do you tip pre or post tax?

[meltdown75]

OP tries to hard to start epic threads.

that's my tip for the day.

 

[Eeezee]

I'm a good tipper, so I guess tipping the total just comes naturally. I'll do 20% for a good job, 15% for okay service

 

[Eeezee]

Also, those who don't tip are scum

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Food:

Fuck food. Who just goes out and eats food? I only eat at non-franchised, locally owned places and I almost always get a beer or three when I go out to dinner. I tip 20% of the final bill unless you've really done something to make me mad, which is almost never. I rarely ever get upset with people in any service industry. I'm only there for an hour and they have to be there 40 hours a week. Most of the time they are doing the best they can't to provide fast, accurate service. On top of the 20% they normally get I give them an extra $1 for every drink I have. So a 20$ meal with 2 drinks gets you 6 bucks.

Bars:

I normally only drink where I know my bartenders by name. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically like you and I tip about 40%. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then you get $1 dollar for every drink I have, no matter how expensive the drink is. It takes just as long to pour a jack and coke as it does to pour crown and ginger. The price has nothing to do with the bartender.


Stop being so cheap and learn to only eat and drink at places that respect your service. Then you can stop being a customer and start being a guest and get treated much better. I can't tell you how many times tipping well and getting to know your servers and bartenders ends up with free drinks and good times with the staff when they aren't working, or even when they are working.

did you know that you are a really, really, super cool guy?

Yeah, really. I've never even worked in food service, and I concur. :thumbsup:

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
Also, those who don't tip are scum

No they aren't. Tipping is not a requirement and it is not something that should expected. By definition.

1. a gift of money, over and above payment due for service, as to a waiter or bellhop; tip.
2. something given without claim or demand.

It's not like it's a surprise to anyone who takes a job waiting tables, either. People not tipping is part of the job, just like people giving huge tips is part of the job.

Skipping out on a bill or making false claims about bad service to get a freebie... that's scum behavior. But not doing something you are aren't required to do does not make you scum.


Feeling an entitlement to a gift of money makes you pretentious.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Amused
Usually the after tax amount. The difference on the average ticket is so small as to not really matter to me.

 

[maziwanka]

pre. nyc tax is like 10% so f that

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: ja1484
Post tax, man. These poor fuckers waiting tables don't even have to be paid minimum wage.

Do you really want to screw a working single mother out of being able to buy baby formula that badly? Cough up the extra couple bucks, cheapskate. You can't take it with you.

I usually tip 20 to 25% of the total for acceptable (i.e. good enough) service. Very good service gets 30% usually. I have tipped 100% of the bill before for exceptional service, but I've only done this twice.

I am unaware of the US having a strict caste society that disallows them from getting a regular hourly wage-paying job. I'm not going to feel sorry for them or be guilted into giving them what other people think I should.
If a single mother is making that little money, she's most likely eligible for WIC from the state, that covers baby formula.

Not to mention she has means to feed a baby attached to her body, healthier too...

I tip post tax, usually 20%, or more.

 

[GregGreen]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Food:

Fuck food. Who just goes out and eats food? I only eat at non-franchised, locally owned places and I almost always get a beer or three when I go out to dinner. I tip 20% of the final bill unless you've really done something to make me mad, which is almost never. I rarely ever get upset with people in any service industry. I'm only there for an hour and they have to be there 40 hours a week. Most of the time they are doing the best they can't to provide fast, accurate service. On top of the 20% they normally get I give them an extra $1 for every drink I have. So a 20$ meal with 2 drinks gets you 6 bucks.

Bars:

I normally only drink where I know my bartenders by name. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically like you and I tip about 40%. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then you get $1 dollar for every drink I have, no matter how expensive the drink is. It takes just as long to pour a jack and coke as it does to pour crown and ginger. The price has nothing to do with the bartender.


Stop being so cheap and learn to only eat and drink at places that respect your service. Then you can stop being a customer and start being a guest and get treated much better. I can't tell you how many times tipping well and getting to know your servers and bartenders ends up with free drinks and good times with the staff when they aren't working, or even when they are working.

Pretty similar to what I do in terms of restaurants, but at bars, its usually just $1 per drink unless the bartender is super cool.

 

[GregGreen]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: jagec

I go to a restaurant because I'm hungry, not because I don't have any friends and need someone to remember my name and ask me what I did over the weekend. The job of a waiter is to (a)take my order to the kitchen, and (b)bring me my food. As long as they do that, they get a decent tip. I'm not going to tip 40% just because they feign interest in me, in fact, that would kind of turn me off.

I agree with the feigning interest thing and putting on a fake smile. You can be perky but you have absolutely no real interest in strangers who just want to eat - I hope those people aren't purposely taking a waiter/waitress job just because they are perky.

I hate to say anything the chinese do is good practice but the way their waiters work is much better... you can stop any of them walking around to get you what you need. They don't smile at you but they get that sh!t for you right away, and at the end, the tips are pooled. Tip % whether it be 10,15,20% isn't even a huge deal to them. You don't have to wait for some guy to re-emerge from a smoke break or because another table or two tied up your waiter with some stupid request. And how many times have you had to wait 10 minutes just to get your check and another 10 for them to return with your credit card? WTF?! Why can't I just ask this waiter walking by?

The whole waiting tables thing for tips just turns me off... you're a servant, be glad you get paid to do a job just like everybody else so quit complaining about an extra 10% one family didn't want to give you. You want more money grab a job that requires a 4-year+ education. Just because you have the open opportunity to spit in my food doesn't mean I need to pay you what your employer should be paying you - the whole restaurant industry is fuct up.

As a waiter, you are not a SERVANT but a SERVER... the difference is HUGE.

 

[Adam8281]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

I normally only drink where I know my bartenders by name. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically like you and I tip about 40%. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then you get $1 dollar for every drink I have, no matter how expensive the drink is. It takes just as long to pour a jack and coke as it does to pour crown and ginger. The price has nothing to do with the bartender.


Stop being so cheap and learn to only eat and drink at places that respect your service. Then you can stop being a customer and start being a guest and get treated much better. I can't tell you how many times tipping well and getting to know your servers and bartenders ends up with free drinks and good times with the staff when they aren't working, or even when they are working.

I normally only eat at places where the servers are required to wear pieces of flair. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically think you're stupid, because your name is right there on your damn name tag. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then I'm relieved, because I can spend my time talking to my wife instead of talking to you, and then you get $0 dollar for every drink I have because Diet Coke comes with free refills, and 15% of free is $0.

I can't tell you how many times not feeling compelled to tip with the fervor of one overcompensating for small genitalia has saved me from awkwardly having to decline invitations to have "good times with the staff" no doubt comprised of soirees with wait-staff from all the area restaurants, held in one of the new loft apartments in the art district, where menthol cigarettes and stories of spilled fettuccini are shared.

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: ja1484
Post tax, man. These poor fuckers waiting tables don't even have to be paid minimum wage.

Do you really want to screw a working single mother out of being able to buy baby formula that badly? Cough up the extra couple bucks, cheapskate. You can't take it with you.

I usually tip 20 to 25% of the total for acceptable (i.e. good enough) service. Very good service gets 30% usually. I have tipped 100% of the bill before for exceptional service, but I've only done this twice.

What the fuck is this the opening scene from Reservoir Dogs?

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I double the sales tax (8.125%) and round up to the nearest dollar. If service was bad, I round down and maybe subtract another dollar.

this is pretty much exactly what I do