follow any rules?

which rules means you?

 

[HomerJS]

I could chalk this up to the bat-shit wing of the Republican Party but that wing is 51%

 

[manimal]

I could chalk this up to the bat-shit wing of the Republican Party but that wing is 51%

we have entered the no spin zone~!



wait er spin zone..

 

[silverpig]

"Hey Trump, here's my real hair. Let's see yours!"

 

[trenchfoot]

Great...another businessman thinking he can run the Nation like a business......show business that is.:hmm:

 

[soundforbjt]

I could chalk this up to the bat-shit wing of the Republican Party but that wing is 51%

Don't forget the 21% that aren't sure. That makes 72% of the registered repubs that are mostly birthers. That leaves 28% of repubs who aren't crazy. Wonder what the % is here.

Trump, Huckabee, and the rest, are just playing to their base.

 

[Pens1566]

lol, birthers

 

[Tom]

George Washington wasn't born in the US.

 

[Vette73]

Is Trump a Dem plant? I mean Dems are raising more money now then Rep's even with the new open rules that allow corps to give freely and Obama not having a lot of support from the far left.

Only thing birthers will do is put up some nut on the R side and give Obama an easy 2nd term. i.e. the Sharon Angle effect.

 

[GoPackGo]

This phrase rang true 20 years ago and still rings true today "it's the economy stupid"

 

[her209]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH Trump self-pwnage
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/donald-trump-presents-wrong-birth-certificate/

 

[ccbadd]

George Washington wasn't born in the US.

Yes he was, in Virginia!

 

[ShawnD1]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH Trump self-pwnage
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/donald-trump-presents-wrong-birth-certificate/

Damn! That would be a hard one to recover from.


Does it seem like this shows he supports Obama's policies? If he thought the policies were wrong, he would say so. Instead, he's saying shit about birth conspiracies. Next he'll say black people are aliens. Their policies might be good, but they're still from outer space!!!

 

[Matt1970]

I don't mean to insinuate that he wasn't born in the US. I personally feel that law is ridiculous. If you don’t have to be a Naturalized Citizen to be a Governor, you should have to be one to be President. What Trump wants to see is the long form of the original birth certificate which lists the doctor, hospital name which every President before Obama has released. Obama ordered his sealed on day one of his Presidency.

There is some truth to what Trump says when he claims “Anyone can get a Certification Of Live Birth”

“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]”

I find it funny that the Certification of Live Birth shows the city he was born in as Honolulu if he wasn’t born there but I didn’t see any Certificates issued under that law that I can compare to. I am sure more we haven’t hear the end of this.

 

[jonks]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH Trump self-pwnage
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/donald-trump-presents-wrong-birth-certificate/

For those who didn't click, the "birth certificate" Trump presented as his own isn't actually an official document.

 

[Vette73]

I don't mean to insinuate that he wasn't born in the US. I personally feel that law is ridiculous. If you don’t have to be a Naturalized Citizen to be a Governor, you should have to be one to be President. What Trump wants to see is the long form of the original birth certificate which lists the doctor, hospital name which every President before Obama has released. Obama ordered his sealed on day one of his Presidency.

There is some truth to what Trump says when he claims “Anyone can get a Certification Of Live Birth”

“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]”

I find it funny that the Certification of Live Birth shows the city he was born in as Honolulu if he wasn’t born there but I didn’t see any Certificates issued under that law that I can compare to. I am sure more we haven’t hear the end of this.

Just so everybody knows this is 100% false and just shows you to never believe anything Matt1970 says as he is just another right wing nut.

 

[jonks]

I don't mean to insinuate that he wasn't born in the US... Obama ordered his sealed on day one of his Presidency.

You don't mean to insinuate he wasn't born here, otoh you find it suspicious that he ordered his birth cert sealed...HMMMM?

Actually he didn't (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/obamas-first-executive-order.htm), but keep repeating that if it makes you feel like there's rational debate to be had here.

 

[soundforbjt]

Yes he was, in Virginia!

True, but he was born before the Constitution was ratified and adopted. So that means:

NINE former US presidents were born on foreign soil!


Look at this list!

George Washington, b. 1732 and a natural-born British citizen
John Adams, b. 1735 and a natural-born British citizen
Thomas Jefferson, b. 1743 and a natural-born British citizen
James Madison, b. 1751 and a natural-born British citizen
James Monroe, b. 1758 and a natural-born British citizen
John Quincy Adams, b. 1767 and a natural-born British citizen
Andrew Jackson, b. 1767 and a natural-born British citizen
Martin Van Buren, b. 1782 and a natural-born British citizen
William Henry Harrison, b. 1773 and a natural-born British citizen



And not a single one with a birth certificate either.

 

[her209]

True, but he was born before the Constitution was ratified and adopted. So that means:

NINE former US presidents were born on foreign soil!

Look at this list!

George Washington, b. 1732 and a natural-born British citizen
John Adams, b. 1735 and a natural-born British citizen
Thomas Jefferson, b. 1743 and a natural-born British citizen
James Madison, b. 1751 and a natural-born British citizen
James Monroe, b. 1758 and a natural-born British citizen
John Quincy Adams, b. 1767 and a natural-born British citizen
Andrew Jackson, b. 1767 and a natural-born British citizen
Martin Van Buren, b. 1782 and a natural-born British citizen
William Henry Harrison, b. 1773 and a natural-born British citizen

And not a single one with a birth certificate either.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. The Constitution has a clause that allows for citizens at the time of the ratification.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

 

[soundforbjt]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. The Constitution has a clause that allows for citizens at the time of the ratification.

I know, but it's fun to poke fun at birthers.

 

[Matt1970]

Just so everybody knows this is 100% false and just shows you to never believe anything Matt1970 says as he is just another right wing nut.

Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009

Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and
former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records,
the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during
that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege
by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed
by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for
a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the
notice.

Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt
of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General
(directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal
Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate
the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the
Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning
whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

 

[Jhhnn]

Obama ordered his sealed on day one of his Presidency.

That's insane, and flies in the face of reality. Not surprising, considering your posting history.

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Birtherism is a looney tunes litmus test- If you'll believe in that, you'll believe in anything they tell you, provided it's nutty enough.

 

[finglobes]

Can someone clear something up for me? Isn't Obama's mother American, so why does it matter where he was born? Aren't all children of American citizens automatically become an American citizen?

There was something about the laws being different back then and Obama's mothers age didn't comply with the age needed for a birth off US dirt. I never thought Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. However I do think he's hiding something. There are gaps and Obama spent millions in court. One idea is that communist Frank Marshal Davis (the fondly held "Frank" in Obama's book) is really Obama's father (see article linked below). Just looking at pics Obama does look more like Davis than the guy from Kenya. The ears, nose, lips, hairline, skin color, face lines - all these look more like Davis. Also check out the vid below and hear the voice of Davis. Its got that same baritone of Obama. "Op-ED, Jack Cashill: Obama’s Missing Year" http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2010/02/11/op-ed-jack-cashill-obamas-missing-year/

Frank Marshal Davis Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU