Does God hate homosexuality?

[I4AT]

That's like saying the Tooth Fairy hates plaque.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: zinfamous
NO. Jesus was totally gay.


whether or not you agree with that, you can read everything Jesus is ever reputed to say, in any version of the bible, and Jesus never hates on homosexuals. the only person that does is Paul.

Paul never knew Jesus. Paul isn't a real apostle (b/c Jesus was dead long before Paul even became a "Christian.") The biggest bigot of the Bible is further from Jesus than even a guy like Dawkins.

Mmm, but to disregard Paul you have to take on the canonization of Scripture and the methodology used to determine it (by such involved parties as Origen, for instance). An argument on that level becomes futile, in my opinion, because of our distance from the source.

If we were going to have to have the argument, you would have to take into account that Paul was accepted as an apostle and his teachings were validated by such first person sources as Peter, James and John, apostles who were with Jesus directly. They did not speak out against his teaching, and when and where they did it was both documented and you can follow the arguments and ultimate resolutions.

The safest argument is to argue the fallability of scripture; if you disagree with the premise that scripture is infallible it doesn't matter what you think of Jesus or Paul or anyone. If you consider scripture as infallible then you must make the argument against the inclusion of Paul's writings in scripture. Do you consider scripture to be infallible?

Paul was a psycho whackjob.


does that make you happy?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: I4AT
That's like saying the Tooth Fairy hates plaque.

I laughed, but then realized you probably didn't mean what you said.


plaque = lost teeth

lost teeth = happy tooth fairy.

tooth fairy exists b/c of plaque.



......

so Jesus likes teh Fairies?

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: RoloMather

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
He hates the sin, which is homosexuality, but does not hate the homos as they are still his people and he loves us all regardless of being sinners.

So how come there are protests by certain religious groups? What is their motivation?

cuz they're retards and make the rest of the christians look bad.

Originally posted by: Fayd
According to the old testament, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for the sin of homosexuality. (there's more to this, a whole story about the only survivors of Sodom being told to leave by angels who had descended to earth to tell them. the residents of sodom decide they want to rape the angels, the owner of the house offers his daughters to the mob, but the mob refuses. (refuses to rape some girls versus raping some dudes...yeah...) and so on.)

according to the new testament, god loves everybody.

there ends my overly simplified summary of Christianity's views on homosexuality.

personally i think you should try harder on flamebaiting.

In the old testament, Sodom and Gemorrag were wiped out cuz they represented every sin God has mentioned, so homosexuality was never explicitly singled out.

Originally posted by: RoloMather
Does He hate homosexuality?

Yet he loves the homosexuals?

How come certain religious people and groups don't like gays? Certainly these people and groups do exist.

I'm confused as to why there isn't a uniform standard when the Bible haven't changed in a long time.

The bible has never changed. Only the people and society around it. But to answer your OP, everyone is essentially guilty regardless of whether or not they are homosexual because all sins are in essence equal according to God, so the last time I lied, coveted that ferrari, etc.. is enough to render me as guity as the next guy. It's not the sin, its more the heart of the matter, as in, how man has turned away from God.

to end the preaching, I'll just say that the bible says man can redeem himself simply by turning back to God. Yeah, thats about it. Don't listen to the religious extremists, don't listen to the hateful words of some Atheists, what I've said is Christianity in a nutshell.

 

[irishScott]

Oh for crying out loud who gives a fuck? And why?

 

[miketheidiot]

god also hates pork and crustaceans and flightless birds.

repent, sinners

 

[sandorski]

Religious people Hate Gays. God doesn't exist.

Next question?

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: thepd7


I don't know about "Religious" people, but anyone seeking Christ loves homosexuals as much as they love themself, their family, their best friends.

lol yeah right, hollow words. Your god knows you're lying.

 

[seemingly random]

"christian god"? I thought everybody is supposed to believe there's only one god.

Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe there's a council of god's. Which one is top god? Does it rotate? or is it a popularity contest? How are disagreements settled? Is this why the weather is so crazy sometimes?

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: seemingly random
"christian god"? I thought everybody is supposed to believe there's only one god.

Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe there's a council of god's. Which one is top god? Does it rotate? or is it a popularity contest? How are disagreements settled? Is this why the weather is so crazy sometimes?

Council of Gods

 

[AstroManLuca]

I think one thing that tends to confuse and anger non-religious people like me is that certain religious people like to say things about how sinners are damned/going to hell for their sins. To a devout Christian who believes in sin as determining your fate in the afterlife, this is simply a statement of fact, used as a well-intentioned warning to nonbelievers. But to people like me, it's more of an insult. It's like saying "you're a bad person" or "you deserve eternal suffering."

I don't give a crap about sin or heaven or hell, because I don't believe in any of it. Doesn't matter to me if someone thinks I'm going to hell. But in many cases they equate morality and religion so completely that they imply you're a bad person (or rather, incapable of being a good person) if you have no religion. It's rude and mean-spirited. I just hate it when people get that judgmental.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
double post.

Tiem warp saved 😉

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Fayd
According to the old testament, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for the sin of homosexuality. (there's more to this, a whole story about the only survivors of Sodom being told to leave by angels who had descended to earth to tell them. the residents of sodom decide they want to rape the angels, the owner of the house offers his daughters to the mob, but the mob refuses. (refuses to rape some girls versus raping some dudes...yeah...) and so on.)

according to the new testament, god loves everybody.

there ends my overly simplified summary of Christianity's views on homosexuality.

personally i think you should try harder on flamebaiting.

Can you even rape an angel? I didn't think they had genitals, what with them not being human...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
God hates savoyboys second account.

lol

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: SandEagle
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
:laugh:

FUCK YEAH, because a story that involves a snake convincing a nude chick to give her hippie boyfriend (no job, no tie, no grooming) an apple, which then enrages their landlord and triggers the "no apple" clause in their lease, so he evicts them -- no 30 day notice or nuttin' -- is what I base my entire view of contemporary life on, too. 😛

EPIC

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: I4AT
That's like saying the Tooth Fairy hates plaque.

I laughed, but then realized you probably didn't mean what you said.


plaque = lost teeth

lost teeth = happy tooth fairy.

tooth fairy exists b/c of plaque.



......

so Jesus likes teh Fairies?

*WOOSH*

He meant that the tooth fairy is a fictitious creature incapable of hate...

(I think).

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Howard
Shut the fuck up.

 

[Billyzeke]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Biblical literalist answer:

There are several places in the old and new testament that very straightforwardly declare the behavior of homosexuality to be abhorrent to God. It is very clearly cast as a behavior in those contexts, not as a trait that is inherent to an individual. Biblical literalists consider homosexual behavior to be a choice within the control of the individual and do not see any problem or contradiction with both condemning it and offering help in recovering and avoiding it.

Does He hate homosexuality?

Yet he loves the homosexuals?

How come certain religious people and groups don't like gays? Certainly these people and groups do exist.

I'm confused as to why there isn't a uniform standard when the Bible haven't changed in a long time.

In regards to your question about why Christians behave with hate towards those that they say God instructs them to love, I can only answer that all people, religious and non-religious, do not always act as they profess to believe. Prejudice, fear and hatred are inherent traits in human beings and will always interfere with their ability to adhere to what they consider themselves to believe.

Well said. :thumbsup:

 

[GTaudiophile]

I think God loves all of His "children" equally. After all, God sent His only Son to die for everyone, even those who had Him killed.

I think God also wants all of His children to have a relationship with Him and He is...saddened...disappointed...by anyone/anything/any sin/any form of lust that interferes with people having that relationship with Him.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: Fayd
According to the old testament, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for the sin of homosexuality. (there's more to this, a whole story about the only survivors of Sodom being told to leave by angels who had descended to earth to tell them. the residents of sodom decide they want to rape the angels, the owner of the house offers his daughters to the mob, but the mob refuses. (refuses to rape some girls versus raping some dudes...yeah...) and so on.)

according to the new testament, god loves everybody.

there ends my overly simplified summary of Christianity's views on homosexuality.

personally i think you should try harder on flamebaiting.

Can you even rape an angel? I didn't think they had genitals, what with them not being human...

He's wrong about the rape. They showed up asking him to present his visitors so that they could all kinda share in sexual intercourse with them; he offered his daughters instead and they refused (probably "been there, done that; give us something new" kinda attitude). It seems that the whole town was kind of an open orgy of sorts and it was assumed that any visitors were there to partake.

As for angels having genitals, they are always described as male and it describes angel/human hybrids with six fingers from "fallen" angels... I believe the 10' Goliath was supposed to be one.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: I4AT
That's like saying the Tooth Fairy hates plaque.

I laughed, but then realized you probably didn't mean what you said.


plaque = lost teeth

lost teeth = happy tooth fairy.

tooth fairy exists b/c of plaque.



......

so Jesus likes teh Fairies?

The Tooth Fairy couldn't subsist on baby teeth alone? Anyone losing adult teeth better not be putting them under their pillow... that's like feeding the bears.

 

[FeuerFrei]

Originally posted by: RoloMather

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
He hates the sin, which is homosexuality, but does not hate the homos as they are still his people and he loves us all regardless of being sinners.

So how come there are protests by certain religious groups? What is their motivation?

Depends on the group. Those fringe groups that hold the signs saying "God hates fags" speak only for themselves and are totally opposite God's word in the Bible. They do incalculable harm for the cause of Christ. I guess their motivation is to be sensational and follow the will of their misguided leader instead of looking into the Bible and finding out how God really feels.

Godly Christians are out to protest any attempt to normalize or legitimize homosexuality in society. Like the joke that is homo "marriage." As if two men or women can actually form the basis for a family. Any unfortunate kids they raise will have no idea how to relate to the opposite sex nor know how they should function as a father/mother when the time comes. The goal is to avoid any societal sanction of such folly.

It's not merely clinging to tradition. It's about functional versus dysfunctional, natural versus unnatural, compatible versus incompatible, authentic versus a sham, and right versus wrong. Men and women were designed for each other. Learn it, live it, love it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei

Originally posted by: RoloMather

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
He hates the sin, which is homosexuality, but does not hate the homos as they are still his people and he loves us all regardless of being sinners.

So how come there are protests by certain religious groups? What is their motivation?

Depends on the group. Those fringe groups that hold the signs saying "God hates fags" speak only for themselves and are totally opposite God's word in the Bible. They do incalculable harm for the cause of Christ. I guess their motivation is to be sensational and follow the will of their misguided leader instead of looking into the Bible and finding out how God really feels.

Godly Christians are out to protest any attempt to normalize or legitimize homosexuality in society. Like the joke that is homo "marriage." As if two men or women can actually form the basis for a family. Any unfortunate kids they raise will have no idea how to relate to the opposite sex nor know how they should function as a father/mother when the time comes. The goal is to avoid any societal sanction of such folly.

It's not merely clinging to tradition. It's about functional versus dysfunctional, natural versus unnatural, compatible versus incompatible, authentic versus a sham, and right versus wrong. Men and women were designed for each other. Learn it, live it, love it.

fail. You don't even Know what "Natural" is, obviously. It is merely assumed to match your World View. However, it simply does not match.

 

[glenn beck]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I think God loves all of His "children" equally. After all, God sent His only Son to die for everyone, even those who had Him killed.

I think God also wants all of His children to have a relationship with Him and He is...saddened...disappointed...by anyone/anything/any sin/any form of lust that interferes with people having that relationship with Him.

/post

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: RoloMather
Does He hate homosexuality?

Yet he loves the homosexuals?

How come certain religious people and groups don't like gays? Certainly these people and groups do exist.

I'm confused as to why there isn't a uniform standard when the Bible haven't changed in a long time.

Because they are a bunch of hypocrites.

There isn't a uniform standard because religion is an institution created by man to control people. Honestly, I don't think they gave it much thought until recently.