Red Squirrel
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Wow that sucks, especially the fact that it was caused by human stupidity (the kids). Hopefully the dog will be ok, and that somehow it's cheaper. (personally I'd make them pay at least half). GL!
middlehead
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If they offered to pay half, I'd probably accept it. If they tried to get away, they'd get f'ed in the a.
PieIsAwesome
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I know I probably shouldn't, but what the hell.
Half the value of the dog or half the value of the surgery?
Freshgeardude
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lxskllr
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Damn, OP, sad. Forgive me for saying this, but that $7,000 price seems high by a minimum of $5,000, I hope you simply heard wrongly in all the upset and confusion.
It depends on how you look at it. If the dog has about 12yrs of life left, $7,000= $49 per month for the rest of the dog's life. That's not so outrageous for a good friend. I'm in the OP's boat though. I just don't have that kind of money, and couldn't get it if I wanted to :^(
Or else this is another bs Goosemaster thread. Sorry to say this if there's really a dog and it's really sick but I have doubts.Originally posted by: Perknose
Damn, OP, sad. Forgive me for saying this, but that $7,000 price seems high by a minimum of $5,000, I hope you simply heard wrongly in all the upset and confusion.
They are probably legally responsible for animal mistreatment, or whatever term applies. You should really try to work with a local vet as well as the guilty party to find a way to pay for things. I would like to think that most vets really do care about animals, but I know there are costs for them when it comes to major surgery. I would almost bet that you could get the cost worked down if it was paid for up front in cash. Either they will pitch in, or they will be sued, or something like that, I guess. Just my thoughts since I'm not an expert.
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Perknose
Damn, OP, sad. Forgive me for saying this, but that $7,000 price seems high by a minimum of $5,000, I hope you simply heard wrongly in all the upset and confusion.
It depends on how you look at it. If the dog has about 12yrs of life left, $7,000= $49 per month for the rest of the dog's life. That's not so outrageous for a good friend. I'm in the OP's boat though. I just don't have that kind of money, and couldn't get it if I wanted to :^(
What I'm saying is that there is no procedure for stomach bloat or poisoning that should cost even anywhere near $2,000 total that I can even imagine. Can't even imagine that much, but then I have few facts and didn't go to vet school, so . . .
lxskllr
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The OP said something about the stomach turning over. I'm not sure how that even happens, or if I misread, but that would involve some deep cutting. I have no idea how much vet surgery is though. $7,000 seems high, but it seems like I'm always surprised at the cost of things :^/
speg
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We just took our dog to the vet today (pneumonia?) and someone there was paying a $4,000 bill for his cat. It's insane how expensive it is... I'm pretty sure you could buy several high end cats for $4,000. Stories like these make me want to get insurance for my any future pets I may own.
Capt Caveman
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Perknose
Damn, OP, sad. Forgive me for saying this, but that $7,000 price seems high by a minimum of $5,000, I hope you simply heard wrongly in all the upset and confusion.
It depends on how you look at it. If the dog has about 12yrs of life left, $7,000= $49 per month for the rest of the dog's life. That's not so outrageous for a good friend. I'm in the OP's boat though. I just don't have that kind of money, and couldn't get it if I wanted to :^(
What I'm saying is that there is no procedure for stomach bloat or poisoning that should cost even anywhere near $2,000 total that I can even imagine. Can't even imagine that much, but then I have few facts and didn't go to vet school, so . . .
Do you know what bloat is? I just spent $2000 for two days of hospitalization for my dog for pneumonia and that's after already taking him to the emergency room a few days earlier with a temp of 105F. Xrays, sedation, blood tests, oxygen, anitbiotics, IV fluids, nebulizer, etc... No surgery but it still all adds up.
In regards to bloat, the stomach is flipped over and tangled with the intestines. If parts of the intestines have died, those dead ares will have to be removed and the stomach and intestines will be need to be opened up to remove any obstructions. This is major major surgery.
shiner
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guyver01
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Sorry Goose, but i'm having a hard time believing this story.
Gastric Torsion, as it is called, is extremely serious and a HUGE medical emergency.
Most dogs don't survive even with an emergency surgery which is required for them to live.
A Vet isn't going to wait for you to "make a decision" as the dog would be dead before you figured out your options.
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Well, I don't know what happened with the OP's dog, but I had a Great Dane in the 1980's.
One of the wonderful things about having a champion Dane is that people who owned or bred them came up to us all the time and told me, one by one, everything I ever needed to know about their care.
And one of those things was that Danes are prone to stomach torsion, wherein their rather long stomachs twist over, they bloat up, and can and will die if not treated. Because of that, I was hip to the signs, so that when it once happened, I knew and could see it happening extremely early on, and got him to the vet immediately.
I don't remember what she did exactly, but there was no surgery, she just manipulated it back and it cost me $50-60 or so. Even if surgery had been required, I imagine (but don't really know) that it would only have involved cutting through the skin and manipulating the stomach back, essentially untwisting it.
Again, I don't know, but I can't imagine that procedure costing more that $400 - 700 even these days.
$7,000 just seems way out of line. For the OP's sake (and his doggie's), I hope it is.
Edit: Ok, just read Capt and guyver's posts. My vet did say that I was very lucky to have caught my Dane's torsion so early. It was hardly noticeable, I was just pretty damn tuned in to the big guy.
I spent multi thousands at the end for his bone cancer.
Bogie (Bogart) and I having a head to head back in the day. His was bigger than mine.
Being sniffed by that other guy's lesser Dane.
Bogie and Rudy.
Freshgeardude
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Well, I don't know what happened with the OP's dog, but I had a Great Dane in the 1980's.
One of the wonderful things about having a champion Dane is that people who owned or bred them came up to us all the time and told me, one by one, everything I ever needed to know about their care.
And one of those things was that Danes are prone to stomach torsion, wherein their rather long stomachs twist over, they bloat up, and can and will die if not treated. Because of that, I was hip to the signs, so that when it once happened, I knew and could see it happening extremely early on, and got him to the vet immediately.
I don't remember what she did exactly, but there was no surgery, she just manipulated it back and it cost me $50-60 or so. Even if surgery had been required, I imagine (but don't really know) that it would only have involved cutting through the skin and manipulating the stomach back, essentially untwisting it.
Again, I don't know, but I can't imagine that procedure costing more that $400 - 700 even these days.
$7,000 just seems way out of line. For the OP's sake (and his doggie's), I hope it is.
Edit: Ok, just read Capt and guyver's posts. My vet did say that I was very lucky to have caught my Dane's torsion so early. It was hardly noticeable, I was just pretty damn tuned in to the big guy.
I spent multi thousands at the end for his bone cancer.
Bogie (Bogart) and I having a head to head back in the day. His was bigger than mine.
Being sniffed by that other guy's lesser Dane.
Bogie and Rudy.
i once watched this tv show on animal planet about great danes.
it said that they are the most prone for torsions. its bc they eat and then run around. it is suggested for owners to feed the dog and then wait 30 minutes at least before letting the dog run around
lxskllr
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Bogie (Bogart) and I having a head to head back in the day. His was bigger than mine.
Being sniffed by that other guy's lesser Dane.
Bogie and Rudy.
My in laws had a pair of Great Danes. I'm not really a dog person, so they just pissed me off :^D You'd walk in the house, they'd be so excited to see new people that they'd about knock you on your ass while they were running around :^D Irritating, but impressive dogs.
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Perknose
Bogie (Bogart) and I having a head to head back in the day. His was bigger than mine.
Being sniffed by that other guy's lesser Dane.
Bogie and Rudy.
My in laws had a pair of Great Danes. I'm not really a dog person, so they just pissed me off :^D You'd walk in the house, they'd be so excited to see new people that they'd about knock you on your ass while they were running around :^D Irritating, but impressive dogs.
Bogie was nothing like that. He was regal and extremely self-aware and self-posessed. I took him everywhere and on voice command, off the leash as well -- parties, public places, even got him into a bar or two in West Philly.
He was a gentleman of the very first order.
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