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Did Trump jump the shark?

  • Yeah he will start losing now at the polls

  • Nothing can stop him, he will keep winning and get nominated.


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Hugo Drax

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Trump isn't running on a purely right wing platform though. He is much more to the center than the rest of the Repubs on many issues.

He acknowledges that problems do exist with the trade imbalances and with international labor competition hurting prospects for American workers. He is generally not concerned with many social issues, though in order to cater to the repub base, he says stupid things about abortion rights.

I simply see trump having a large appeal because people will forgive him for stuff they don't like if he says enough things that people do like, and since he changes his position on things often, he manages to get a lot of people following him.

He has charisma and connects to peoples emotions.

The numbers in the polls might not be there, but, we will have to see what happens.

yeah but he shot himself in the foot trying to chase after the Cruz Shaira law voters by saying women should be stoned to death/punished, whatever if they get an abortion. And that is so out of his Abortion stance. He really does not give a shit about Abortion but he has to at least play the game to get votes.

He overshot and probably lost a large number of centrist voters.
 

Blackjack200

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May 28, 2007
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Trump isn't running on a purely right wing platform though. He is much more to the center than the rest of the Repubs on many issues.

He acknowledges that problems do exist with the trade imbalances and with international labor competition hurting prospects for American workers. He is generally not concerned with many social issues, though in order to cater to the repub base, he says stupid things about abortion rights.

I simply see trump having a large appeal because people will forgive him for stuff they don't like if he says enough things that people do like, and since he changes his position on things often, he manages to get a lot of people following him.
He has charisma and connects to peoples emotions.

The numbers in the polls might not be there, but, we will have to see what happens.

I agree with this somewhat, but I've read a few pieces that suggest that people only ignore the stuff they don't like for so long. Like, you can ignore the issues that he has with women, but when it keeps coming up, and he keeps having spats with Megyn Kelly, and then he says women should be punished for abortions, sometimes over longer time periods it can wear on you.
 

Blackjack200

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yeah but he shot himself in the foot trying to chase after the Cruz Shaira law voters by saying women should be stoned to death/punished, whatever if they get an abortion. And that is so out of his Abortion stance. He really does not give a shit about Abortion but he has to at least play the game to get votes.

He overshot and probably lost a large number of centrist voters.

The hilarious thing about the abortion flare up is that it's so easy to handle a question like that:

"I'm focusing on the issues that are affecting Americans every day, but I will fill any supreme court vacancies with justices that respect the sanctity of life. That's the bottom line."
 
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The hilarious thing about the abortion flare up is that it's so easy to handle a question like that:

"I'm focusing on the issues that are affecting Americans every day, but I will fill any supreme court vacancies with justices that respect the sanctity of life. That's the bottom line."

you're expecting a clear, concise answer from drumpf? hope you're patient.
 

SP33Demon

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Can't Wisconsin be washed out by an overwhelming win in NY and PA? I'm still holding out for Drumpf and his newly-enfranchised gamersgate caucus of women-hating virgins to take the GOP back into the Bronze age.

:thumbsup:

Still better than Cruz.
Exactly, Trump wins where it matters. A liberal Republican state like WI isn't going to derail the Trump Train.
 

woolfe9998

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Greetings woolfe9998,

If I remember right a select committee meets a week before the convention to establish the new and improved rules. :eek:

I'm not sure I understand this process, but the article I linked says there is a "rule 40" in effect which states that a candidate must have won at least 8 state primaries or is not eligible to receive the nomination. It also states that the candidates can use their delegates to either change this rule or not, and that Trump and Cruz together have sufficient delegates to keep the rule in place.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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you're expecting a clear, concise answer from drumpf? hope you're patient.

Not at all, I just think it's hilarious how easy it is not to trip on a question like that, and Trump gets snagged. He's the little kid that gets his head stuck in the bannister.

I'm amazed how many people have the Drumpf plugin at this point. :D

I'm not sure I understand this process, but the article I linked says there is a "rule 40" in effect which states that a candidate must have won at least 8 state primaries or is not eligible to receive the nomination. It also states that the candidates can use their delegates to either change this rule or not, and that Trump and Cruz together have sufficient delegates to keep the rule in place.

I imagine that if they really wanted to, the party could find a way to circumvent that rule. That could lead to lawsuits though, and even if it didn't, I don't see the GOP going down that road.

BTW, the spotlight is starting to shine on old Ted, and it doesn't look good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-ted-cruz-should-worry-2016-republicans-too/
 
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drumpftrain.... lol...
I think most rational people would picture this, as of late
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hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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What ever the definition of jumping the shark is. So, yea. I used the term once and was told that I used it incorrectly and it was related to media.
 

soundforbjt

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Exactly, Trump wins where it matters. A liberal Republican state like WI isn't going to derail the Trump Train.

Are you forgetting the Walker recall, etc.? It's hardly a liberal R state.
It was the state's right-wing talk radio hosts that took down Trump.
 

disappoint

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I agree with this somewhat, but I've read a few pieces that suggest that people only ignore the stuff they don't like for so long. Like, you can ignore the issues that he has with women, but when it keeps coming up, and he keeps having spats with Megyn Kelly, and then he says women should be punished for abortions, sometimes over longer time periods it can wear on you.

Repetition and emotion are 2 ways that the critical thinking filter of the human mind is bypassed.

See how nice, concise and accurate that was? That is what you were alluding to.
 

Triloby

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yeah but he shot himself in the foot trying to chase after the Cruz Shaira law voters by saying women should be stoned to death/punished, whatever if they get an abortion. And that is so out of his Abortion stance. He really does not give a shit about Abortion but he has to at least play the game to get votes.

He overshot and probably lost a large number of centrist voters.

In the grand scheme of things, literally none of the running candidates give a shit about abortion. You can't really outlaw abortion in its entirety, but you also can't legalize it completely. So now everyone is stuck in this complex and confusing middle ground that absolutely nobody likes, for both pro-choice and pro-lifers.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Another no iq post from speedy.

Calling WI a liberal gop state is pretty clueless.
Actually WI is part of the Reagan Dem states along with OH and MI so they can go either way and their ideology is more like Ohio's than Mich with Cruz winning evangelicals. They are moderate, dipshit.

People who favored a candidate with more political experience unsurprisingly went for Cruz over Trump. But that should have been "Kasich territory," particularly given that Wisconsin is fairly moderate, she said.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/05/exit-poll-data-wisconsin-primary-april-5-2016

Not to mention Trump dissing Scott Walker, Ryan, and RNC chair (toyota) Priebus and it was a no brainer that he wasn't winning (they are all from WI if you are clueless).

It's a liberal/"moderate" state like OH (which Kasich easily won over Trump), get over it. Not as much libtardy as Minn but still very moderate since it falls under the category of a Reagan Democrat state. It's not a real red state.
 

Blackjack200

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Repetition and emotion are 2 ways that the critical thinking filter of the human mind is bypassed.

See how nice, concise and accurate that was? That is what you were alluding to.

More like repeated exposure to contrary data gradually eroding cognitive dissonance.

So yeah, your version was concise, but not at all accurate. Maybe you should read more carefully or think harder.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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In the grand scheme of things, literally none of the running candidates give a shit about abortion. You can't really outlaw abortion in its entirety, but you also can't legalize it completely. So now everyone is stuck in this complex and confusing middle ground that absolutely nobody likes, for both pro-choice and pro-lifers.
Probably true, although one could argue that to hardcore progressives like Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, and to hardcore social conservative Republican like Cruz, abortion truly is important even though they can neither completely abolish it or legalize it. Yet they too are stuck in your middle ground, and being politicians, one can never be sure how much (if any) of their relative zeal is honest.
 

brycejones

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Actually WI is part of the Reagan Dem states along with OH and MI so they can go either way and their ideology is more like Ohio's than Mich with Cruz winning evangelicals. They are moderate, dipshit.


http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/05/exit-poll-data-wisconsin-primary-april-5-2016

Not to mention Trump dissing Scott Walker, Ryan, and RNC chair (toyota) Priebus and it was a no brainer that he wasn't winning (they are all from WI if you are clueless).

It's a liberal/"moderate" state like OH (which Kasich easily won over Trump), get over it. Not as much libtardy as Minn but still very moderate since it falls under the category of a Reagan Democrat state. It's not a real red state.

The GOP in Wisconsin is NOT moderate. We're discussing the vote of Republicans not the overall make up of the state. Dip shit.
 

SP33Demon

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The GOP in Wisconsin is NOT moderate. We're discussing the vote of Republicans not the overall make up of the state. Dip shit.
If you disagree with Martha MacCullum, then write her a letter dipshit. She's a political expert and you're not. WI is moderate and Kasich-land like she said and like I knew before I even quoted her. Stick to OffTopic champ, you're getting eaten alive here.