Do you think this is moraly right?

[pallander]

It is about mp3.I know it is illegal to copy mp3 from the web and so on but In a moral point of view is it so wrong?
I dont think so.
1.I would never buy those albums anyway
2:The ´musicmakers and artists bath in champaine as it is ...
3.No one poor get hurt
4.All people on earth get the chance to hear good music....
I think it is illegal 100% but moraly ok 100%......

 

[minendo]

I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

 

[pallander]

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

thats a different thing..cars are made by workers and by steel..I can also sing..np

 

[Frosty3799]

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

bahaha

good association.

Josh

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: pallander

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

thats a different thing..cars are made by workers and by steel..I can also sing..np

And making music doesnt require workers or equipment?

 

[Frosty3799]

Originally posted by: pallander

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

thats a different thing..cars are made by workers and by steel..I can also sing..np

stealing is stealing, whether a candy bar from the candy shop, or a song from a musician

 

[loup garou]

Do we really need another thread on this?

 

[pallander]

Originally posted by: Frosty3799

Originally posted by: pallander

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

thats a different thing..cars are made by workers and by steel..I can also sing..np

stealing is stealing, whether a candy bar from the candy shop, or a song from a musician

I havent denied it is steeling but I think it is moraly ok...guess I am too much into the web..haha

 

[Nefrodite]

you don't have the moral right to enjoy the work of others for free.

your arguement that you wouldn't buy it anyways is a pathetic one. first of all, thats the same arguement shoplifters use. 2nd of all, of course you wouldn't buy it anyways when you could get it free. and if its so bad that you wouldn't buy it, why waste your time listening to it. so it ends up with you justifying theft...

if all people were like you, we'd be like china, devastating our media/intellectual property industries. and we wouldn't have an America to leech content from.

 

[Frosty3799]

Originally posted by: pallander

Originally posted by: Frosty3799

Originally posted by: pallander

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

thats a different thing..cars are made by workers and by steel..I can also sing..np

stealing is stealing, whether a candy bar from the candy shop, or a song from a musician

I havent denied it is steeling but I think it is moraly ok...guess I am too much into the web..haha

so, by your definition, you think everyone should go and steal a candy bar, hence putting the candy store out of business...

the candy man is doing good business, so i dont see why we cant take a few candy bars and not pay, he already has money anyway

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: pallander
It is about mp3.I know it is illegal to copy mp3 from the web and so on but In a moral point of view is it so wrong?
I dont think so.
1.I would never buy those albums anyway
2:The ´musicmakers and artists bath in champaine as it is ...
3.No one poor get hurt
4.All people on earth get the chance to hear good music....
I think it is illegal 100% but moraly ok 100%......

Okay, look at it from a different perspective. Lets say that you are an author by trade -- that's how you make all of your money. You spend years writing a novel, and you finally get it published, printed and distributed. Then the sales start happening and you finally make some money at it. One day, some asshole decides to put it on the net in digital format and all of a sudden everyone is downloading it and reading it for free, taking away from the would-be profits that you earned? Would that be considered stealing from you?

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: werk
Do we really need another thread on this?

 

[pallander]

Originally posted by: Nefrodite
you don't have the moral right to enjoy the work of others for free.

your arguement that you wouldn't buy it anyways is a pathetic one. first of all, thats the same arguement shoplifters use. 2nd of all, of course you wouldn't buy it anyways when you could get it free. and if its so bad that you wouldn't buy it, why waste your time listening to it. so it ends up with you justifying theft...

if all people were like you, we'd be like china, devastating our media/intellectual property industries. and we wouldn't have an America to leech content from.

I never said I was right,only my opinion..the web stands for freedom to me.

 

[bsobel]

Great, another fricken idiot around here. Let me guess, you 15?

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Beau6183

Originally posted by: pallander
It is about mp3.I know it is illegal to copy mp3 from the web and so on but In a moral point of view is it so wrong?
I dont think so.
1.I would never buy those albums anyway
2:The ´musicmakers and artists bath in champaine as it is ...
3.No one poor get hurt
4.All people on earth get the chance to hear good music....
I think it is illegal 100% but moraly ok 100%......

Okay, look at it from a different perspective. Lets say that you are an author by trade -- that's how you make all of your money. You spend years writing a novel, and you finally get it published, printed and distributed. Then the sales start happening and you finally make some money at it. One day, some asshole decides to put it on the net in digital format and all of a sudden everyone is downloading it and reading it for free, taking away from the would-be profits that you earned? Would that be considered stealing from you?

Bad argument. (read: library) People buy books because they want to own the tangible book. It's nice to be able to take a book wherever you're going to read when you have free time, and it's nice to be able to re-read it if you're so inclined, even years later.

Comment about stealing the car: If you steal a car, the previous owner of the car no longer has the car, as you have taken it from him or her. Not so with mp3s; the analogy is more like he's got a car, and suddenly, just because you wanted one, you have one too.

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: pallander

Originally posted by: minendo
I would never buy that car anyways officer and I know it is illegal to steal, but according to my morals it is ok.

thats a different thing..cars are made by workers and by steel..I can also sing..np

And making music doesnt require workers or equipment?

he thinks man hours spent developing something for his enjoyment are worthless so it must be ok to steal from musicians

 

[AShadeOfClear]

Only buy what you can't steal.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Beau6183

Originally posted by: pallander
It is about mp3.I know it is illegal to copy mp3 from the web and so on but In a moral point of view is it so wrong?
I dont think so.
1.I would never buy those albums anyway
2:The ´musicmakers and artists bath in champaine as it is ...
3.No one poor get hurt
4.All people on earth get the chance to hear good music....
I think it is illegal 100% but moraly ok 100%......

Okay, look at it from a different perspective. Lets say that you are an author by trade -- that's how you make all of your money. You spend years writing a novel, and you finally get it published, printed and distributed. Then the sales start happening and you finally make some money at it. One day, some asshole decides to put it on the net in digital format and all of a sudden everyone is downloading it and reading it for free, taking away from the would-be profits that you earned? Would that be considered stealing from you?

Bad argument. (read: library) People buy books because they want to own the tangible book. It's nice to be able to take a book wherever you're going to read when you have free time, and it's nice to be able to re-read it if you're so inclined, even years later.

Comment about stealing the car: If you steal a car, the previous owner of the car no longer has the car, as you have taken it from him or her. Not so with mp3s; the analogy is more like he's got a car, and suddenly, just because you wanted one, you have one too.

Okay, so books are in libraries, music has the radio.. big woopditty. The main purpose for books is to create a tangible distribution method of a product and to collect royalties for the author. How else is the author supposed to make money in his profession when everything he creates is intellectual?

 

[pallander]

Originally posted by: bsobel
Great, another fricken idiot around here. Let me guess, you 15?

no..but I dont buy music cause it cost too much and think it is moraly ok to download them..I am no idiot..

 

[Tominator]

If you can justify any illegal activity by using that argument, your morals are lacking.

 

[pallander]

Originally posted by: Tominator
If you can justify any illegal activity by using that argument, your morals are lacking.

I have a great moral to other things...not to mp3

 

[Scarpozzi]

If you Capitalistic Pigs would just DIE already, we wouldn't have this problem, eh comrades?

 

[poopaskoopa]

Heh. You don't think it's 100% moral. I bet you wouldn't feel comfortable telling your favorite artist that you downloaded his/her album rather than paying for it. Who cares if it's moral or that other people agree with you. That won't make you download songs any faster.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Heh. You don't think it's 100% moral. I bet you wouldn't feel comfortable telling your favorite artist that you downloaded his/her album rather than paying for it. Who cares if it's moral or that other people agree with you. That won't make you download songs any faster.

Yeah...you need more bandwidth for that...

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: pallander
It is about mp3.I know it is illegal to copy mp3 from the web and so on but In a moral point of view is it so wrong?
I dont think so.
1.I would never buy those albums anyway
2:The ´musicmakers and artists bath in champaine as it is ...
3.No one poor get hurt
4.All people on earth get the chance to hear good music....
I think it is illegal 100% but moraly ok 100%......

1. Cheap bastard!

2. You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, and you obviously don't know many creative artists in any medium. Having been a professional musician and aspiring singer-songwriter, I can tell you for a fact, most are not bathing in champagne. In fact, for an artist, being good is just permission to be lucky.

3. You still don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

4. I see. So you think the people who create all that great music should flip burgers all day so they can run home and play all night to entertain you. You get to suck up their creative work, but you don't think they've earned anything for creating it.

Conclusion -- YOU'RE A SCUM SUCKING LOWLIFE ASSHOLE! :|