Does anyone care if MAGAts don't vaccinate?

[JTsyo]

We don't need to force vaccines on people. They'll just have to continue lockdown until the cases counts drop to safe levels. If COVID ever picks back up they'll have to lockdown again. I think the convience of being vaccinated will be enough to get most to vaccinate.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

King MAGA has spoken, get your damn shot

Trump urges Americans to get Covid-19 vaccine: 'I would recommend it'

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday urged Americans to get vaccinated to help curb the Covid-19 pandemic, calling it "safe" and "something that works."

www.cnn.com

 

[thilanliyan]

I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

So you would be okay with putting loved ones (even ones below the "nursing home age") at risk of getting the virus, by not socially distancing, wearing masks, shutting down certain businesses?

Focusing on overall health is great and absolutely necessary but does nothing in the short term in the middle of a pandemic. Having said that, the effect the virus has on people is not entirely understood...there are some seemingly perfectly healthy people who get severe reactions to it.

In addition, having the virus go through the whole population will more than likely lead to collapse of the healthcare system...ICU beds are not unlimited.

The steps that were taken by most countries (limiting movement, gatherings, etc) were necessary in the circumstances...there really weren't other realistic options.

 

[nOOky]

My employers strategy is to pay for all covid testing and any related expenses including vaccinations if required. Employees working from home will not be back until they have been vaccinated. While not a punishment, it certainly is an incentive as people working from home may be viewed as somewhat "different" if they refuse a shot and don't want to come back to the workplace to work. Imagine a year from now being an employee on a Zoom meeting from home because you are the only one not vaccinated yet.

They will also require employees not vaccinated to keep wearing masks and social distancing even if everyone else has been vaccinated. It's a peer pressure approach and totally legal and within the requirements of the CDC etc.

 

[MtnMan]

We don't need to force vaccines on people. They'll just have to continue lockdown until the cases counts drop to safe levels. If COVID ever picks back up they'll have to lockdown again. I think the convience of being vaccinated will be enough to get most to vaccinate.

With stupid assholes like weblooker around, we are going to be wearing masks until the virus mutates into something less lethal. But seeing how the recent mutations are becoming more virulent and deadly, we will be wearing masks for years.

 

[Commodus]

To elaborate on what @nOOky said: the government won't force you to get a vaccine for day-to-day life, but you may not have much choice on a practical level.

Companies will require shots as a matter of workplace safety. Concerts? Quite possibly. Want to fly? You might not need proof of vaccination within the country, but you'll likely have to get a vaccine before traveling abroad. And of course, family and friends are within their rights to refuse contact.

I'm sure some people will remain anti-vax and anti-science to the bitter end, but I could see some people caving in as they realize they'll be functionally isolated.

 

[abj13]

The word I've heard from others across the country regarding whether their employer would require a vaccine is that many are waiting for the full FDA licensure for the vaccines. From an efficacy and safety standpoint, the difference between the Emergency Use Authorization and a full licensure from the FDA is minor, especially for the preexisting trial data for the vaccines. However, from a legal standpoint, the differences are significant. A business mandating a vaccine under a EUA hasn't been formally challenged in the legal system, so many employers don't want to bother with being the "test case."

Once the vaccines are fully licensed. I'd expect major medical centers to lead the way in mandating the vaccine for all employees. And if there's a situation that would further accelerate striking down BS vaccine exemption excuses, this is the time.

 

[dank69]

Yes my choice might be a stupid one and as result of it might die or I might get seriously sick for the rest of my life. I am willing to take that chances and i am making decision not to take this vaccine knowing the risk i am taking by refusing vaccination. As for my exposure if i am asymptomatic, i do not care. I am not making this decision for anyone but myself. If someone dies as result of my decision, oh well that is life. Yes i know it seems very cold and it probably is but at the end of the day my body my choice.

I award you one yike.

No i am making that decision for myself, how it impacts others is not my concern.

I award you one more yike.

King MAGA has spoken, get your damn shot

Trump urges Americans to get Covid-19 vaccine: 'I would recommend it'

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday urged Americans to get vaccinated to help curb the Covid-19 pandemic, calling it "safe" and "something that works."

www.cnn.com

Oh no! Trump has been corrupted by the Deep State? Is no one safe from their reach?!

 

[hal2kilo]

King MAGA has spoken, get your damn shot

Trump urges Americans to get Covid-19 vaccine: 'I would recommend it'

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday urged Americans to get vaccinated to help curb the Covid-19 pandemic, calling it "safe" and "something that works."

www.cnn.com

Alright MAGA's, no excuse now. Trump finally earned a point.

 

[MrSquished]

Q is going crazy on Parler trying to figure this Trump statement out.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Q is going crazy on Parler trying to figure this Trump statement out.

He was hacked! Its the Bill Gates control chip!

Which, you know what, kudos to Turmp. I'm sure its purely so he can claim credit for saving America and pretend like he solely developed the vaccine so he can plan his next attempt at overthrowing the government, but if it gets his clowny freaks to get vaccinated, great.

 

[kage69]

Torn. While I don't want them getting sick due to the ability to infect others, I'm quite comfortable with racist douchebag traitors being long haulers, or removing themselves from the gene pool and voter reg altogether. Hard to feel sorry for people who stormed our capital with a confederate flag, got people killed, ultimately wanted to throw out the democracy Americans have died to protect. Same for those who defend what happened. They want to assist in reducing their hazardous effects on liberty and national security? Cool.

Not that it matters. They don't care their politicians are taking credit for relief they voted against, they don't care about the number of dead people elected republican followers help create. These people are in a cult that will continue to portray face masks as tyranny incarnate. They're going to get people sick and dead with their selfish denial no what matter anyone says. Get a vaccine? Yeah right after they read the Mueller Report.



America deserves better Americans.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Q is going crazy on Parler trying to figure this Trump statement out.

They're probably waiting for their shaman to blow white smoke out of his a$$ to let them know its okay.

 

[DaaQ]

A right is something that is granted to us by the constitution, a privilege is given to us as a right by al law. There was a case actually i believe in NJ or NY where they try to keep someone that came from Ebola area in quarantine and judge denied it. Until and unless someone with ebola got symptoms and it can be shown that they are danger to others, they can't be forcefully quarantine against their will.


Not your right to potentially kill people asshole.
No matter what you may think.

How about rules of being a human. Do no harm to your fellow man wherever possible.
You get to throw that away because of your perceived freedoms?

The bold, highlighted, enlarged text right here is circular reasoning that will never result in an honest debate.

Edit: Difference between right and a law.....

 

[cytg111]

Yes my choice might be a stupid one and as result of it might die or I might get seriously sick for the rest of my life. I am willing to take that chances and i am making decision not to take this vaccine knowing the risk i am taking by refusing vaccination. As for my exposure if i am asymptomatic, i do not care. I am not making this decision for anyone but myself. If someone dies as result of my decision, oh well that is life. Yes i know it seems very cold and it probably is but at the end of the day my body my choice.

You know, when the zombie apocalypse is over us and food dries up, I am gonna eat you first.

 

[MtnMan]

Imagine if you will, some dumb fuck like our local trolling for trumpanzee that joined back on Jan 18, 2021 were to get COVID because they don't give a fuck if they kill anyone else, and they only get some less lethal symptoms, like the loss of smell and taste.

You could serve them a steaming bowl of shit from the Taco Bell restroom, and tell them it was pudding, they would eat it because they can't taste or smell anything. A bowl of shit eating a bowl of shit... Bon Appétit.

 

[sportage]

My magalicious parents believe that they've already had COVID and won't take a shot. I keep telling them if they catch it they will die which is akin to talking to a dead cockroach or water off a duck's back.

HAHA. Yeah, I hear that a lot too from my blood-related Trumpies. Back in 2019 my sister had a cough so she thinks that she had covid and need not the shot. And her son, 36 years old, also had a bad cold back in 2019 as well as did his wife, so they believe they are now covid immune. Insane reasoning from college educated people who still have all their teeth....

What gets me is who trumpies will believe and what they will believe. My sister openly proclaims that she doesn't trust the government. And she thinks that she could never get covid because... she takes vitamins and herbs every day. She takes a lot of mail order herbs and supplements. So.... she trusts in the dark forces and unknown forces that manufacture the herbs yet she refuses to trust the CDC or anything US government. Same goes for QAnon, where a lot of them subscribe to the fantasies of QAnon yet they have no idea who or what or where QAnon comes from or who runs it. So they won't believe the US government yet they will believe fully, sight unseen, in some unknown entity operating from who knows where and taking their word as the gospel truth. WHY??? I don't get it. It's like if they come across information on some odd obscure internet site then its believable, but the government or CNN or the CDC ???, they absolutely refuse to believe. What can you do ????

 

[feralkid]

The bold, highlighted, enlarged text right here is circular reasoning that will never result in an honest debate.

Edit: Difference between right and a law.....

I think his proof-reader is out sick with covid-19.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Imagine if you will, some dumb fuck like our local trolling for trumpanzee that joined back on Jan 18, 2021 were to get COVID because they don't give a fuck if they kill anyone else, and they only get some less lethal symptoms, like the loss of smell and taste.

You could serve them a steaming bowl of shit from the Taco Bell restroom, and tell them it was pudding, they would eat it because they can't taste or smell anything. A bowl of shit eating a bowl of shit... Bon Appétit.

I mean, clearly he likes eating shit based on how much of it he consumes and how much of his brain he's displaced with it, so I'm not sure its as much of a punishment as you think.

 

[VRAMdemon]

King MAGA has spoken, get your damn shot

Trump urges Americans to get Covid-19 vaccine: 'I would recommend it'

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday urged Americans to get vaccinated to help curb the Covid-19 pandemic, calling it "safe" and "something that works."

www.cnn.com

This is a classic example of a stopped clock situation. Its one of those rare instances where good policy happened by chance to intersect with Trump’s self interest. The only thing that Trump has to show for his handling of the Covid19 crisis is that he got a vaccine developed on his watch, as far as he is concerned .. its "HIS" vaccine. So if people think its ineffective or dangerous, it reflects poorly on him. If Biden had been president when it was developed, he would be telling people that the vaccine will turn them into a transsexual.

It also shows you the "caliber" of thought exercised by his supporters and former supporters. A number of them are upset with him now for saying that the virus is real, that it’s deadly, and that people should get vaccinated. They did not support him because they believed he would be a good president. They supported him because he mouthed the same prejudices they hold to.

 

[MrSquished]

If everyone else was vaccinated, and MAGATS were the only ones getting sick and dying

 

[ch33zw1z]

Doesn't really work like that. The more it spreads, the more mutations we'll have until another pandemic strain comes along....just like the flu. And at least we will have the blueprints for a vaccine ready to roll *hopefully* so it can be adapted and made quickly. If H1N1 is any measurement, six months to a functional vaccine still isn't bad.

 

[MtnMan]

If everyone else was vaccinated, and MAGATS were the only ones getting sick and dying

Nope, get used to masks, getting your temp checked, etc., This ain't the flu.

 

[Commodus]

Nope, get used to masks, getting your temp checked, etc., This ain't the flu.

I figure (or at least, hope) masks and other measures will be relatively short-lived once enough people have been vaccinated. Israeli data suggests that at least Pfizer (and probably Moderna) dramatically cuts transmission. If that's the case, the pandemic could peter out rather quickly even if we haven't reached full herd immunity.

The question, of course, is how long "short-lived" is. It could be a few months; it could be a year or more. It's more just that we shouldn't assume we'll be masking up for years.

 

[MtnMan]

Diseases like polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, etc., have been eliminated or nearly so in this country due to a high percentage of people being vaccinated, in the range of 80% - 90%.

In today's world of karens and weblooker2021s, whom I assume refuses the vaccine so he can be a complete asshole, and evangelicals, and other conspiracy theorists, we will be lucky to surpass 66%, and that's not enough.