Does Hillary honestly have a shot?

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

LOL

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

Ironic. You think Jesus would own a gun?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

Ironic. You think Jesus would own a gun?

Absolutely.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

Ironic. You think Jesus would own a gun?

Absolutely.

Nice try, but He didn't own those, they were on loan from Peter.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

Ironic. You think Jesus would own a gun?

Absolutely.

Nice try, but He didn't own those, they were on loan from Peter.

Ah, I don't know much about the Bible. I'm sure a gun would have helped him kill that giant or whatever though.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

Ironic. You think Jesus would own a gun?

Absolutely.

Nice try, but He didn't own those, they were on loan from Peter.

Ah, I don't know much about the Bible. I'm sure a gun would have helped him kill that giant or whatever though.

Wow, you really don't know the bible. You're thinking of King Jacob who threw his multicolored coat over a giant fish that tried to swallow him. I don't think a gun would have helped him though.

200th post! Yay! and what a post it was.

 

[1EZduzit]

I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was, of course, just joking. I wouldn't vote for either of them because they're gun grabbers, plain and simple.

do you honestly think anyone is going to take your guns?

the NRA owns washington... politicians will do what they've always done: pay lip service to their base while doing nothing in actuality about it. see also: Bush on gay marriage, family values, etc.

I think they want to take my guns, yes. Obama is on record saying that no one should own a semi-automatic weapon for any reason. And Hillary is basically the anti-christ as far as gun owners are concerned. She probably wanted to sit on top of the APC when it was ramming the Branch Davidian compound.

It starts with a renewed assault weapon ban. So called "common sense" gun control. :roll:

Ironic. You think Jesus would own a gun?

Absolutely.

Nice try, but He didn't own those, they were on loan from Peter.

Ah, I don't know much about the Bible. I'm sure a gun would have helped him kill that giant or whatever though.

Wow, you really don't know the bible. You're thinking of King Jacob who threw his multicolored coat over a giant fish that tried to swallow him. I don't think a gun would have helped him though.

200th post! Yay! and what a post it was.

My Bible is missing a lot. You see I cut out a space to hide a Keltec P3AT in it, so it's missing a Keltec sized chunk of just about every page.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

Or because wartime presidents just don't lose elections, though Bush in 04 won by the narrowest margin of any wartime president. But I agree, if FrankenKerry had a personality, he might've swung the necessary undecideds in his favor.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

 

[daveshel]

I don't think she is electable. Unfortunately, she has a good shot at the nomination.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

That Dog Don't Hunt video

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

Well.... they're assault rifles. That's what they are. They're made to assault positions, take territory and kill people. I'm not afraid to say it that's what they are, and that's why I have them.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

Well.... they're assault rifles. That's what they are. They're made to assault positions, take territory and kill people. I'm not afraid to say it that's what they are, and that's why I have them.

Ah, truth! Well let the pro gun lobby stand up and say that in congress damnit! We've had enough of hearing about how people want to use them for hunting pheasants or whatever people hunt these days.

 

[bamacre]

I don't know who I see as more disgusting, those who wouldn't vote for Hillary just because she's a woman, or those who will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman.

In reality, sure she has a shot. But I think if she campaigns in an ugly way toward Obama, it will actually hurt her compaign. Not likely to happen though, as the Clintons are very smart, and very sneaky.

But as always, it's going to come down to what the Independents think, who they will vote for. The far left and far right won't cross their lines.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

Well.... they're assault rifles. That's what they are. They're made to assault positions, take territory and kill people. I'm not afraid to say it that's what they are, and that's why I have them.

Ah, truth! Well let the pro gun lobby stand up and say that in congress damnit! We've had enough of hearing about how people want to use them for hunting pheasants or whatever people hunt these days.

I'm really not too concerned about them being taken away. I think elections past have proven that's just not a politically viable option.

Plus it's not realistically viable either. There are an estimated 80 million assault weapons in the hands of the American citizens. Who are they gonna send to collect them? Men with guns? We are the men with guns.

I'm wanting someone who's going to push back AGAINST gun control. Give us nation wide reciprocity for our concealed handgun licenses. Reopen our borders to imported assault weapons. That kind of stuff.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

Well.... they're assault rifles. That's what they are. They're made to assault positions, take territory and kill people. I'm not afraid to say it that's what they are, and that's why I have them.

Ah, truth! Well let the pro gun lobby stand up and say that in congress damnit! We've had enough of hearing about how people want to use them for hunting pheasants or whatever people hunt these days.

I'm really not too concerned about them being taken away. I think elections past have proven that's just not a politically viable option.

Plus it's not realistically viable either. There are an estimated 80 million assault weapons in the hands of the American citizens. Who are they gonna send to collect them? Men with guns? We are the men with guns.

I'm wanting someone who's going to push back AGAINST gun control. Give us nation wide reciprocity for our concealed handgun licenses. Reopen our borders to imported assault weapons. That kind of stuff.

See, the conservatives positions will contradict their real goals here. The illegal aliens will be able to acquire guns since they are so widely available, making it much harder to deport them. In other issues, their women who get pregnant will not be able to seek abortions from doctors if Roe is overturned leading to a larger population of anchor babies.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: daveshel
I don't think she is electable. Unfortunately, she has a good shot at the nomination.

So you are predicting a slam dunk win for a Republican President.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

Well.... they're assault rifles. That's what they are. They're made to assault positions, take territory and kill people. I'm not afraid to say it that's what they are, and that's why I have them.

Ah, truth! Well let the pro gun lobby stand up and say that in congress damnit! We've had enough of hearing about how people want to use them for hunting pheasants or whatever people hunt these days.

I'm really not too concerned about them being taken away. I think elections past have proven that's just not a politically viable option.

Plus it's not realistically viable either. There are an estimated 80 million assault weapons in the hands of the American citizens. Who are they gonna send to collect them? Men with guns? We are the men with guns.

I'm wanting someone who's going to push back AGAINST gun control. Give us nation wide reciprocity for our concealed handgun licenses. Reopen our borders to imported assault weapons. That kind of stuff.

See, the conservatives positions will contradict their real goals here. The illegal aliens will be able to acquire guns since they are so widely available, making it much harder to deport them. In other issues, their women who get pregnant will not be able to seek abortions from doctors if Roe is overturned leading to a larger population of anchor babies.

Illegal aliens are never going to be deported. That's a non-issue. I don't mind them having guns. THey can't have anything bigger than a .38 special in Mexico. I have no problem with widespread arms proliferation. I've always believed that laws forbidding felons from purchasing firearms are unconstitutional and wrong. *shrugs*

Firearms are the hallmark of a free nation.

 

[Red Dawn]

Does Hillary have a shot? Well if a corrupt polarizing numbskull like Bush can get elected President it only seems to reason that she can.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I think people's fear of gun control lost the D's the 2004 Presidential election.

No, it was because Kerry had the personality & charisma of a 2x4.

The smart democrats keep their mouths shut about gun control. The AWB of 1994 cost them 10 years of elections. Go read some of the hard core democratic message boards like democraticunderground.com. They hate gun control, because all it's ever done is cost them elections. They'd rather just let us have our assault weapons.

Considering how good the Reps are with rhetoric (Death Tax, Climate Change, etc) I'm surprised you guys ceded this one to the Dems. "Assault Weapons" sound mean. You people need to get on this. How about Home Defender Kits. Or maybe Patriot Sticks.

Well.... they're assault rifles. That's what they are. They're made to assault positions, take territory and kill people. I'm not afraid to say it that's what they are, and that's why I have them.

Ah, truth! Well let the pro gun lobby stand up and say that in congress damnit! We've had enough of hearing about how people want to use them for hunting pheasants or whatever people hunt these days.

I'm really not too concerned about them being taken away. I think elections past have proven that's just not a politically viable option.

Plus it's not realistically viable either. There are an estimated 80 million assault weapons in the hands of the American citizens. Who are they gonna send to collect them? Men with guns? We are the men with guns.

I'm wanting someone who's going to push back AGAINST gun control. Give us nation wide reciprocity for our concealed handgun licenses. Reopen our borders to imported assault weapons. That kind of stuff.

See, the conservatives positions will contradict their real goals here. The illegal aliens will be able to acquire guns since they are so widely available, making it much harder to deport them. In other issues, their women who get pregnant will not be able to seek abortions from doctors if Roe is overturned leading to a larger population of anchor babies.

Illegal aliens are never going to be deported. That's a non-issue. I don't mind them having guns. THey can't have anything bigger than a .38 special in Mexico. I have no problem with widespread arms proliferation. I've always believed that laws forbidding felons from purchasing firearms are unconstitutional and wrong. *shrugs*

Firearms are the hallmark of a free nation.

Well, then, let's get the hell out of Iraq! Mission Accomplished!

 

[vi edit]

And to answer the original question - No. I don't think Hillary has a legitimate shot and the D's are seriously compromising their chances at the presidency *again*.

In '04 they were in the drivers seat to run away with the election. But they put up a mumbling party puppet that appealed to no one.

Now they are in an even better strategical position and are putting up probably one of the most polarizing candidates they could muster. There's just too much that people can pick apart about Hilliary.

1) She's a Clinton. That sours a lot tastebuds.
2) She's a female. Let's face it, how many state and federal lawmakers are female? Answer: not many.
3) She's democrat.

Even with the open and secret backing she has, and the ace (Hubby) up the sleeve she can pull out at any time, I still think she has too much negative energy surrounding her to gain enough votes to pull it off.

I think she will win the battle (Nomination) but lose the war ('08 Election).