Do you think polygamy should be legalized?

[Muse]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Muse
I don't know if polygamy should be legalized but I'm all in favor of 5 18-year-old hotties in my bedroom at once giving me the attention I deserve! 😀

What are the guy's names, in this fantasy? Adam, Mark, Stephen, etc.?

Ah, more like Sandra, Katie, Cathy, Deedee, Barbara and Doreen. Oh, that's 6, but who's counting? Actually, the names are immaterial but my sex trips involve females.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Hay that poll is interesting . Its also saying alot about some people here. I voted no 2 times.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect. Not one of my friends have divorced. None in Our combined families has Divorced. My mom came from a family of 15 . My dad a family of 8 . None have divorced. no children no grand children NO one has divorced. Living in Christ has its rewards.

What about simulated cannibalism, where you actually get to eat Christ?

I thought they been doing that for 2000 years. Simulated.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect. Not one of my friends have divorced. None in Our combined families has Divorced. My mom came from a family of 15 . My dad a family of 8 . My wifes family has 8 children Mine has 5. My wifes mom has 10 in her family . My wifes Dad 2 He be native American . None have divorced. no children no grand children NO one has divorced. I be 56 years and tired. Living in Christ has its rewards.

Okay lets try this again. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage. Not some story about your family tree. 😕

 

[JD50]

This is really fun watching some of the pro gay marriage folks mak some of the same kinds of arguments that anti gay marriage people make.

 

[Kadarin]

I'm ok with gay marriage, polygamy, and any other combination wherein all parties are consenting adults. I do not believe that it's the government's place to dictate what people can and should do with their sexuality, as long as no one is forced to do anything against their will.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect. Not one of my friends have divorced. None in Our combined families has Divorced. My mom came from a family of 15 . My dad a family of 8 . My wifes family has 8 children Mine has 5. My wifes mom has 10 in her family . My wifes Dad 2 He be native American . None have divorced. no children no grand children NO one has divorced. I be 56 years and tired. Living in Christ has its rewards.

If 56 years of living in Christ is where you learned how to formulate coherent thoughts in English, I'm taking up Satan worship.

But in response to your udderly retarded post, my mothers were happily together for over 20 years before one of them died of breast cancer. In that time they raised two sons to adulthood. In my family tree, both of my mothers had a prior marriage which ended in divorce, one because of rampant spousal abuse. Of my nine aunts and uncles, one is a lesbian (so she's precluded from the marriage talk), and at least 3 have had one marriage end in divorce (two of these from spouse abuse); all are happily remarried. So in terms of gay marriage, you have one couple who were together til death did them part; in terms of straight marriage, you have 3 cases of spousal abuse and two more divorces out of ten marriages. Obviously this ridiculously small sample size confirms that heterosexual marriage is a blight on this country, with nearly a third of straight marriages suffering from spousal abuse and half ending in divorce. Homosexuals, on the other hand, stay together for life.

See, I can counter your individual experience with my own and arrive at an opposite conclusion. Do you see why what you've presented is a stupid, stupid, stupid argument?

 

[Nemesis 1]

OK Family fued . The nunber 1 ans is

Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect.

My wife is setting in her chair . Reminding me of cousin Randy . Divorced. 30 uears ago . DAM . Forgot him . But he is from Alaska . So that could explain it.

She complements you guys on this thread. AS she rolls on side in pain from laughter.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect. Not one of my friends have divorced. None in Our combined families has Divorced. My mom came from a family of 15 . My dad a family of 8 . My wifes family has 8 children Mine has 5. My wifes mom has 10 in her family . My wifes Dad 2 He be native American . None have divorced. no children no grand children NO one has divorced. I be 56 years and tired. Living in Christ has its rewards.

If 56 years of living in Christ is where you learned how to formulate coherent thoughts in English, I'm taking up Satan worship.

But in response to your udderly retarded post, my mothers were happily together for over 20 years before one of them died of breast cancer. In that time they raised two sons to adulthood. In my family tree, both of my mothers had a prior marriage which ended in divorce, one because of rampant spousal abuse. Of my nine aunts and uncles, one is a lesbian (so she's precluded from the marriage talk), and at least 3 have had one marriage end in divorce (two of these from spouse abuse); all are happily remarried. So in terms of gay marriage, you have one couple who were together til death did them part; in terms of straight marriage, you have 3 cases of spousal abuse and two more divorces out of ten marriages. Obviously this ridiculously small sample size confirms that heterosexual marriage is a blight on this country, with nearly a third of straight marriages suffering from spousal abuse and half ending in divorce. Homosexuals, on the other hand, stay together for life.

See, I can counter your individual experience with my own and arrive at an opposite conclusion. Do you see why what you've presented is a stupid, stupid, stupid argument?

Is that the best you can do =fail Sorry to hear about your family tho. Thats sad. I can see were it might unbalance ya. I have a gay brother. I have no problems with him . He knows were I stand . But he is brother and I treat him as such.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'm ok with gay marriage, polygamy, and any other combination wherein all parties are consenting adults. I do not believe that it's the government's place to dictate what people can and should do with their sexuality, as long as no one is forced to do anything against their will.

Well, this is not exactly about the government telling people what to do. It's about whether marriage is extended in scope from the traditional man+woman scenario. Myself, it seems to me that the government is getting kind of nosy when they take a peak in your pants. Polygamy I have more issues with. What is marriage, anyway? Isn't it a legal institution? A question of whether a certain pair (OK, in this thread maybe a group) of people are entitled to the benefits accorded to "married" people? Personally, never having been married I am not particularly acquainted with what those are. But isn't that what this comes down to?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Is that the best you can do =fail Sorry to hear about your family tho. Thats sad. I can see were it might unbalance ya.

If you can form one single English sentence without an error in grammar or spelling, I will completely change my tune on gay marriage. Until then, I get the impression I'm having an argument with a broken See 'n Say, so I won't bother with logic.

The cow says... moooooo.

 

[Nemesis 1]

And a jackass goes. HEE! HAW!

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
And a jackass goes. HEE! HAW!

A for spelling.
D for grammar.

 

[TridenT]

Just because your entire family has never had a divorce doesn't mean it can't happen. 🙂

I would like to see one benefit from marriage all together. I personally don't believe marriage should be legal at all, for anyone. Fuck marriage. If you love someone and want to be with them forever you don't need marriage to prove that.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect. Not one of my friends have divorced. None in Our combined families has Divorced. My mom came from a family of 15 . My dad a family of 8 . My wifes family has 8 children Mine has 5. My wifes mom has 10 in her family . My wifes Dad 2 He be native American . None have divorced. no children no grand children NO one has divorced. I be 56 years and tired. Living in Christ has its rewards.

Man, will your face ever be red if you die and find out the Jews were right.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: sandorski
Polygamy introduces many elements into Society that cause longterm problems:

1) Lack of Genetic Diversity. Probably the best reason to not allow it. A mentally and physically healthy Society needs to avoid this.

You're assuming that one man is going to have multiple wives who only bear his children. Hell, in today's world a man isn't guaranteed to have ONE wife to only bear his children. And a woman with multiple husbands can only have children so often. If anything, polygamy may assist the genetic strength of homo sapiens. Biologically, we've become somewhat genetically deficient. Due to political/economic/religous, etc reasons people who should not be procreating due to genetic flaws, are. Our modern medicine keeps people alive who should die and helps people reproduce who shouldn't. (1) Scientists say that humanity has reached a point where we have ceased to evolve. Maybe that's our own damn fault...

2) Changes the Social Order. The Wealthy will become Babe Magnets, literally. A Sub-Culture of Men may form unable to attract a Mate. This will cause conflict within Society which will often result in violence and some of that violence could be widespread.(latter part is rather over dramatic, but violent tendancy will increase).

The 'wealthy' won't be babe magnets, (2)the genetically superior will. Overall though, if spouses in the plurality are allowed to leave a marriage at will, the balance should not be tipped in favor (or against) either sex. The only reason you can observe the 'lost boys' of existing polygamist societies is because the wives are NOT allowed free will. Current polygamists get it wrong by using arranged marriage.

3) In a Modern Prosperous Society, there really is no good reasons why Polygamy is a Benefit to Society. So why have it at all?

This is true only if you believe 'polygamy' means 'Fundamentalist LDS'.

1) Source

2) Who determines Genetic Superiority and why would that motivate those seeking a Mate?

1. Source

2. http://www.scribd.com/doc/3049...y-and-Sexual-Selection">Source</a>

Mates determine what is Genetically Superior. It's hardwired into their brains.

1) 1 Genetecist? You have used too many "s" when typing "Scientist".
2) Link no work

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: sandorski
The only women in numbers who are interested in such an arrangement were raised to think that it's is Normal. They were also raised to think of themselves as Lesser than Men.

That's just ignorant, and untrue. I've seen and read interviews with intelligent, independent women in polygamous relationships, and these women neither consider themselves "lesser" to men nor exploited in the relationship. One was even an MD! In fact, the women had considerable control within their family structure. For example, it was the women, and not the man, who decided who was going to be in the man's bed that night - he had no say, and if he didn't like it, there was always the couch.

Negative. It is so ingrained to them, they truly Think they are equal. However, they are exploited and conditioned from Birth to be Lesser.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Just because your entire family has never had a divorce doesn't mean it can't happen. 🙂

I would like to see one benefit from marriage all together. I personally don't believe marriage should be legal at all, for anyone. Fuck marriage. If you love someone and want to be with them forever you don't need marriage to prove that.

You have a point. But life is hard. A man has got to do what a man must do. Marriage is a commentment to your wife/husband. and Childern .
Divorce assumes there was no love to start with. It also shows a short courtship . Were as the 2 parties in question really didn't know one to the other. There for a true bonding never occurred.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: sandorski
The only women in numbers who are interested in such an arrangement were raised to think that it's is Normal. They were also raised to think of themselves as Lesser than Men.

That's just ignorant, and untrue. I've seen and read interviews with intelligent, independent women in polygamous relationships, and these women neither consider themselves "lesser" to men nor exploited in the relationship. One was even an MD! In fact, the women had considerable control within their family structure. For example, it was the women, and not the man, who decided who was going to be in the man's bed that night - he had no say, and if he didn't like it, there was always the couch.

Negative. It is so ingrained to them, they truly Think they are equal. However, they are exploited and conditioned from Birth to be Lesser.

bigot.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

Years and years of a couple growing together raising a family. Its a great life in that respect. Not one of my friends have divorced. None in Our combined families has Divorced. My mom came from a family of 15 . My dad a family of 8 . My wifes family has 8 children Mine has 5. My wifes mom has 10 in her family . My wifes Dad 2 He be native American . None have divorced. no children no grand children NO one has divorced. I be 56 years and tired. Living in Christ has its rewards.

Man, will your face ever be red if you die and find out the Jews were right.

No I have given that a very hard look . SO I concerned myself only with the reported words of Christ. I see no contridictions . and his demands are more than reasoniable.

I have also looked hard at the Jews. But There is something wrong.

The God of Moses did all his own killing. Jews didn't kill anyone. Somewhere along the line a Holy man . Started doing GODs killing for him . Hugh contrast.

1) Moses GOD . Iam that I am . DID his own killing .
2) Later holy men started doing Gods killing for him . I really don't think my LORDS LORD needed to test man by telling them to Kill . Infact It goes against 1 of the 10 commandments . Iam that I am gave to Moses. Surely God would not tell men to kill.

So that means someone is lying. Guess which one.

So I can easily find fault in the jewish belief. Not saying all holy men done this. But a couple sneaked threw the crack. Than we have the biggest of all mysteries . Enoch. They just didn't want this message from GOD. But Enoch surely was favored by God. But his was not the choosen bloodline . Enter Noah. Than for the Jews to reject enoch much like they did Christ shows the men of power feared the words of Enoch just as they did Christ . Enoch lived at adams time . He also survived the flood. Without the ARK.

HE also new how to write. Noah must not have . Because everthing in holy scripture up to Moses was writen by MOSES. So who ya going to believe an eye witness. One of 2. Or the guy who wrote down hand me down stories.

The choice is easy . But the jews always had problems making the right decision. Read their history . One stupid move after another.

Reject the trueth and embrace some nice campfire stories . Enoch is the first ever to talk about the Elect. Very special man whom GOD loved and protected.

 

[piasabird]

In Muslim countries a man can have up to 4 wives. This is probably practiced in the USA now even though it is illegal.

The problem with polygamy is that men tend to want to abuse this kind of a system. Some people will use this system as a way to abuse women and children. Some of these FLDS people are abusing this as a means to marry a 16 year old girl and then when she gets too old they go out and find a new 16 year old girl. Next thing you know male children of of less worth.

In the old testament a man was not suppose to marry a second wife without the permission of the first wife. Often this was the case when the first wife was not able to have children. Of course they had servants back then too and the wife often would just say have children with my handmaid. In a way it makes sense that this might be a way to have children when the woman is unable to. Another tradition was to marry your brothers wife and raise children to be your brother's offspring after he died.

The world is a little bit different now. However, the nature of many men is to abuse their power as soon as they attain it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: sandorski
The only women in numbers who are interested in such an arrangement were raised to think that it's is Normal. They were also raised to think of themselves as Lesser than Men.

That's just ignorant, and untrue. I've seen and read interviews with intelligent, independent women in polygamous relationships, and these women neither consider themselves "lesser" to men nor exploited in the relationship. One was even an MD! In fact, the women had considerable control within their family structure. For example, it was the women, and not the man, who decided who was going to be in the man's bed that night - he had no say, and if he didn't like it, there was always the couch.

Negative. It is so ingrained to them, they truly Think they are equal. However, they are exploited and conditioned from Birth to be Lesser.

bigot.

huh?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

One benefit of both, if the marriage works, is a stable, established, and loving home for raising children, and one that tends to be far more economically viable and advantaged than most single parent (often a female trying to re-enter the workforce at an advanced age) households.

Marriage is the generational glue. Most of who you are came from your home upbringing. No one is more apt to love you more unreservedly than your parents.

Straight or gay, that is one benefit of marriage.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

One benefit of both, if the marriage works, is a stable, established, and loving home for raising children, and one that tends to be far more economically viable and advantaged than most single parent (often a female trying to re-enter the workforce at an advanced age) households.

Marriage is the generational glue. Most of who you are came from your home upbringing. No one is more apt to love you more unreservedly than your parents.

Straight or gay, that is one benefit of marriage.

So polygamous don't love their children? Yep, you're a bigot. You're just too blind and stupid to see it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Now give 1 benefit of gay marriage.

You first. Give 1 benefit of straight marriage.

One benefit of both, if the marriage works, is a stable, established, and loving home for raising children, and one that tends to be far more economically viable and advantaged than most single parent (often a female trying to re-enter the workforce at an advanced age) households.

Marriage is the generational glue. Most of who you are came from your home upbringing. No one is more apt to love you more unreservedly than your parents.

Straight or gay, that is one benefit of marriage.

So polygamous don't love their children? Yep, you're a bigot. You're just too blind and stupid to see it.

Kind of a Strawman given they are not discussing Polygamy.