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alanwest09872

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Those are the things that you're supposed to tell us if you want us to tell you anything meaningful about your pain.

well im an idiot with poor grammer skills what does.

onset
any provocation and radiation stand for. the other ones are simple to answer
 

edro

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The point in weight training is to totally exhaust your muscles.
This causes micro damage to them, which causes them to grow.

I have always heard you should work a muscle group out to exhaustion once a week.
Twice a week if you are a weight training monster.

If you are only working with the bar (standard=45lbs), you should do as many as you possibly can, then rest 2-3min. Repeat 4 times.

BTW, if you are serious about lifting weights, you need to do other exercises than just bench press.
 

stargazr

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I was not offerened any surgical options. I did however pay for disc decompression surgery. It cost 5k and really helped out. As for the nerve stufff. I have no idea all I know is I have 4 hernated disk. I dont know much more then that. And yes leaning forward does releave the pain substantially.

You don't seem to know much about your problem, all due respect. I guess some people aren't interested and don't understand stuff doctors say. I'm the opposite, I like to get involved and learn all I can online and from talking with others with a similar problem to get a better understanding of my problems and possible alternatives; what to talk to the doctors about. No one cares more about your health than you.

If this was an accident, where you covered by any insurance? Why did you have to pay for disc decompression?

Did you ever have a real orthopedic surgeon evaluate you and your MRI or whatever studies you had? It should have been explained to you what is damaged and what can be fixed, what cannot, risks with surgeries etc

It just seems like you should have been given options, or a reason why there are no options.
 

alanwest09872

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You don't seem to know much about your problem, all due respect. I guess some people aren't interested and don't understand stuff doctors say. I'm the opposite, I like to get involved and learn all I can online and from talking with others with a similar problem to get a better understanding of my problems and possible alternatives; what to talk to the doctors about. No one cares more about your health than you.

If this was an accident, where you covered by any insurance? Why did you have to pay for disc decompression?

Did you ever have a real orthopedic surgeon evaluate you and your MRI or whatever studies you had? It should have been explained to you what is damaged and what can be fixed, what cannot, risks with surgeries etc

It just seems like you should have been given options, or a reason why there are no options.

Disc decompression surgery isnt covered by workmens comp.
It was all explained to me but they used all that doctor mombojombo talk. I dont understand any of this. Im not a doctor. All though i have always wanted to be one lol.
 

Alone

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Go to a sports doctor. Fuck, I mean, this is your spine. Kind of a pretty big deal, might want to have someone take a look at that.
 

CPA

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What actually happened to me was a fellow coworker was kidding around and tripped me. I fell backwords onto a metal spike it pierced my back and ended up hernated 4 disk. It bleed like a bitch I thought I was going to die. The metal spike was about 4 inches long. It was from are old picker system that was supposed to be taken out but never was. They were supposed to shave it down but they never did. Even after my accident they still didnt get rid of it. I used to manage a circuit city store. I was luckie because I was making 50-60k a year. So the settlement I got was quite substantial.

Damn dude, that made me wince. That coworker is an asshat.
 

CPA

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Disc decompression surgery isnt covered by workmens comp.
It was all explained to me but they used all that doctor mombojombo talk. I dont understand any of this. Im not a doctor. All though i have always wanted to be one lol.

Have you spoken with a lawyer? If they had some 4" spike coming out of the floor that shouldn't be there, then you have cause for civil action.
 

BoomerD

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Have you spoken with a lawyer? If they had some 4" spike coming out of the floor that shouldn't be there, then you have cause for civil action.

Probably so, but he said this happened when he was working for Circuit City. Since they folded, there's no one left to sue...and he also mentioned that he got a sizeable settlement, so his rights to sue are most likely already signed away.

NORMALLY, work comp is supposed to help the injured worker return as close to his pre-injury status as possible...or compensate him for the loss of earning potential.
My docs have told me that surgery won't "fix" me, and to learn to live on pain meds...<shrug> There's no "returning to pre-injury condition" for me either, so eventually, I should get a sizeable settlement for this injury.

I'm very surprised that his doctors said they couldn't/wouldn't do the disk decompression surgery under his work comp...unless it was determined that the cause was something other than the work injury. He SHOULD HAVE gotten a lawyer immediately after the injury. (first, go to the doctor, second, find a GOOD work comp lawyer to help protect your rights.)
 

CPA

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Probably so, but he said this happened when he was working for Circuit City. Since they folded, there's no one left to sue...and he also mentioned that he got a sizeable settlement, so his rights to sue are most likely already signed away.

NORMALLY, work comp is supposed to help the injured worker return as close to his pre-injury status as possible...or compensate him for the loss of earning potential.
My docs have told me that surgery won't "fix" me, and to learn to live on pain meds...<shrug> There's no "returning to pre-injury condition" for me either, so eventually, I should get a sizeable settlement for this injury.

I'm very surprised that his doctors said they couldn't/wouldn't do the disk decompression surgery under his work comp...unless it was determined that the cause was something other than the work injury. He SHOULD HAVE gotten a lawyer immediately after the injury. (first, go to the doctor, second, find a GOOD work comp lawyer to help protect your rights.)

Good points, I had forgotten CC went the way of the dinosaur. Duh.
 

LookBehindYou

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I'm having trouble figuring out how you are disabled. Just because you cannot walk without pain doesnt mean you should qualify for disability. You should be able to find other meaningful work, you make no mention of not being able to stand or sit and you can type 40 or 80 words a minute. No offense dude, but I see people all day everyday trying to scam the system and draw disability for no real reason.
 

stargazr

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Ive see doctors but they dont know anything about weight lifting.

So you're ok with the pain from walking but you want to know why you can lift weights without pain?

Maybe because it doesn't aggravate your injury. You really should speak to a doctor.
 

alanwest09872

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I'm having trouble figuring out how you are disabled. Just because you cannot walk without pain doesnt mean you should qualify for disability. You should be able to find other meaningful work, you make no mention of not being able to stand or sit and you can type 40 or 80 words a minute. No offense dude, but I see people all day everyday trying to scam the system and draw disability for no real reason.

Trust me I am not scamming anyone. It hurts to sit for to long 20+ minutes. and standing is the same as walking. the only way i can get rid of the pain is to bend over or lie down. I was on such heavy opiods for my back i got hardcore addicted to them now im tying to get off of them but it isnt easy. I was on Morphine for about 3 years. On the morphine i was able to do things to a better extent but now that im off of it and on tramadol it doesnt help the pain anywhere near what it used to be.



As for seeing a doctor I did that. He sasid if lifting weights doesnt aggrovate my injury then he suggest that I do it. As for an actual program thats not him hes not a weight lifting expert. Thats why I am hear asking questions finding answers.

All the responses are much appreciated
 

alanwest09872

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Have you spoken with a lawyer? If they had some 4" spike coming out of the floor that shouldn't be there, then you have cause for civil action.

In new york you cant sue your employer. You can only go on work mens comp. The only time you can sue is if workmens comp stops paying you.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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onset
any provocation and radiation stand for. the other ones are simple to answer
Onset is basically when it started. Obviously you've told us that already. Radiation is where the pain is. Does it feel just under the skin, or in the bone? Is it just in one place, or does it move? If so, where, and under what circumstances? Provocation/palliation are things that make it worse/better.
 

alanwest09872

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Ok the pain is all in my lower left hand side. l4or l5 I think. The pain doesnt move and it feels like its all the way down to the bone. Its hardcore pain. Like someone is stabbing me over and over again. It really hurts. I dont have a high thresshold of pain either. I really wish I did or I wish there was a way to build up the threshold so it doesnt hurt as bad
 

LookBehindYou

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Trust me I am not scamming anyone. It hurts to sit for to long 20+ minutes. and standing is the same as walking. the only way i can get rid of the pain is to bend over or lie down. I was on such heavy opiods for my back i got hardcore addicted to them now im tying to get off of them but it isnt easy. I was on Morphine for about 3 years. On the morphine i was able to do things to a better extent but now that im off of it and on tramadol it doesnt help the pain anywhere near what it used to be.



As for seeing a doctor I did that. He sasid if lifting weights doesnt aggrovate my injury then he suggest that I do it. As for an actual program thats not him hes not a weight lifting expert. Thats why I am hear asking questions finding answers.

All the responses are much appreciated


My bad then, at first you only mentioned the walking part and I couldnt figure out how that made you able to qualify for disability. But, if you can't sit either, that definitely precludes you from a lot. My apologies.
 

alanwest09872

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no reason to apologies you are more then welcome to your opinion and to question if I am disabled since your helping to pay for it.

It sucks though I have an awesome pc but cant even play pc games on it.
 

Smoove910

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It was all explained to me but they used all that doctor mombojombo talk. I dont understand any of this. Im not a doctor.

So what makes you think us talking all 'weight-lifter stuff' is going to be any different? You aren't an athlete, so why would you understand? Sounds like you aren't telling the whole story of your diagnosis, or the doctor you went to see is an ass. I would get your back looked at by a specialist and corrected before attempting any weight training. If the specialist you see doesn't offer any help, go find another. Repeat until you find one you like and is willing to fix you up. In the long run you may do more damage than good doing any sort of weight training right now.
 

alanwest09872

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The doctor said I could weight lift if it doesnt agitate the injury.

As for weight training is a bit easier to understand then long ass complicated doctor talk. Like I know what scoliosis is and I have the beginning of that.
 
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What the...? Go see a physical therapy and get on a rehab program. You should've done that by default, especially with such extensive disc surgery. Talk to your orthopedist, say you wanna go to PT, and GO. Honestly, that should've been done before you found any of this to be a problem.