Do you use VSR/DSR with your games when possible?

[Bacon1]

I don't use it because I bought a 1440p monitor. I chose not to buy a 4K monitor. Why the hell would I want to use fake 4K when I could just buy a real 4K monitor? I don't want 4K. It is slow and it sucks.

Do you use AA? Because DSR/VSR can simulate AA due to the higher resolution -> downscaling making images look better and remove aliasing. Its actually the first was AA was done.

 

[tential]

I don't use it because I bought a 1440p monitor. I chose not to buy a 4K monitor. Why the hell would I want to use fake 4K when I could just buy a real 4K monitor? I don't want 4K. It is slow and it sucks.

Have you tried DSR?

Do you use AA? Because DSR/VSR can simulate AA due to the higher resolution -> downscaling making images look better and remove aliasing. Its actually the first was AA was done.

His question too.... since literally I refuse to use in game AA.
If I have the choice between:
a) 1080p
b) 1440p(1440p is desperation mode. Like I'm playing FO4 at 1440p. I really would rather just not play the game as I don't like 1440p VSR compared to even higher VSR)1800p/4K VSR 1080p
c) not playing a game.

You'll be surprised how often I choose option C. I need some form of AA, and I HATE AA and all forms of it, so VSR it is!

 

[railven]

So you have nothing to add but are pitching a fit over a well deserved ribbing?

Well my post was sort of a ribbing to you, so it seems you're the kettle to my pot. Haha.

 

[crisium]

Well, my problem with VSR is that it caps at 60hz on my 144hz display. So if I have a undemanding game I could do 60hz VSR 4K which isn't bad, but the alternate is native 1440p at far higher than 60hz. And believe me, any game I can get 144Hz locked at 1440p I am switching on back light strobing as that beats anything in terms of quality.

For 60hz users though you'd be silly to ignore VSR if you can still get locked framerates at a higher resolution.

 

[tential]

Well, my problem with VSR is that it caps at 60hz on my 144hz display. So if I have a undemanding game I could do 60hz VSR 4K which isn't bad, but the alternate is native 1440p at far higher than 60hz. And believe me, any game I can get 144Hz locked at 1440p I am switching on back light strobing as that beats anything in terms of quality.

For 60hz users though you'd be silly to ignore VSR if you can still get locked framerates at a higher resolution.

That's odd, another user can VSR and get higher refresh rates than 60 hz. Great, that's awkward. Ideally, I'd want to use a 1080p HDR Freesync screen with VSR at 4K (higher than 60 hz refresh rate), but well we'll see if that all works together!

 

[xthetenth]

Well, my problem with VSR is that it caps at 60hz on my 144hz display. So if I have a undemanding game I could do 60hz VSR 4K which isn't bad, but the alternate is native 1440p at far higher than 60hz. And believe me, any game I can get 144Hz locked at 1440p I am switching on back light strobing as that beats anything in terms of quality.

For 60hz users though you'd be silly to ignore VSR if you can still get locked framerates at a higher resolution.

I desperately want your screen but with an IPS panel all of a sudden. You'd say strobing is worth holding out for when looking for a Freesync screen, I guess?

 

[Bacon1]

That's odd, another user can VSR and get higher refresh rates than 60 hz. Great, that's awkward. Ideally, I'd want to use a 1080p HDR Freesync screen with VSR at 4K (higher than 60 hz refresh rate), but well we'll see if that all works together!

That is probably a bandwidth limitation, or panel one.

4k 60hz is max that can be done with displayport 1.2. 1.3 will add upto 4k 120hz.

 

[CropDuster]

I've only tried VSR in one game and it made the GUI elements tiny. Is that normal, or am I doing it wrong?

 

[Bacon1]

I've only tried VSR in one game and it made the GUI elements tiny. Is that normal, or am I doing it wrong?

It depends on the game or you need to use in game settings to scale the UI. You are basically telling the game you have a 4k monitor, so the UI is scaled correctly, the issue is when it comes to downscaling it back to 1080 (1/4).

 

[tential]

I've only tried VSR in one game and it made the GUI elements tiny. Is that normal, or am I doing it wrong?

If the game doesn't have a way to rescale the HUD, then I don't use it. For example, the Witcher 2 if I didn't use the comfy couch mod, I simply wouldn't play the game. IT's unplayable on a TV without that mod if you have the PC version while if you have the XBox/Console version, it's scaled correctly.

SO generally, I already know a game has hud scaling, but usually a game has HUD scaling and you should always scale the HUD to get it right when you play a game. Just makes it more immersive.

Hopefully this allows you to improve your game experience, and maybe get the GUI elements to the exact size you want them to if your game allows. If not, well screw VSR(or well any high resolution actually) in that game I guess lol. Sometimes that happens.

 

[PPB]

I personally feel flattered that one of the Project CARS devs has visited the forum.

Then I wouldnt calculate the level of awe you felt when you had the Frostbite engine head dev posting here (for a while, until the shill/trolls of some company lured him away, like usual).

 

[moonbogg]

I use AA and like it most of the time. If I can't tell a difference I leave it off. I have tried DSR with BF4. It reduced framerate to below 100 if I recall and it did look sharper and seemed to have finer details, but I said screw that because I wanted my FPS.

 

[crisium]

I desperately want your screen but with an IPS panel all of a sudden. You'd say strobing is worth holding out for when looking for a Freesync screen, I guess?

It does wonders for CS:GO. There is an IPS 144hz 1440p Freesync with backlight strobing.

Eizo Foris FS2735

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_foris_fs2735.htm

It's very expensive, hard to find, and doesn't seem to to have as smooth motion as my TN, but it is an option.

 

[tential]

I use AA and like it most of the time. If I can't tell a difference I leave it off. I have tried DSR with BF4. It reduced framerate to below 100 if I recall and it did look sharper and seemed to have finer details, but I said screw that because I wanted my FPS.

Woah, if you tried it on BF4 please don't judge it on that. BF4 is a freaking shooter. Try it on another game that doesn't have Resolution scale. I mean, BF4 has a native way of doing DSR so there isn't really a reason to use it. Although, I think I actually did use 1440p VSR with resolution scale at 150 on battlefront for fun. I liked it.

Try it on something like Fallout 4 or something that isn't a fast paced shooter where FPS matters.

Try some DSR settings and see if it improves the image quality of the game. I mean, you literally have nothing to lose, this is a feature of your own GPU. You only benefit to learn just how it can benefit you in certain situations.

I mean, you have GTX 980Ti SLI.... you DEFINITELY can get some extra detail in games if you're on a 1440p monitor using DSR.
I mean, if you played a game at Fallout 4, please don't tell me you just played at 1440p. It will make me cry inside.
A couple of settings moved off Ultra, a couple of resolution sliders pushed higher, replace a couple of textures, and all of a sudden, fallout 4 looks like an actually ok looking game. Like not like pretty, but like it's not ugly as hell.

 

[xthetenth]

It does wonders for CS:GO. There is an IPS 144hz 1440p Freesync with backlight strobing.

Eizo Foris FS2735

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_foris_fs2735.htm

It's very expensive, hard to find, and doesn't seem to to have as smooth motion as my TN, but it is an option.

Do you know if your TN would look way out of place in a group with two IPS screens in one of the side spots? Because I almost want one. Last I checked though the Fioris is priced high enough I'd get an ultrawide instead.

 

[moonbogg]

Woah, if you tried it on BF4 please don't judge it on that. BF4 is a freaking shooter. Try it on another game that doesn't have Resolution scale. I mean, BF4 has a native way of doing DSR so there isn't really a reason to use it. Although, I think I actually did use 1440p VSR with resolution scale at 150 on battlefront for fun. I liked it.

Try it on something like Fallout 4 or something that isn't a fast paced shooter where FPS matters.

Try some DSR settings and see if it improves the image quality of the game. I mean, you literally have nothing to lose, this is a feature of your own GPU. You only benefit to learn just how it can benefit you in certain situations.

I mean, you have GTX 980Ti SLI.... you DEFINITELY can get some extra detail in games if you're on a 1440p monitor using DSR.
I mean, if you played a game at Fallout 4, please don't tell me you just played at 1440p. It will make me cry inside.
A couple of settings moved off Ultra, a couple of resolution sliders pushed higher, replace a couple of textures, and all of a sudden, fallout 4 looks like an actually ok looking game. Like not like pretty, but like it's not ugly as hell.

What I meant is I tried BF4's resolution scale setting. I haven't actually used DSR. I will try it on some games I suppose. GTAV is already pegging the GPU's at 99% much of the time, so there isn't a lot of room there. I don't know man. 1440p is still tough to really push, even with two 980ti's. Adding DSR will only make things tougher. It could be good for older games I guess.

 

[tential]

What I meant is I tried BF4's resolution scale setting. I haven't actually used DSR. I will try it on some games I suppose. GTAV is already pegging the GPU's at 99% much of the time, so there isn't a lot of room there. I don't know man. 1440p is still tough to really push, even with two 980ti's. Adding DSR will only make things tougher. It could be good for older games I guess.

I just can't see how you only utilize 1440p...
I mean, if you drop 1-2 settings that don't add to IQ at all, you can massively improve IQ with DSR.

What games are you playing/played over the last 6 months? I mean, we're talking about two 980tis... at 1440p... that's a joke for those beast cards.

I'm playing 1440p with an R9 390 on most games I play. Crossfire R9 390s, you'd NEVER see me touch 1440p.

 

[wilds]

I never saw DSR/VSR viable unless I could scale at 2x or 4x. My 1080p display looks blurry at 1440p VSR. Do you guys truly see an improvement in quality at resolutions that do not fit well with the native resolution?

 

[tential]

I never saw DSR/VSR viable unless I could scale at 2x or 4x. My 1080p display looks blurry at 1440p VSR. Do you guys truly see an improvement in quality at resolutions that do not fit well with the native resolution?

I mean, if resolution scale works in Battlefield, I can't see why DSR/VSR wouldn't work.

Both work for me.

 

[wilds]

I mean, if resolution scale works in Battlefield, I can't see why DSR/VSR wouldn't work.

Both work for me.

I see what you mean. My single R9 290 cannot run my games at 4k without a lot of lag (Elite: Dangerous). But I meant that running the game at 1440p on my 1080p display looks awful. How would DSR/VSR make it look any better? If my R9 290 supported 4K VSR, I would use it.

On Elite: Dangerous, the game supports native SSAO. Forcing 1.5x scaling looks terrible. At 2x scaling, it simulates 4k. I do notice that there is a lot less aliasing then (looks great overall), but my FPS is quite poor. Is there any point in DSR/VSR for resolutions that do not fit the native resolution?

In my view, 4k is the ONLY relevant resolution to scale up to on a 1080p display.

 

[TheRyuu]

Is the idea with DSR that you can basically choose any scaling amount you want instead of being forced to choose between 2x or 4x with something like SGSSAA provided the latter is compatible? I would think if SGSSAA is compatible and you have the performance to spare then that would be the preferable route. I can't say I've used DSR very much and haven't really tried it out as much as I probably should.

 

[tential]

Is the idea with DSR that you can basically choose any scaling amount you want instead of being forced to choose between 2x or 4x with something like SGSSAA provided the latter is compatible? I would think if SGSSAA is compatible and you have the performance to spare then that would be the preferable route. I can't say I've used DSR very much and haven't really tried it out as much as I probably should.

Just kind of creepy to me how many Nvidia users never tried it out. Not just don't use it, but NEVER tried it. Like what's the point of going Nvidia if you don't use the features Nvidia releases?

Test it out on some games and see.... I mean, it's your GPU and not utilizing and learning what it's capable of is just a detriment to yourself. Nvidia works hard on releasing features/drivers. You'd think it'd be in your best interest to learn what those things are....

It's clearly a pattern though that it seems Nvidia users are more disinterested with DSR, while AMD users are actively using it.
On an enthusiast forum of course...

Explains why when I asked a lot about DSR when it first came out, only a few Nvidia users had much to say. Seems most just don't care.

 

[Kenmitch]

Just kind of creepy to me how many Nvidia users never tried it out. Not just don't use it, but NEVER tried it. Like what's the point of going Nvidia if you don't use the features Nvidia releases?

Test it out on some games and see.... I mean, it's your GPU and not utilizing and learning what it's capable of is just a detriment to yourself. Nvidia works hard on releasing features/drivers. You'd think it'd be in your best interest to learn what those things are....

It's clearly a pattern though that it seems Nvidia users are more disinterested with DSR, while AMD users are actively using it.
On an enthusiast forum of course...

Explains why when I asked a lot about DSR when it first came out, only a few Nvidia users had much to say. Seems most just don't care.

Maybe it has to do with how DSR works compared to VSR?

DSR is done with software.
VSR is done with hardware.

Performance hit on AMD side isn't much at all really.

 

[IllogicalGlory]

I used DSR a lot on my 980. Worked great for old games, lego games, 30 FPS games and the like. I haven't used VSR because the limitations are have been a deal-breaker. Doesn't even work at all with ultrawide monitors.

 

[wilds]

I just tried 4k (on my 1080p display) for Elite: Dangerous again.

Yeah, DSR/VSR should improve IQ better than AA can, but the cost is great. My R9 290 has to have the memory OC'd to 1500 MHz at increased voltage to get a decent framerate. Being purely bottlenecked by memory speed, I saw a nice increase in framerate. I had to have the power limit maxed out along with the fan speed to get the most out of performance. I saw a nice bump in framerate (~35fps -> 42fps in station for medium/high settings), but my GPU is working much harder; pumping out a lot more heat.

I don't think it is worth it. The IQ difference is good, but efficiency goes out the window. Native resolution is the most important factor. I don't see the point in maxing out my GPU on a resolution that is mostly wasted on an inferior display.

Going back to native 1080p, I do notice that text is a little blurrier, and there is a bit more aliasing. At maxed settings for 1080p, I get a consistent 60fps. At similar settings for 4k, I get 32 fps. At the normal distance I sit from the monitor, I can barely tell the difference in quality on most textures. There are some striking differences on small text, but it isn't worth the huge performance drop.

If most of us play modern games, than we probably don't see the appeal in using DSR/VSR unless we have the GPU grunt. If I owned 2 GTX 980 ti's, I'd probably own a 4k monitor as well, making DSR irrelevant. I see it as a good way to test our hardware, but other than that, it is kinda gimmicky imo.

I guess it is only worth it if 4k DSR/VSR can be used while maintaining the monitor's refresh rate.