Does anybody have more than this?

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually it's good he shot himself in the foot, maybe it will relagate him to a position of unimportance within his party and the American Political scene as a whole. He has to much baggage the Rovian Spin Machine can use to get away from talking about the real issues.

Hasnt stopped the blowbag Kennedy. Kerry is a douchebag for sure, but Kennedy says these types of stupid remarks on an almost daily basis.

Of course I guess we all just assume it is the alcohol speaking so we dont take it serious?

I do agree his run in 08 is over. Noway will this slip up be left alone by the republicans or swift boat for vets who will magically reappear if he runs.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: xenolith
Message for Jon Carry from the troops

as I thought, the damage is done... see Craig, perception is everything!

LOL.. I love it!

 

[cKGunslinger]

Well, finally. All I've heard on the TV at lunch today was about Kerry's "joke" that basically said he thought our troops were all morons. There was never a sound byte or clip, or even a transcript to show what exactly he said. My guess would be that the more the clip got out, the more people would realize what he intended was a quip aimed our the Pres, and not the troops, so by talking about the "outrage" rather than the actual words, the spin machine can crucify him (and therefore, all Dems) that much easier.

That said, what he said *was* pretty boneheaded. It's sorta funny when you think about all the Dems who criticize Bush for being socially and verbally inept, yet their latest "best offering" shows himself to be equally as awkward and out of touch with reality. But Rove > any Democratic spin meister.

Originally posted by: xenolith
Message for Jon Carry from the troops

:laugh: I love our troops.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: glenn beck
This 10 second clip, curious the whole context of his message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o

There should be hell to pay for that comment.

I'm curious, so you're placing an off joke by a democrat who isn't even running for office above a republican who solicited 15 year old boys?

How do you sleep at night?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
LOL.. I love it!

Which do you love more -- The egg on Kerry's face for a botched punchline, or the blood on Bush's hands from 3,000 dead and tens of thousands of wounded American troops tossed into a war based only on LIES? :shocked:

You and your dipwad Commando In Chief have a lot more to LOL about, as long as you understand that it stands for Lies On Lies. :|

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
LOL.. I love it!

Which do you love more -- The egg on Kerry's face for a botched punchline, or the blood on Bush's hands from 3,000 dead and tens of thousands of wounded American troops tossed into a war based only on LIES? :shocked:

You and your dipwad Commando In Chief have a lot more to LOL about, as long as you understand that it stands for Lies On Lies. :|

When in doubt pull out the costs of the war. It works 60% of the time, everytime.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: glenn beck
This 10 second clip, curious the whole context of his message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o

There should be hell to pay for that comment.

And how about Tony Snow's comment when asked about troop deaths in Iraq: "That's just a number."

Or Bush when asked about the man behind the 9/11 attacks: "I don't think about him that much."

When do republicans stop latching onto every scrap that falls on the floor and actually start trying to defend some of their own actions?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Willie11b
It doesn't matter how Kerry meant the statement nearly as much as the perception. I am an enlisted member of the army with a bachelor's degree from GA Tech. Additionally, I am one thesis away from a master's degree if I ever get enough time to finish it. I chose to enlist in the Army and am proud of that decision regardless of my feelings on the war in Iraq. The perception around my unit is that Kerry is calling us idiots. The real intent of his comment is going to have no impact. The perceived intent, whether real or not, is having a tremendous impact.

My 2p

You kow what's ironic? If your unit can't understand that his comments were about the president and the troops, then they *are* a bit idiotic.

So says the parrot.

Even after reviewing the entire video with an open mind I was unable to determine which way Kerry was going with the comment.

Even if we give that douchebag Kerry the benefit of the doubt, you still missed Willie's entire point: Perception is everything.

Viewing the video with an open mind ....... then calling him a douchebag in the next sentence. Somehow, that seems to be a bit conflicting.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
LOL.. I love it!

Which do you love more -- The egg on Kerry's face for a botched punchline, or the blood on Bush's hands from 3,000 dead and tens of thousands of wounded American troops tossed into a war based only on LIES? :shocked:

You and your dipwad Commando In Chief have a lot more to LOL about, as long as you understand that it stands for Lies On Lies. :|

actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Willie11b
It doesn't matter how Kerry meant the statement nearly as much as the perception. I am an enlisted member of the army with a bachelor's degree from GA Tech. Additionally, I am one thesis away from a master's degree if I ever get enough time to finish it. I chose to enlist in the Army and am proud of that decision regardless of my feelings on the war in Iraq. The perception around my unit is that Kerry is calling us idiots. The real intent of his comment is going to have no impact. The perceived intent, whether real or not, is having a tremendous impact.

My 2p

You kow what's ironic? If your unit can't understand that his comments were about the president and the troops, then they *are* a bit idiotic.

So says the parrot.

Even after reviewing the entire video with an open mind I was unable to determine which way Kerry was going with the comment.

Even if we give that douchebag Kerry the benefit of the doubt, you still missed Willie's entire point: Perception is everything.

A former military grunt who served in Vietnam, and you call him a douchebag, even though he didn't use his family connections to keep himself on U.S. soil. Yeah, he's the douchebag, not you and your wonderful President of Corporate America.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Viewing the video with an open mind ....... then calling him a douchebag in the next sentence. Somehow, that seems to be a bit conflicting.

Not really. Having an open mind means not being hasty is making judgments and hearing all sides of a discussion before weighing in. It does *NOT* mean being void of any and all opinions. I think Kerry proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, in the 2004 campaign and beyond, that he is the quintessential douche bag. He's even more out of touch with reality than the current kook in the WH.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Willie11b
It doesn't matter how Kerry meant the statement nearly as much as the perception. I am an enlisted member of the army with a bachelor's degree from GA Tech. Additionally, I am one thesis away from a master's degree if I ever get enough time to finish it. I chose to enlist in the Army and am proud of that decision regardless of my feelings on the war in Iraq. The perception around my unit is that Kerry is calling us idiots. The real intent of his comment is going to have no impact. The perceived intent, whether real or not, is having a tremendous impact.

My 2p

You kow what's ironic? If your unit can't understand that his comments were about the president and the troops, then they *are* a bit idiotic.

So says the parrot.

Even after reviewing the entire video with an open mind I was unable to determine which way Kerry was going with the comment.

Even if we give that douchebag Kerry the benefit of the doubt, you still missed Willie's entire point: Perception is everything.

Viewing the video with an open mind ....... then calling him a douchebag in the next sentence. Somehow, that seems to be a bit conflicting.

not really.. if you close your eyes and listen to the entire video clip, which I've done several times now. I'm tellin ya, if it really was a "botched joke," then man, he REALLY botched the hell out of it! that entire portion of the speech is awkward and it's unclear as to whether or not he was continuing with another one-liner about Bush or actually beginning his serious discussion on education... Just prior to the "joke" was a statement that he wished to start talking about Education...

whatever the case, one doesnt need to like the source to listen with an open ear in order to establish the context of a statement.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Willie11b
It doesn't matter how Kerry meant the statement nearly as much as the perception. I am an enlisted member of the army with a bachelor's degree from GA Tech. Additionally, I am one thesis away from a master's degree if I ever get enough time to finish it. I chose to enlist in the Army and am proud of that decision regardless of my feelings on the war in Iraq. The perception around my unit is that Kerry is calling us idiots. The real intent of his comment is going to have no impact. The perceived intent, whether real or not, is having a tremendous impact.

My 2p

You kow what's ironic? If your unit can't understand that his comments were about the president and the troops, then they *are* a bit idiotic.

So says the parrot.

Even after reviewing the entire video with an open mind I was unable to determine which way Kerry was going with the comment.

Even if we give that douchebag Kerry the benefit of the doubt, you still missed Willie's entire point: Perception is everything.

A former military grunt who served in Vietnam, and you call him a douchebag, even though he didn't use his family connections to keep himself on U.S. soil. Yeah, he's the douchebag, not you and your wonderful President of Corporate America.

I don't care if the guy invented beer and sex, he's STILL a douchebag for everything he's done since!

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

And like your pissant Asshole In Chief, the best you can do is sit here laughing about their deaths and cheering those whose lies are responsible for them. Pathetic! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Personally, I did a little more. I wrote and recorded this song.

Who's Watching Over Who's Watching Over You?

Words and Music by Harvey Rubens
Copyright 2006

Verse 1:

I see men looking over their shoulder,
Running hard just trying to stay alive,
And they say that it's gonna get colder before it gets better.

At the time of the crime, who believed us?
We all took a fall on the ride,
When the powers that be had deceived us to leave us the debtor.

Chorus:

And who's watching over who's watching over you?
Tell me who's telling you what to do what to do?

Verse 2:

All the forces of war were compelling,
And blacker than Colin, the Knight,
And the lies they were telling, they sell in the name of their savior.

They silence the voices arising,
From those who would show us the light.
With their guys with their spies in the skies watching you and your neighbor.

Chorus:

Verse 3:

I see men who are trying to squeeze us,
And taking whatever they can,
While they buy those who try to appease us with scraps from their table.

It gets harder each day to break even.
This wasn't a part of my plan.
Time is right to be fighting or leaving this tower of Babel.

Chorus:

It may turn out to be no more effective than discussing it with mindless neocon sycophants like you, but at least, it's something more and different, and at least I'm trying.

 

[Pens1566]

Open mind FTW.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

And like your pissant Asshole In Chief, the best you can do is sit here laughing about their deaths and cheering those whose lies are responsible for them. Pathetic! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Personally, I did a little more. I wrote and recorded this song">http://www.apartment808.com/host/WhosWatching.mp3</a>.

Who's Watching Over Who's Watching Over You?

Words and Music by Harvey Rubens
Copyright 2006

Verse 1:

I see men looking over their shoulder,
Running hard just trying to stay alive,
And they say that it's gonna get colder before it gets better.

At the time of the crime, who believed us?
We all took a fall on the ride,
When the powers that be had deceived us to leave us the debtor.

Chorus:

And who's watching over who's watching over you?
Tell me who's telling you what to do what to do?

Verse 2:

All the forces of war were compelling,
And blacker than Colin, the Knight,
And the lies they were telling, they sell in the name of their savior.

They silence the voices arising,
From those who would show us the light.
With their guys with their spies in the skies watching you and your neighbor.

Chorus:

Verse 3:

I see men who are trying to squeeze us,
And taking whatever they can,
While they buy those who try to appease us with scraps from their table.

It gets harder each day to break even.
This wasn't a part of my plan.
Time is right to be fighting or leaving this tower of Babel.

Chorus:

It may turn out to be no more effective than discussing it with mindless neocon sycophants like you, but at least, it's something more and different, and at least I'm trying.

Is advertising allowed on this forum? Move to ban

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

And like your pissant Asshole In Chief, the best you can do is sit here laughing about their deaths and cheering those whose lies are responsible for them. Pathetic! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Personally, I did a little more. I wrote and recorded this song">http://www.apartment808.com/host/WhosWatching.mp3</a>.

Who's Watching Over Who's Watching Over You?

Words and Music by Harvey Rubens
Copyright 2006

Verse 1:

I see men looking over their shoulder,
Running hard just trying to stay alive,
And they say that it's gonna get colder before it gets better.

At the time of the crime, who believed us?
We all took a fall on the ride,
When the powers that be had deceived us to leave us the debtor.

Chorus:

And who's watching over who's watching over you?
Tell me who's telling you what to do what to do?

Verse 2:

All the forces of war were compelling,
And blacker than Colin, the Knight,
And the lies they were telling, they sell in the name of their savior.

They silence the voices arising,
From those who would show us the light.
With their guys with their spies in the skies watching you and your neighbor.

Chorus:

Verse 3:

I see men who are trying to squeeze us,
And taking whatever they can,
While they buy those who try to appease us with scraps from their table.

It gets harder each day to break even.
This wasn't a part of my plan.
Time is right to be fighting or leaving this tower of Babel.

Chorus:

It may turn out to be no more effective than discussing it with mindless twits like you, but at least, it's something more and different, and at least I'm trying.

I'm too busy trying to avoid becoming one of your useful statistics to stop and write a Damn-The-Man song.

but hey, good for you! Maybe you can get it recorded, burned, and sell a few copies at your next WTO rally.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
LOL.. I love it!

Which do you love more -- The egg on Kerry's face for a botched punchline, or the blood on Bush's hands from 3,000 dead and tens of thousands of wounded American troops tossed into a war based only on LIES? :shocked:

You and your dipwad Commando In Chief have a lot more to LOL about, as long as you understand that it stands for Lies On Lies. :|

actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

Actually, this administration and republicans used the lives of americans and Iraqis to further their agenda for the past 5 years... I think causing their deaths is more important than merely pointing them out.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

The troops reaction... :laugh:

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

And like your pissant Asshole In Chief, the best you can do is sit here laughing about their deaths and cheering those whose lies are responsible for them. Pathetic! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Personally, I did a little more. I wrote and recorded this song">http://www.apartment808.com/host/WhosWatching.mp3</a>.

Who's Watching Over Who's Watching Over You?

Words and Music by Harvey Rubens
Copyright 2006

Verse 1:

I see men looking over their shoulder,
Running hard just trying to stay alive,
And they say that it's gonna get colder before it gets better.

At the time of the crime, who believed us?
We all took a fall on the ride,
When the powers that be had deceived us to leave us the debtor.

Chorus:

And who's watching over who's watching over you?
Tell me who's telling you what to do what to do?

Verse 2:

All the forces of war were compelling,
And blacker than Colin, the Knight,
And the lies they were telling, they sell in the name of their savior.

They silence the voices arising,
From those who would show us the light.
With their guys with their spies in the skies watching you and your neighbor.

Chorus:

Verse 3:

I see men who are trying to squeeze us,
And taking whatever they can,
While they buy those who try to appease us with scraps from their table.

It gets harder each day to break even.
This wasn't a part of my plan.
Time is right to be fighting or leaving this tower of Babel.

Chorus:

It may turn out to be no more effective than discussing it with mindless twits like you, but at least, it's something more and different, and at least I'm trying.

I'm too busy trying to avoid becoming one of your useful statistics to stop and write a Damn-The-Man song.

but hey, good for you! Maybe you can get it recorded, burned, and sell a few copies at your next WTO rally.

Or as the theme music for your clan's BF2 server.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
actually, I spend most of my time here lawling at guys like you.... and feeling sorry for you too.

The only value you've given those lives that have been lost is the impact of their number in your political "debates." They are nothing more than a useful statistic to you.

And like your pissant Asshole In Chief, the best you can do is sit here laughing about their deaths and cheering those whose lies are responsible for them. Pathetic! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Personally, I did a little more. I wrote and recorded this song">http://www.apartment808.com/host/WhosWatching.mp3</a>.

Who's Watching Over Who's Watching Over You?

Words and Music by Harvey Rubens
Copyright 2006

Verse 1:

I see men looking over their shoulder,
Running hard just trying to stay alive,
And they say that it's gonna get colder before it gets better.

At the time of the crime, who believed us?
We all took a fall on the ride,
When the powers that be had deceived us to leave us the debtor.

Chorus:

And who's watching over who's watching over you?
Tell me who's telling you what to do what to do?

Verse 2:

All the forces of war were compelling,
And blacker than Colin, the Knight,
And the lies they were telling, they sell in the name of their savior.

They silence the voices arising,
From those who would show us the light.
With their guys with their spies in the skies watching you and your neighbor.

Chorus:

Verse 3:

I see men who are trying to squeeze us,
And taking whatever they can,
While they buy those who try to appease us with scraps from their table.

It gets harder each day to break even.
This wasn't a part of my plan.
Time is right to be fighting or leaving this tower of Babel.

Chorus:

It may turn out to be no more effective than discussing it with mindless twits like you, but at least, it's something more and different, and at least I'm trying.

I'm too busy trying to avoid becoming one of your useful statistics to stop and write a Damn-The-Man song.

but hey, good for you! Maybe you can get it recorded, burned, and sell a few copies at your next WTO rally.

Or as the theme music for your clan's BF2 server.

LOL.. nah, I dont think my BF2 clanmates would go for it... some of them make me look pretty damn liberal!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Sometimes I'm so good it's scary... Dems throw Kerry under the bus

A few Democratic candidates joined Republicans Wednesday in pressing John Kerry to apologize for a comment critics said appeared disrespectful of U.S. troops as several Kerry campaign appearances were canceled.
"Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said," said Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr., running for Senate in Tennessee.

"Sen. Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid," said Montana Senate President Jon Tester, a Democrat trying to unseat GOP Sen. Conrad Burns. "He owes our troops and their families an apology."

"I'm sorry he did what he did. But I think the issue ... we want to make sure it doesn't confuse the subject of the war in Iraq," Democratic Rep. Ben Cardin, running for Senate in Maryland, said on CNN.

Harold Ford's full statement was almost word for word what I posted here. I can't find it anywhere though... I'll keep looking. Ben Cardin stole my opening line! Heh...

 

[xenolith]

Retired Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney calls for Kerry?s resignation

 

[CellarDoor]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Sometimes I'm so good it's scary... Dems throw Kerry under the bus

A few Democratic candidates joined Republicans Wednesday in pressing John Kerry to apologize for a comment critics said appeared disrespectful of U.S. troops as several Kerry campaign appearances were canceled.
"Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said," said Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr., running for Senate in Tennessee.

"Sen. Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid," said Montana Senate President Jon Tester, a Democrat trying to unseat GOP Sen. Conrad Burns. "He owes our troops and their families an apology."

"I'm sorry he did what he did. But I think the issue ... we want to make sure it doesn't confuse the subject of the war in Iraq," Democratic Rep. Ben Cardin, running for Senate in Maryland, said on CNN.

Harold Ford's full statement was almost word for word what I posted here. I can't find it anywhere though... I'll keep looking. Ben Cardin stole my opening line! Heh...

I think a lot of people threw him under the buss after he lost to Bush. I voted for him, but I agree he's somewhat of a douche bag. Of course, I knew that when I voted for him.

 

[xenolith]

Leftwing blog that didn't get the memo -- it was supposed to be a joke about the president.

Kerry then told the students that if they were able to navigate the education system, they could get comfortable jobs - ?If you don?t, you get stuck in Iraq,? he said to a mixture of laughter and gasps.

Talk about speaking the stark truth to students who want more out of life. The education system in California is a mess, especially in L.A. County. Each day I pick my daughter up at school I see the recruiters leaving, smiling because they have snagged another kid who?s trapped by the system and sees no future other than enlisting. It shouldn?t be like this. A 50% drop out rate is unacceptable. What is the bottom line for these kids, a job at McDonald?s or Iraq. Kudos to Kerry for delivering a wake up call to the young voters at the rally.