Does anyone care if MAGAts don't vaccinate?

[Viper1j]

Put your Faith in Jesus! Liberate Michigan! Hail Trump! Let the Rona flow through you!

Let them roll with Charlie.

 

[abj13]

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

500,000+ dead Americans despite shutting down many public gather spots
2.5+ million humans across the world despite many shutdowns.

Not shutting down would have resulted in a multitude higher number of preventable deaths in the US and across the world. COVID-19 would have resulted in many hospitals becoming over run with cases, and would have toppled the medical system, pushing the case-mortality rate even higher.

But apparently you care about $$$ instead of human lives?

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

How are you going to do that in the midst of a pandemic?

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

15,000+ received the Moderna Vaccine in the late summer/fall. Pfizer enrolled 21,000+. There was no concerns of a long-term serious adverse event associated with the vaccines, and those cohorts continue to be followed now over 180 days later. Millions of dosages have been administered in the past 90 days. People aren't dropping dead from the vaccine. Those two vaccines have been researched, quite extensively, by many metrics.

 

[hal2kilo]

I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

Cool, right now we have an emergency.

 

[feralkid]

I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

Jesus wept.

 

[sandorski]

Forced vaccinations for a 99.8% survival rate ? Vaccines for children who are virtually unaffected by covid with almost no deaths ? I don't think it's crazy to see why some people aren't down with all of this and it's got nothing to do with Trump.

Do yu want perpetual or Regular Lockdowns?

 

[Viper1j]

Forced vaccinations for a 99.8% survival rate ? Vaccines for children who are virtually unaffected by covid with almost no deaths ? I don't think it's crazy to see why some people aren't down with all of this and it's got nothing to do with Trump.

Talk to any "long haulers" lately?

How are they doing?

 

[Annisman*]

500,000+ dead Americans despite shutting down many public gather spots
2.5+ million humans across the world despite many shutdowns.

Not shutting down would have resulted in a multitude higher number of preventable deaths in the US and across the world. COVID-19 would have resulted in many hospitals becoming over run with cases, and would have toppled the medical system, pushing the case-mortality rate even higher.

But apparently you care about $$$ instead of human lives?



How are you going to do that in the midst of a pandemic?




15,000+ received the Moderna Vaccine in the late summer/fall. Pfizer enrolled 21,000+. There was no concerns of a long-term serious adverse event associated with the vaccines, and those cohorts continue to be followed now over 180 days later. Millions of dosages have been administered in the past 90 days. People aren't dropping dead from the vaccine. Those two vaccines have been researched, quite extensively, by many metrics.

Do yu want perpetual or Regular Lockdowns?

I want none, have you looked around ? What is it stopping?

 

[Annisman*]

500,000+ dead Americans despite shutting down many public gather spots
2.5+ million humans across the world despite many shutdowns.

Not shutting down would have resulted in a multitude higher number of preventable deaths in the US and across the world. COVID-19 would have resulted in many hospitals becoming over run with cases, and would have toppled the medical system, pushing the case-mortality rate even higher.

But apparently you care about $$$ instead of human lives?



How are you going to do that in the midst of a pandemic?




15,000+ received the Moderna Vaccine in the late summer/fall. Pfizer enrolled 21,000+. There was no concerns of a long-term serious adverse event associated with the vaccines, and those cohorts continue to be followed now over 180 days later. Millions of dosages have been administered in the past 90 days. People aren't dropping dead from the vaccine. Those two vaccines have been researched, quite extensively, by many metrics.

I changed my diet and got healthier, that's how I did it, which part of the pandemic would stop anybody else from doing the same ?

 

[Annisman*]

Cool, right now we have an emergency.

Totally agree. It's been almost a year long emergency now and I wish we would have done more than tried to hide and wait for a rushed vaccine.

 

[nOOky]

You might want to check your sarcasm meter

Sometimes I figure an /s is so blatant it's not needed. Guess not lol

 

[Viper1j]

I changed my diet and got healthier, that's how I did it, which part of the pandemic would stop anybody else from doing the same ?

Cool beans!

You're hired. You get to go across the country, and get all the fat assholes off the couches, and out of the lazy boys, and don't forget to remove the beers from their hands before you send them on the 5K runs. 🙄

 

[abj13]

I want none, have you looked around ? What is it stopping?

It stopped many deaths. Or do you not believe the science behind social distancing and mask wearing? Is that what you are trying to say? Please clarify.

I changed my diet and got healthier, that's how I did it, which part of the pandemic would stop anybody else from doing the same ?

Can you explain the science to all of us how somebody with chronic lung disease can undo his/her comorbidity by "changing their diet" and "getting healthier?"

Can you explain the science to all of us how somebody with congestive heart failure can undo his/her comorbidity by "changing their diet" and "getting healthier?"

Can you explain the science to all of us how somebody with cancer, bone marrow transplant, or a solid organ transplant can undo his/her comorbidity by "changing their diet" and "getting healthier?"

Totally agree. It's been almost a year long emergency now and I wish we would have done more than tried to hide and wait for a rushed vaccine.

Please define how the vaccine(s) are rushed.

 

[weblooker2021]

I am not Trump supporter(I can't stand him), I didn't vote for Trump, I do not watch Foxnews( i lie, i watch it for few minutes just to see what lie they say), however i have decided i will not be getting this vaccination anytime soon. Main reason is a)We do not feel that we are in high risk group as me and my wife are both in late 30's, we do not smoke, do not drink, get plenty of exercise, not overweight etc. We're likely to wait 2-3 years before getting it a we want to see longer impact of this vaccine.

 

[K1052]

I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

All that's missing is HCQ and this would be a bingo.

Lol at let's make Americans healthier because that should be easier than the other available mitigations. What planet is this from?

 

[K1052]

I am not Trump supporter(I can't stand him), I didn't vote for Trump, I do not watch Foxnews( i lie, i watch it for few minutes just to see what lie they say), however i have decided i will not be getting this vaccination anytime soon. Main reason is a)We do not feel that we are in high risk group as me and my wife are both in late 30's, we do not smoke, do not drink, get plenty of exercise, not overweight etc. We're likely to wait 2-3 years before getting it a we want to see longer impact of this vaccine.

Enumerate your specific concerns.

 

[Annisman*]

Cool beans!

You're hired. You get to go across the country, and get all the fat assholes off the couches, and out of the lazy boys, and don't forget to remove the beers from their hands before you send them on the 5K runs. 🙄

No exercise necessary, diet change is the important part.

I agree it wouldn't be easy - as you are alluding to. It's much easier to hope our masks are doing something while we wait for a vaccine and continue to drink our sodas. But why can't we talk about it more ? Why do we dismiss it so easily ?

It's been a year since this began and even minor changes to improve our health would have made large changes by now.

 

[sandorski]

I want none, have you looked around ? What is it stopping?

In other Countries it stopped the disaster the US had.

 

[Annisman*]

It stopped many deaths. Or do you not believe the science behind social distancing and mask wearing? Is that what you are trying to say? Please clarify.



Can you explain the science to all of us how somebody with chronic lung disease can undo his/her comorbidity by "changing their diet" and "getting healthier?"

Can you explain the science to all of us how somebody with congestive heart failure can undo his/her comorbidity by "changing their diet" and "getting healthier?"

Can you explain the science to all of us how somebody with cancer, bone marrow transplant, or a solid organ transplant can undo his/her comorbidity by "changing their diet" and "getting healthier?"



Please define how the vaccine(s) are rushed.

I said do our best to remove co-morbidities that we can control, let's have an honest conversation, I'm willing, are you ?

You may think I'm an idiot but I won't try to spin the things you post.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I am not Trump supporter(I can't stand him), I didn't vote for Trump, I do not watch Foxnews( i lie, i watch it for few minutes just to see what lie they say), however i have decided i will not be getting this vaccination anytime soon. Main reason is a)We do not feel that we are in high risk group as me and my wife are both in late 30's, we do not smoke, do not drink, get plenty of exercise, not overweight etc. We're likely to wait 2-3 years before getting it a we want to see longer impact of this vaccine.

Given your age and health, you'd be last in line anyway. But the virus affects everyone differently. So even though the odds might be in your favor, I personally wouldn't want to roll the dice

 

[abj13]

We're likely to wait 2-3 years before getting it a we want to see longer impact of this vaccine.

Just something to think about. What if suddenly it was found the mRNA COVID vaccines raised the IQ of every human who received it by 10 points? Would you still not get it?

Of course you're thinking, well that's not going to happen, what a stupid question. But remember this, there is the same amount of evidence that the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines (for example) raise your IQ by 10 points as there is that there is a risk of a longer term serious adverse event. That evidence? Zero. That doesn't mean we shouldn't monitor the vaccine recipients, but we do know there can be longterm consequences of COVID-19, even in those who don't end up in the ICU. We know the virus infects the heart. What if getting COVID-19, even asymptomatic, sets you up for a premature heart attack?

Things to think about when weighing the pros and cons.

 

[abj13]

I said do our best to remove co-morbidities that we can control, let's have an honest conversation, I'm willing, are you ?

You may think I'm an idiot but I won't try to spin the things you post.

Uh that's the point. Millions of people have co-morbidities that cannot be altered by simple "behavioral" changes like you suggest. This means millions of people are at risk for severe complications from COVID-19, providing further reinforcement of why social distancing and mask wearing is important. Suggesting that people do these things sure feels good, but isn't in touch with reality of the world around us.

The cumulative voice of your posts really suggest you haven't really thought through any of your statements. If you are wanting an "honest conversation," do you not believe the science behind social distancing and mask wearing? Can you please define how the vaccine(s) are rushed?

 

[Puffnstuff]

I don't want a magtard giving it to myself or any of my friends and family.

 

[weblooker2021]

Enumerate your specific concerns.

Normal vaccine /medicine etc takes between 5-10 years to come to market with study's being done. Yes i am aware that it's because of funding, finding volunteers etc, take Astrazenica for example it being suspended in Europe because of possible issue with it. Say that issue didn't present itself after 30 mil or so been vaccinated but after 2 years, it would be too little to late at that point. 99% it's like that all 3 vaccine that been authorized in US are fully safe but there is .01% that it's not and i refuse to put something in to my body that at this time i do not want. Let me put it another way, being i have a choice i decided not to get it. I am also not anti-vac as i got every single other vaccine that was required of me while i was attending school.

 

[Jhhnn]

I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

Bullshit. It's functionally impossible to protect nursing home populations because the staff goes home every day.

 

[weblooker2021]

Bullshit. It's functionally impossible to protect nursing home populations because the staff goes home every day.

That is not the reason why they been getting infected, it's because many of the nurses are traveling nurses. Meaning they visit multiple nursing homes during the day . If they just went home and came back, risk of infection would be a lot less.