Do you think we will ever have a cure for AIDS???

[RadiclDreamer]

You guys are reading me wrong. Yes it sucks that people get it BUT ignorance and LIFE CHOICES be it unprotected sex or sharing of needles is how you get it. Its not like you are just walking around minding your own business and all of the sudden you have HIV. I think science should be more focused on diseases that ARENT the result of choices. Such as juvenile diabetes, cancer, and other terrible life threatening diseases. Its not that I dont care about their suffering, Im just saying that they made the choice and it caused them to contract it, those with other diseases didnt.

Call me cold hearted or whatever, but I've seen too many people that haven't smoked get cancer and die as a result.

 

[BrownTown]

FWIW, while there is no "cure" for AIDS the number of cases and the number of deaths in the USA have been going down rapidly in the USA. There currently are drugs that can GREATLY extend the life of people with AIDS, and education has helped prevent new cases. While we may not be able to "cure" it now or any time soon we can definitely reduce the number of deaths significantly by way of education and drug therapy.

Also, there ARE anti-viral drugs that do kill viruses (including HIV), currently they are not good enough to completely eliminate an HIV infection, but they CAN stop you from ever developing AIDS. Just look at Magic Johnson, he was the first person I ever heard of who had HIV and he is still going along just fine and you see him on TV all the time and he looks completely health (except a little fat ). If we are able to make these drugs cheaper than more people can afford them and we can essentially delay the development of AIDS almost indefinitely.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
You guys are reading me wrong. Yes it sucks that people get it BUT ignorance and LIFE CHOICES be it unprotected sex or sharing of needles is how you get it. Its not like you are just walking around minding your own business and all of the sudden you have HIV. I think science should be more focused on diseases that ARENT the result of choices. Such as juvenile diabetes, cancer, and other terrible life threatening diseases. Its not that I dont care about their suffering, Im just saying that they made the choice and it caused them to contract it, those with other diseases didnt.

Call me cold hearted or whatever, but I've seen too many people that haven't smoked get cancer and die as a result.

What of children born with HIV? Or the millions in Africa who aren't educated to know about AIDS/HIV? They don't have a choice.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
You guys are reading me wrong. Yes it sucks that people get it BUT ignorance and LIFE CHOICES be it unprotected sex or sharing of needles is how you get it. Its not like you are just walking around minding your own business and all of the sudden you have HIV. I think science should be more focused on diseases that ARENT the result of choices. Such as juvenile diabetes, cancer, and other terrible life threatening diseases. Its not that I dont care about their suffering, Im just saying that they made the choice and it caused them to contract it, those with other diseases didnt.

Call me cold hearted or whatever, but I've seen too many people that haven't smoked get cancer and die as a result.

So you'd rather consign millions of people to painful deaths rather than blow a little coin on R&D?

As others have pointed out there are HIV infected people who acquired the virus through NO fault of their own.

 

[TheCanuck]

Originally posted by: Platypus

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Who cares, they gave it to themselves. Yes I understand there are a few that got it through transfusion, were born with it etc, but I would much rather have research in the areas of cancer, diabetes, etc. And yes i also understand that some people get cancer via life choices but there are a huge number that get it even though they made the right choices

lmao

That'll teach those sick freaks for having sex with monkeys!

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
You guys are reading me wrong. Yes it sucks that people get it BUT ignorance and LIFE CHOICES be it unprotected sex or sharing of needles is how you get it. Its not like you are just walking around minding your own business and all of the sudden you have HIV. I think science should be more focused on diseases that ARENT the result of choices. Such as juvenile diabetes, cancer, and other terrible life threatening diseases. Its not that I dont care about their suffering, Im just saying that they made the choice and it caused them to contract it, those with other diseases didnt.

Call me cold hearted or whatever, but I've seen too many people that haven't smoked get cancer and die as a result.

An ignorant view. Condoms break. Even when they don't, they aren't 100% effective. Children are born with it through infected parents. Millions in underdeveloped countries have no education on the subject. What if your wife sleeps around and gets it, and you have no reason to believe she isn't clean, so you don't use protection and you get it? Plus, hey, say you get drunk one night and make a mistake.

All of these people deserve death, in your view. Think about it before running your mouth again.

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
FWIW, while there is no "cure" for AIDS the number of cases and the number of deaths in the USA have been going down rapidly in the USA. There currently are drugs that can GREATLY extend the life of people with AIDS, and education has helped prevent new cases. While we may not be able to "cure" it now or any time soon we can definitely reduce the number of deaths significantly by way of education and drug therapy.

Also, there ARE anti-viral drugs that do kill viruses (including HIV), currently they are not good enough to completely eliminate an HIV infection, but they CAN stop you from ever developing AIDS. Just look at Magic Johnson, he was the first person I ever heard of who had HIV and he is still going along just fine and you see him on TV all the time and he looks completely health (except a little fat ). If we are able to make these drugs cheaper than more people can afford them and we can essentially delay the development of AIDS almost indefinitely.

THERE YOU GO

I bought this up because I notice that a new drug was being advertised on the market. It's a pill (can't remember the name) that combinds all the drugs and can be taken at night on an empty stomach. Yeah thats in the advertisement.

Look on wikipeida and it's 1,150 for a months supply.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Who cares, they gave it to themselves. Yes I understand there are a few that got it through transfusion, were born with it etc, but I would much rather have research in the areas of cancer, diabetes, etc. And yes i also understand that some people get cancer via life choices but there are a huge number that get it even though they made the right choices

In your ignorance you left out those victims of blood transfusions and caregivers that suffered contamination.

While I don't think we can cure AIDS (not any virus has been yet), we should be able to prevent it.

Now there is a lot of talk on the origins of it...I am thinking it's possibly like any plague; it just someone manifests itself.

We are slowly overcrowding ourselves on this planet and normally diseases jump up and fix the numbers. In animal studies you can take populations and grow them to their limits and these same things happen.

 

[FoBoT]

cure, no
vaccine, maybe, eventually

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Who cares, they gave it to themselves. Yes I understand there are a few that got it through transfusion, were born with it etc, but I would much rather have research in the areas of cancer, diabetes, etc. And yes i also understand that some people get cancer via life choices but there are a huge number that get it even though they made the right choices

In your ignorance you left out those victims of blood transfusions and caregivers that suffered contamination.

While I don't think we can cure AIDS (not any virus has been yet), we should be able to prevent it.

Now there is a lot of talk on the origins of it...I am thinking it's possibly like any plague; it just someone manifests itself.

We are slowly overcrowding ourselves on this planet and normally diseases jump up and fix the numbers. In animal studies you can take populations and grow them to their limits and these same things happen.

Blood transfusions is a very small percentage. I think the percentage of getting HIV through blood is like less then a percent of the total blood transfusions. But this is controlable if proper steps are taken to insure one who has AIDS or HIV dosen't give blood and persons with HIV is somehow blacklisted from giving blood.

 

[FoBoT]

p.s.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told me there is no AIDS in Iran, they have some kind of "AIDS Shield" or something
i think he made it out of nuclear material

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
p.s.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told me there is no AIDS in Iran, they have some kind of "AIDS Shield" or something
i think he made it out of nuclear material

No no no, you got it all wrong. Only gays get AIDS, and they don't have gays like our infidel filled countries do.

 

[Xavier434]

There will either be a cure eventually or an effective vaccine which will almost completely eliminate it (at least in non-third world countries) in due time. As much as I hate HIV and AIDS, I would much rather see money dumped into finding a cure/vaccine for Cancer.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
There will either be a cure eventually or an effective vaccine which will almost completely eliminate it (at least in non-third world countries) in due time. As much as I hate HIV and AIDS, I would much rather see money dumped into finding a cure/vaccine for Cancer.

I'll agree that cancer is definitely the bigger killer.

If we could live forever (without old age, not invulnerable), we'd eventually die of cancer.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

ever is a long time

so, yes

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Xavier434
There will either be a cure eventually or an effective vaccine which will almost completely eliminate it (at least in non-third world countries) in due time. As much as I hate HIV and AIDS, I would much rather see money dumped into finding a cure/vaccine for Cancer.

I'll agree that cancer is definitely the bigger killer.

If we could live forever (without old age, not invulnerable), we'd eventually die of cancer.

Cures should be more focused on the young imo. Sure we can extend human life but is that always neccessarily good?

I agree on cancer but I'm simply saying that medical research should focus more on curing rare diseases or more effective treatments that the young and middle aged are supsceptible to rather than treat the old ethically. Of course the old people make the company money. I mean honestly the amount of pills my grandparents take is quite high and there isn't a cure for aging it just slows it down= more cash since your taking it for the rest of your life.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
It seems almost AIDS is almost impossible. With the millions of dollars invested very little has came out. The recent vaccine was a failure.

You need to educate yourself before running your mouth. Study what has been done over the past 20 years and you will quickly learn how ignorant your statement is.

 

[NanoStuff]

Absolutely. Once we have the means to be on the offense of one chronic virus, we will have the means for many others, if not all viruses. The key is getting that first one, and we're not too far off on that.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Who cares, they gave it to themselves. Yes I understand there are a few that got it through transfusion, were born with it etc, but I would much rather have research in the areas of cancer, diabetes, etc. And yes i also understand that some people get cancer via life choices but there are a huge number that get it even though they made the right choices

The justice system does not sentence all the accused to death just to make sure the truly guilty don't slip through the cracks.

 

[Shawn]

You'd think that with all the people in Africa with AIDs that they would have eventually developed a natural immunity.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Shawn
You'd think that with all the people in Africa with AIDs that they would have eventually developed a natural immunity.

Won't happen because we're keeping the sick ones alive with cheap foreign drugs.

 

[spidey07]

Cure? No, it's a virus.
vaccination? Most likely not.

Mother nature has this incredible ability to make things right and achieve balance. Don't mess with her, she'll smack you down in a heartbeat.

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Here's the thing though...you are just band aiding the problem. You aren't curing the REAL problem which is behavior, culture, and ignorance.

You cure Aids and then they just continue acting the same way until another disease comes along and we rinse, wash, and repeat.

And it will always be like that, plain and simple. That's why there's no need to worry about curing people's sexual promiscuity and ignorance: it's impossible. The only thing we have a chance in hell of achieving is a cure/vaccine for AIDS/HIV, so that's what we should be working towards.

 

[ponyo]

I know several people who died from cancer. I don't know anyone who died from AIDS. I think the focus should be on cancer and not AIDS.

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Cure? No, it's a virus.
vaccination? Most likely not.

Mother nature has this incredible ability to make things right and achieve balance. Don't mess with her, she'll smack you down in a heartbeat.

Uh... tell that to all the people who don't have polio or smallpox right now. Like you and me.