Doctors who do abortions

[DigDog]

yeah but people breaking the law shouldn't be used as an argument against abortion; same issue with the china deal, the problem is not the "abortion", is the "forced" part.

ofc the methaphor stops working when you have people who actually want those children; it's unlikely anyone would actually want cavities.

 

[nehalem256]

yeah but people breaking the law shouldn't be used as an argument against abortion; same issue with the china deal, the problem is not the "abortion", is the "forced" part.

ofc the methaphor stops working when you have people who actually want those children; it's unlikely anyone would actually want cavities.

Maybe they have a fear of dentists. And who rather deal with the cavity than go to dentist.

But its not a child. It is a fetus.

 

[alkemyst]

Is there such a thing? Do they really do them?


Here is the Hippocratic oath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

desperate to get phone calls?

abortion is a complex subject. U just threw shit on a wall.

 

[DCal430]

Maybe they have a fear of dentists. And who rather deal with the cavity than go to dentist.

But its not a child. It is a fetus.

I agree for most abortions this is true, but then you get into third trimester abortions, so what is the difference between a 35 week sold "fetus" and a baby born at 35 weeks.

 

[preCRT]

Women do not just suddenly change their minds about a pregnancy at 32+ weeks.


Third trimester abortions are rare and are done when there is a severe medical problem with the fetus or to save the woman's life.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Women do not just suddenly change their minds about a pregnancy at 32+ weeks.
Third trimester abortions are rare and are done when there is a severe medical problem with the fetus or to save the woman's life.

It appears to be a cornerstone of current Conservative Dogma that Liberal Women get pregnant and carry the pregnancy almost to term just so that they can have third trimester abortions.

 

[Rainsford]

Except for the fact that no one considers proctologists murders.

If everyone avoided careers that some people consider a part of the career responsibilities to be "murder" or otherwise morally objectionable, we wouldn't have soldiers, or many parts of the intelligence community, or police.

 

[Rainsford]

I agree for most abortions this is true, but then you get into third trimester abortions, so what is the difference between a 35 week sold "fetus" and a baby born at 35 weeks.

One of them is born and survives on its own as a separate life and the other does not. Birth is a pretty major difference, IMO.

 

[Atreus21]

One of them is born and survives on its own as a separate life and the other does not. Birth is a pretty major difference, IMO.

So a child is worthy of life only if it happens to reside in a place we consider beyond our reach. How lucky he or she was to escape before our attitudes conspired to rationalize away his or her murder.

One of them is born. The other is deliberately killed. That is the only difference between them.

These days, I think babies born prematurely are probably the luckiest. The earlier you're born, the better. Better to be born early and suffer, then give adults the slightest pretext to consider you inconvenient.

 

[nehalem256]

If everyone avoided careers that some people consider a part of the career responsibilities to be "murder" or otherwise morally objectionable, we wouldn't have soldiers, or many parts of the intelligence community, or police.

But few of these careers involve extremely bright people investing years of their lives to learn how to perform acts that large amounts of the population consider morally objectionable.

The vast majority of the population does not see being a soldier, CIA operative, or Police officer as being morally objectionable. For example those who object to police officers I think can be safely rejected as fringe loonies.

 

[DCal430]

One of them is born and survives on its own as a separate life and the other does not. Birth is a pretty major difference, IMO.

Then I guess premature birth is a good thing, gives the mother less time to change her mind.

I was born at 33 weeks by C-Section, thank goodness my mother didn't decide to just end me 33 weeks instead of allowing the doctor to just remove me.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I agree for most abortions this is true, but then you get into third trimester abortions, so what is the difference between a 35 week sold "fetus" and a baby born at 35 weeks.

One is a danger to the health of the Mother, the other a blessed event. Need it spelled out any clearer?

 

[alzan]

So a child is worthy of life only if it happens to reside in a place we consider beyond our reach. How lucky he or she was to escape before our attitudes conspired to rationalize away his or her murder.

One of them is born. The other is deliberately killed. That is the only difference between them.

These days, I think babies born prematurely are probably the luckiest. The earlier you're born, the better. Better to be born early and suffer, then give adults the slightest pretext to consider you inconvenient.

And how many of the very few third trimester abortions are done for the adults convenience? Also, how many are done for sound medical reasons (mother's life, etc.)

 

[nehalem256]

Then I guess premature birth is a good thing, gives the mother less time to change her mind.

I was born at 33 weeks by C-Section, thank goodness my mother didn't decide to just end me 33 weeks instead of allowing the doctor to just remove me.

And what percentage of abortions happen after 30 weeks?

 

[DCal430]

And how many of the very few third trimester abortions are done for the adults convenience? Also, how many are done for sound medical reasons (mother's life, etc.)

There are thousands done a year, the majority are for convience.

 

[DCal430]

One is a danger to the health of the Mother, the other a blessed event. Need it spelled out any clearer?

How is it a danger to the health of the mother?

 

[nehalem256]

There are thousands done a year, the majority are for convience.

So its convenient to carry a fetus around with you for 30+ weeks before aborting it?

 

[Atreus21]

So its convenient to carry a fetus around with you for 30+ weeks before aborting it?

If the mother's life isn't at stake or she is not a rape victim, there is zero justification for it.

 

[alzan]

There are thousands done a year, the majority are for convience.

Proof? And try to make it something more substantive than just your opinion.

 

[actuarial]

There are thousands done a year, the majority are for convience.

A quick google search came up with estimates of 1,032 according to wikipedia and only 100 according to Foxnews.

 

[nehalem256]

A quick google search came up with estimates of 1,032 according to wikipedia and only 100 according to Foxnews.

Which considering there are over 1 million abortions annually in the US would make it between 0.01% and 0.1%

 

[preCRT]

There are thousands done a year, the majority are for convience.

Did you just pull that number of of your uterus?

Oh wait, you don't have one, do you. Maybe you should just STFU.

In fact, all anti-choice folks without vaginas should stay the hell out of issues involving women's health and bodies.

← has a vagina

 

[thraashman]

It's also interesting that while the GOP consistently tries to defund Planned Parenthood, their patients receive abortions at a lower rate than the general population.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/0...-receive-fewer-abortions-than-general-public/

 

[abj13]

A quick google search came up with estimates of 1,032 according to wikipedia and only 100 according to Foxnews.

If you read the linked article in wiki, the number is actually smaller, 850 are aborted at weeks 25-26, and there were only 320 abortions after 26 weeks.

The truth is that most abortions are performed in the first trimester, with only a much smaller number into the second trimester.

Does anyone have problems with ectopic pregnancies? What's the treatment for that? Abortion. Or should mothers be forced to carry a pregnancy that will most likely cause their death?

 

[nehalem256]

Did you just pull that number of of your uterus?

Oh wait, you don't have one, do you. Maybe you should just STFU.

If fact, all anti-choice folks without vaginas should stay the hell out of issues involving women's health and bodies.

← has a vagina

I will stop involving myself in issues of women's health and bodies when you stop expecting me to pay for women's health and the stuff that comes out of women's bodies.

That sounds more than fair.