Donald Trump Jumped the shark. Place your bet.

[soundforbjt]

That 26.3% is the popular vote figure. PBS incorrectly attributed the percentage popular vote to the numbers of delegates each candidate had.

In reality, Eisenhower lead by a bit over Taft. Once Fair Play amendment was approved at the convention, Eisenhower ended up with a huge advantage over Taft, something like 800+ vs. 250.

My bad, didn't bother to think to fact check PBS.

 

[MongGrel]

These polls are getting old fast, it's not even a good one.

 

[werepossum]

At the moment it doesn't seem like the country has anyone worthy of the presidency even in the race. No matter what happens the US loses. The entertainer, the preacher, the loon, or the crook. Take your pick.

Disagree. Sanders' politics are far from mine, but ethically and by experience he seems well qualified. And I still like Kasich, whose politics are closer to my own and who did excellent service balancing the budget in the Clinton years as well as doing a good job as governor, even though he's been flat-out wrong (attacking the cop who ticketed him) and silly (proposing a federal department or agency to "promote American values") in this campaign season. I think either of them would make a fine President.

 

[werepossum]

That 26.3% is the popular vote figure. PBS incorrectly attributed the percentage popular vote to the numbers of delegates each candidate had.

In reality, Eisenhower lead by a bit over Taft. Once Fair Play amendment was approved at the convention, Eisenhower ended up with a huge advantage over Taft, something like 800+ vs. 250.

Ain't it amusing how politicians always name their creations the opposite of what they actually do?

 

[compuwiz1]

His potential voting block is not concerned about this latest thing. What they care about are the issues he's been bold enough to bring up and campaign on.

Illegal immigration
Economy
Jobs
Care of Veterans
Destruction of ISIS
Trade Deficits

 

[Jhhnn]

Disagree. Sanders' politics are far from mine, but ethically and by experience he seems well qualified. And I still like Kasich, whose politics are closer to my own and who did excellent service balancing the budget in the Clinton years as well as doing a good job as governor, even though he's been flat-out wrong (attacking the cop who ticketed him) and silly (proposing a federal department or agency to "promote American values") in this campaign season. I think either of them would make a fine President.

OTOH, it seems like Kasich advocates a Darth Cheney foreign policy. He's he only candidate to advocate US troops in Syria, iirc. Opposes the Iran deal.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/John_Kasich_War_+_Peace.htm

He's on the right side of immigration so the base won't accept him and he's on the right side of medicaid expansion even if he does an excellent dance around the ACA.

Anti-choice. Tax cuts of course. Basic pastiche of Repub bullshit.

 

[UglyCasanova]

His potential voting block is not concerned about this latest thing. What they care about are the issues he's been bold enough to bring up and campaign on.

Illegal immigration
Economy
Jobs
Care of Veterans
Destruction of ISIS
Trade Deficits

Agreed. The messenger is a buffoon but he does address issues that others don't, or if they do it's just canned political responses. Trump supporters love the fact that he's not a politician, he says what's on his mind right or wrong, every utterance isn't focus group tested first, and he really does bring up the things that the remnants of the middle class actually care about.

 

[Jhhnn]

Agreed. The messenger is a buffoon but he does address issues that others don't, or if they do it's just canned political responses. Trump supporters love the fact that he's not a politician, he says what's on his mind right or wrong, every utterance isn't focus group tested first, and he really does bring up the things that the remnants of the middle class actually care about.

The jester can't be King.

 

[zinfamous]

You say nothing can stop Trump from getting the nomination?

Unless he earns 1237 for the first vote I doubt Trump gets the nomination.

I think many of us are now realizing how much power the delegates have in all this. I've been doing a little reading on the delegates themselves, not a lot but enough to make me doubt Trump gets the nomination unless he earns 1237.

Some (IDK how many) of Trump's delegates are not loyal to him, not at all. The delegates seem to be party apparatchiks, low level repub establishment worker types. That's how they were chosen, not because they personally support Trump. Trump's wins were a surprise. It seems some number of these delegates were hoping to vote for Jeb or whomever, but now find themselves compelled to vote for Trump, at least on the 1st convention ballot. Some are claiming no way in hell they vote for him in the 2nd round.

Trump, being inexperienced in politics didn't come to this realization until just lately, probably too late to do anything about it.

I suspect 'private polling' has, or is, taking place to gauge the loyalty and preferences of the Trump delegates. I also suspect that some private campaigning is taking place to woo his delegates for the 2nd vote.

So I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump shoved aside at the convention.

Fern

let me re-quote my post for you. I think you only read 8 words, which is actually pretty good considering the typical American attention span (for the record, I only read the first sentence of your post, which is at least 14 words. HAH!)

this.

Nothing can stop him from getting the nomination...or at least being the primary republican vote-getter in a 3-candidate general if that happens.

But he ain't winning POTUS.

But I think you're right, and that is why I added the addendum. Trump is going to go 3rd party if he doesn't get the nom. The crazy thing is that might end up sending the POTUS decision to Congress.

Well, maybe. All of the Dem + Women + Latino votes would be going to Hillary as well as some significant percentage of independents and even a minority of republicans....leaving Cruz and Trump to split the evangelical, crazy, and republican scrap vote.

 

[werepossum]

Agreed. The messenger is a buffoon but he does address issues that others don't, or if they do it's just canned political responses. Trump supporters love the fact that he's not a politician, he says what's on his mind right or wrong, every utterance isn't focus group tested first, and he really does bring up the things that the remnants of the middle class actually care about.

Exactly. It's refreshing to see a politician who says what he thinks - although "thinks" might be stretching it here. It's also refreshing to see a politician who still has the balls to point with his finger. I cannot stand to see these idiots pointing with their thumbs because some moron told them Americans get offended if you point with your finger. And he's the only candidate not Hispandering his/her ass off.

 

[DrDoug]

Exactly. It's refreshing to see a politician who says what he thinks - although "thinks" might be stretching it here. It's also refreshing to see a politician who still has the balls to point with his finger. I cannot stand to see these idiots pointing with their thumbs because some moron told them Americans get offended if you point with your finger. And he's the only candidate not Hispandering his/her ass off.

Drumpf likes to point because when he does he's got three more fingers pointed at himself, the most important man in the world.

I've got a finger for him and the best part is that I don't even have to point it at him, nor are the others pointed at myself. :thumbsup:

 

[lopri]

I think the novelty of Trump is wearing off and people are actually seeing that he is incompetent on many issues. He's got a tough fight for the rest of the states.

I think this is spot on. Though in my view the fatigue and boredom are bigger factors than his incompetence. Reality TV shows lose their appeal once excitement fades. Repetition brings boredom. And so on..

Take this very board, for example. A month ago there used to be 10 threads about The Duck and his campaign on a given day. Not any more.

 

[Triloby]

Trump can jump over as many sharks as he wants, it wouldn't mean a goddamned thing to his supporters.

If he wanted to, he could go on camera and easily advocate death threats against abortion providers or small businesses that hire illegals, and it wouldn't even faze his supporters or his chances one bit. That's how sad and pathetic things have become now.

 

[brycejones]

Trump can jump over as many sharks as he wants, it wouldn't mean a goddamned thing to his supporters.

If he wanted to, he could go on camera and easily advocate death threats against abortion providers or small businesses that hire illegals, and it wouldn't even faze his supporters or his chances one bit. That's how sad and pathetic things have become now.

The newbie appears to speak the truth.

 

[feralkid]

I think this is spot on. Though in my view the fatigue and boredom are bigger factors than his incompetence. Reality TV shows lose their appeal once excitement fades. Repetition brings boredom. And so on..

Take this very board, for example. A month ago there used to be 10 threads about The Duck and his campaign on a given day. Not any more.

Much of that reduction can be attributed to a certain steroid-popping manlet who somehow found the "off" button.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

stupid poll is stupid.

that said, drumpf seems to be sputtering now, especially when the press is FINALLY pressing him on actual answers rather than just platitudes of rah-rah bullshit

 

[Subyman]

His potential voting block is not concerned about this latest thing. What they care about are the issues he's been bold enough to bring up and campaign on.

Illegal immigration
Economy
Jobs
Care of Veterans
Destruction of ISIS
Trade Deficits

He's been loud about attributing the discussion of those issues to himself, but those are pillars of any campaign. He certainly isn't bold to bring them up, it is par for the course. He's "bold" in his stances on the issues.

 

[Jhhnn]

He's been loud about attributing the discussion of those issues to himself, but those are pillars of any campaign. He certainly isn't bold to bring them up, it is par for the course. He's "bold" in his stances on the issues.

He's the authoritarian side of conservative compartmentalization & denial. They crave strong leadership. But they want to tear down the govt.

Go figure.

 

[zephyrprime]

I really think he is doing this stuff on purpose and doesn't really want to win the presidency.

 

[Jhhnn]

I really think he is doing this stuff on purpose and doesn't really want to win the presidency.

Running for President is the biggest ego trip publicity stunt of his rich kid ego tripping life

He's a legend in his own mind.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Trump will will lose wisconsin to Cruz and you will see the decline from here on out.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I really think he is doing this stuff on purpose and doesn't really want to win the presidency.

He is just real rough ariund the edges. You cannot compare him to clinton with her team of speechwriters and analysts prepping speech packages for her to read when asked questions in public. Even the press is vetted ahead of time to insure the questions are not problematic.

When you hear clinton speak that is thousands of manhours worth of work in preparing what she says.

 

[Indus]

He is just real rough ariund the edges. You cannot compare him to clinton with her team of speechwriters and analysts prepping speech packages for her to read when asked questions in public. Even the press is vetted ahead of time to insure the questions are not problematic.

When you hear clinton speak that is thousands of manhours worth of work in preparing what she says.

Hillary has a sense of humor outside of what her speech writers tell her. You can tell by her laugh at random funny things.

Bernie has a sense of integrity. You can tell by his consistency and lack of humor.

Trump has a sense of superiority complex of his wang is bigger than yours. You can tell by his consistency of narcissism.

And Trump just had his Jeb moment with his 5 different stances on abortion in 3 or 5 days like Jeb had his 5 different stances on Iraq. He can't figure out what answer makes his wang bigger.

 

[MongGrel]

Hillary has a sense of humor outside of what her speech writers tell her. You can tell by her laugh at random funny things.

Bernie has a sense of integrity. You can tell by his consistency and lack of humor.

Trump has a sense of superiority complex of his wang is bigger than yours. You can tell by his consistency of narcissism.

And Trump just had his Jeb moment with his 5 different stances on abortion in 3 or 5 days like Jeb had his 5 different stances on Iraq. He can't figure out what answer makes his wang bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jh2n5ki0KE&spfreload=1#t=4.441318

 

[MongGrel]

Yep, Cruz just took Wisconsin down.