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Does anyone care if MAGAts don't vaccinate?

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weblooker2021 said:
Last time i checked driving is a privilege, which means when you get your driver license you agree to certain rules such as not driving drunk. Freedom is a right not a privilege so drunk driving have nothing to do with Covid
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Curious on what you distinguish as rights, and privileges. Please elaborate.

So person X with Ebola, is free to just share the elevator with you? Because their body their choice right?
 
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Last time i checked driving is a privilege, which means when you get your driver license you agree to certain rules such as not driving drunk. Freedom is a right not a privilege so drunk driving have nothing to do with Covid
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There is no such agreement signed when you get a drivers license. Students are just educated on the rules of the road and informed of the penalties for violations.

BTW - If freedom is such a privilege why can't you buy beer in Texas on Sunday?

If freedom is such a privilege why can't women freely buy birth control in Texas without a plethora of paperwork.

Conservatives love to pick and choose their freedom. Until COVID they were against assisted suicide but post COVID, elderly people should sacrifice their lives for the economy.
 
Last time i checked driving is a privilege, which means when you get your driver license you agree to certain rules such as not driving drunk. Freedom is a right not a privilege so drunk driving have nothing to do with Covid
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Not your right to potentially kill people asshole.
No matter what you may think.

How about rules of being a human. Do no harm to your fellow man wherever possible.
You get to throw that away because of your perceived freedoms?
 
weblooker2021 said:
Last time i checked driving is a privilege, which means when you get your driver license you agree to certain rules such as not driving drunk. Freedom is a right not a privilege so drunk driving have nothing to do with Covid
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Hahaha. That makes zero sense and no wonder you dodged the hypothetical. You said:

"If someone dies as result of my decision, oh well that is life. Yes i know it seems very cold and it probably is but at the end of the day my body my choice. "

You clearly articulated that decisions have no consequences. Even if someone dies as a result of your decision, it doesn't matter. You believe "my body my choice." There's no statement of rights, privileges, or any other statement of your weak attempt to move the goal posts of your bad logic by semantics.

But there appears to be a greater issue. You clearly don't understand the laws regarding communicable diseases because they clearly exist and clearly demarcate that your body is not "your choice." Let's start here with the CDC"s summary or an excellent summary written in the New England Journal of Medicine.

So, please try again. Your logic clearly describes that you'd be ok with someone dying, including your own wife, as the result of the drunk driver's decision because it's his/her own body and choice. You said it, not me: "If someone dies as result of my decision, oh well that is life."
 
DaaQ said:
Sounds an awful lot like a Pro-Lifer trying in vain to use a Pro-Choice argument, and failing miserably.
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Yeah the people calling themselves Pro-life are not pro life. they wanna control American vaginas and thats about it. They're fine with killing and death in general. More hypocrisy from a group of people who use "god" to do their thinking for them.
 
weblooker2021 said:
Yes my choice might be a stupid one and as result of it might die or I might get seriously sick for the rest of my life. I am willing to take that chances and i am making decision not to take this vaccine knowing the risk i am taking by refusing vaccination. As for my exposure if i am asymptomatic, i do not care. I am not making this decision for anyone but myself. If someone dies as result of my decision, oh well that is life. Yes i know it seems very cold and it probably is but at the end of the day my body my choice.
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wow. so go fuck yourself you spiteful, ignorant, dangerous, inhuman piece of shit.

why do you think you have the right to kill people? why do you think this, you piece of shit?
 
Annisman* said:
I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim
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did you ever think that viruses don't care what you believe, and that it is also no longer 1918 and we literally don't have to just sit here and wait for 70million people to die so that you can simply be happy in your "belief"?

where the fuck do you get off, thinking your "fucking belief" is somehow superior to all the advances in knowledge, technology, modern medicine, that unapologetically demolish this bullshit nonsense belief that you have?

"Oh, but I Believe....!" Yeah, go fuck yourself. No one would be making policy on what illiterate freestaters "believe"

I think you'd feel more comfortable living somewhere like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

lol "Eat Vitamin D!" "Don't Trust BIG PHARMA! But eat these ....vitamin Pills! Because that's a real industry that's REALLY looking out for you!"

holy fuck, are you about to start pitching HerbaLife to us, you fucking joke?
 
Oh yeah its no coincidence that the anti-science crowd is also the same group of people trying to sell snake oil. Alex Jones is the worst one.
Its all part of their lifestyle of bullshit and gas-lighting to make a profit off the gullible masses.
The dickhead claiming vaccinations cause autism is also a seller of fake medicine.
 
DaaQ said:
Curious on what you distinguish as rights, and privileges. Please elaborate.

So person X with Ebola, is free to just share the elevator with you? Because their body their choice right?
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A right is something that is granted to us by the constitution, a privilege is given to us as a right by al law. There was a case actually i believe in NJ or NY where they try to keep someone that came from Ebola area in quarantine and judge denied it. Until and unless someone with ebola got symptoms and it can be shown that they are danger to others, they can't be forcefully quarantine against their will.

esquared said:
Last time i checked driving is a privilege, which means when you get your driver license you agree to certain rules such as not driving drunk. Freedom is a right not a privilege so drunk driving have nothing to do with Covid
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Not your right to potentially kill people asshole.
No matter what you may think.

How about rules of being a human. Do no harm to your fellow man wherever possible.
You get to throw that away because of your perceived freedoms?
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There are many immune compromise individuals, i guess you would be okay if city's order business shutdown every winter to keep those people from catching the flu and dying as result of it? In many states students are not required to take vaccine, schools must accept vaccine waiver be it on religious grounds and/or philosophical objection which can cause people to die. So yes like it or not but we do have a right to make a personal choice that can cause someone death.

edit:quotes are off, not sure why as i didn't edit them. If mod can fix it , it would be appreciated.
 
weblooker2021 said:
There was a case actually i believe in NJ or NY where they try to keep someone that came from Ebola area in quarantine and judge denied it. Until and unless someone with ebola got symptoms and it can be shown that they are danger to others, they can't be forcefully quarantine against their will.
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Perhaps before you continue to embarrass yourself in this thread, you should read the Supreme Court decision Compagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana Board of Health. Not only is your memory of the Ebola nurse wrong, the Supreme Court contradicts your claims about quarantines.

For somebody claiming to know about rights and privileges, your posts demonstrate how little you actually understand these concepts.
 
abj13 said:
Perhaps before you continue to embarrass yourself in this thread, you should read the Supreme Court decision Compagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana Board of Health. Not only is your memory of the Ebola nurse wrong, the Supreme Court contradicts your claims about quarantines.

For somebody claiming to know about rights and privileges, your posts demonstrate how little you actually understand these concepts.
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https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/31/health/us-ebola "
"Ebola update: Maine judge rejects quarantine for nurse Kaci Hickox"
 
weblooker2021 said:
but there is .01% that it's not
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If a 0.01% chance of a side effect from anything you put into your body concerns you, you then need to NEVER TAKE ANOTHER DRUG....EVER AGAIN. ANY TYPE....antibiotic, steroid, tylenol, aspirin, any drug. The side effect percentage in prescription drugs is well over 0.01%....for any drug. Consult a PDR.

So....avoid anything you can put into your body. Every damned thing you can ingest can cause a side effect, even if you've put it into your body many times previously.

Idiot.
 
weblooker2021 said:
That is not the reason why they been getting infected, it's because many of the nurses are traveling nurses. Meaning they visit multiple nursing homes during the day . If they just went home and came back, risk of infection would be a lot less.
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Goddamn are you stupid! Travelling nurses visit multiple homes each day.

What a crock of shit from an idiot.

Hint: I worked as a travelling RN. You work at an institution under contract, and only that institution. Such as, I signed a few 4-6 mo. contracts in FL working various ICU's. Only worked that ICU, only that hospital.

Same with nurses that contract nursing homes. Contract to that institution, only that institution.

Where the hell did you get the nonsense you spouted? Never mind....from the rest of your bullshit, it's not surprising you, again, don't know what the hell you're talking about.
 
weblooker2021 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/31/health/us-ebola "
"Ebola update: Maine judge rejects quarantine for nurse Kaci Hickox"
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Hahahaha. This is just embarrassing for you. Did you actually read the decision? Good grief. The judge enforced the recommended monitoring quarantine plan decided by the CDC. Maine was creating their own draconian rule that contradicted the CDC's recommendation for quarantine. At no point the judge ruled about the legality of quarantine, he actually enforced them.

Furthermore, the US District Court upheld the legality of quarantines from that very case.

Have you finally read the Supreme Court decision Compagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana Board of Health? Or are you going to try to pretend it doesn't exist?
 
THIS is sooo F-ing insane. Vaccines WORK!!!!! We eliminated Polio thru vaccines. We almost eliminated the measles using a vaccine. Remember that world threatening Zombie attack? Again.... vaccines saved us all. If Trumpie republicans had existed back in the 1930's, 1940's, and 1950's and the internet had also existed, we'd still be fighting Polio, and schools would be closing not because of Covid but because the measles. But no one has yet addressed the real pandemic running rapid throughout the country (America in particular). That is the yet to be diagnosed virus that affects republican brains. That yet to be diagnosed virus that affects the brains of republican men and women. That debilitating virus that turns god fearing Christian republicans into rump worshiping Trumpies. And into Covid deniers. And into mask deniers. What I want to know is.... when ware we to see a vaccine for THAT ???? America will survive the Covid, but most likely not the Trumpie brain virus.
 
I hope they wait to vaccinate until after I get mine, but I do hope they vaccinate eventually for herd immunity and reduced likelihood of new strains.
 
My magalicious parents believe that they've already had COVID and won't take a shot. I keep telling them if they catch it they will die which is akin to talking to a dead cockroach or water off a duck's back.
 
Annisman* said:
Hey if you're convinced lockdowns masks and vaccines was the right way to combat this you'll probably never understand the other side.
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Masks and social distancing was an excellent way to fight it and limit both lockdowns and the economical impact.

Instead, the other side offered no solutions. Their best was to let god figure it out. If you're not ready to die to the capitalist cult, you're a traitor.
 
zinfamous said:
did you ever think that viruses don't care what you believe, and that it is also no longer 1918 and we literally don't have to just sit here and wait for 70million people to die so that you can simply be happy in your "belief"?

where the fuck do you get off, thinking your "fucking belief" is somehow superior to all the advances in knowledge, technology, modern medicine, that unapologetically demolish this bullshit nonsense belief that you have?

"Oh, but I Believe....!" Yeah, go fuck yourself. No one would be making policy on what illiterate freestaters "believe"

I think you'd feel more comfortable living somewhere like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

lol "Eat Vitamin D!" "Don't Trust BIG PHARMA! But eat these ....vitamin Pills! Because that's a real industry that's REALLY looking out for you!"

holy fuck, are you about to start pitching HerbaLife to us, you fucking joke?
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In a perfect world, we could gather them up, and ship them off to an island somewhere. Like they used to do with leper colonies. That way, they can spend their days infecting and re-infecting each other.
 
Puffnstuff said:
My magalicious parents believe that they've already had COVID and won't take a shot. I keep telling them if they catch it they will die which is akin to talking to a dead cockroach or water off a duck's back.
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I'd also tell them that this isn't likely to be a one-and-done infection like chicken pox — there's a risk they could get it again, and natural immunity might not last more than several months.
 
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