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Fausto

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Originally posted by: sward666
I have a friend who likes to slip the word into casual conversation, purely for shock value. He's kind of a dick that way.

His name is dick!?! I am very offended by that.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: sward666
I have a friend who likes to slip the word into casual conversation, purely for shock value. He's kind of a dick that way.

It only shocks the uneducated & ignorant, sounds fine to me.

We should not have to tailor our vocabulary to match that of an idiot.

Viper GTS
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: sward666
I have a friend who likes to slip the word into casual conversation, purely for shock value. He's kind of a dick that way.

It only shocks the uneducated & ignorant, sounds fine to me.

We should not have to tailor our vocabulary to match that of an idiot.

Viper GTS

Amen to that.

 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
I'm guessing Ms. Walker isn't white. As it says


William Whalen, whose daughter also is in Ms. Bell's class, said he thinks the situation has been blown out of proportion. Mr. Whalen is white.

Note:

"My daughter told me what that word was, and I told her not to complete that part of her homework," said Ms. Walker, who is black.

You are a genius.

Viper GTS

<---passes a passes a chocolat.......mean't brownish cocoa derivative chip cookie to Lunotick(don't want to offend anyone)


This happened in Wilmington as well, a couple hours from me.....Help the PC crowd is invading NC....
 

tigerbait

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: sward666
I have a friend who likes to slip the word into casual conversation, purely for shock value. He's kind of a dick that way.

It only shocks the uneducated & ignorant, sounds fine to me.

We should not have to tailor our vocabulary to match that of an idiot.

Viper GTS

well said
 

Draco

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: sward666
I have a friend who likes to slip the word into casual conversation, purely for shock value. He's kind of a dick that way.

It only shocks the uneducated & ignorant, sounds fine to me.

We should not have to tailor our vocabulary to match that of an idiot.

Viper GTS

Amen to that.


Well put. mmmm this makes me mad.

 

LemonHead

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My daughter told me what that word was, and I told her not to complete that part of her homework," said Ms. Walker, who is black.

It's crap like this that makes me worry how many friggin' irrational, narrowminded, innately stupid, morons we have in this world!

:|

People like this should not breed!
 

rickn

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I've never even heard that word used before, well not with the "dly" on the end of it. So I really don't care.
 

Vette73

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I live in Wilmington NC where this took place. The school board and the Admin. of the school system are such morons here (I know I went through it).

This is one of the reasons NC schools suck so much is we are so afraid to hurt someones feeling, and we need to spend more money on how we can get the 10 Commandments and religious stuff inschool we just don't have the time or money to, what was our job again, oh yea TEACH!!!!!!!

So basicly we are telling teachers play it safe, NO TEACHING IN NC!!!!

The College in Wilmington ( UNCW ) is good, but ALL the public schools SUCK!!!!
 

Linflas

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Good to see that ignorance is not restricted to Washington DC. They went through a crisis with the word niggardly about 4 years ago and the guy that used the word actually ended up having to resign his position. Nice that we have come to a point where having a good vocabulary can be considered offensive.
 

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I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person).

I'd have to agree with that. I've never heard that word used casually in a coversation, and if it was used in the presence of a black person, then you'd know damn well why they were using it.

 

Bulk Beef

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.
You are kidding, right?

 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.
Got a list of books you'd like burned, too?

Just to confirm your ignorance Niggardly Not one mention of "black person".
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.

YOU SIR ARE WRONG!!!

link for your information

Despite the similarity in spelling - and the huge controversy at the beginning of 1999 over its use by a member of the staff of the Mayor of Washington, DC - this word has no connection with great person. The adverb form niggardly was formed in the sixteenth century from niggard, the name for a miser or stingy person. In the Wycliffe Bible of 1384 it was spelt nygard; earlier still it can be found as nigon, and another form nig also existed. We are pretty sure this was borrowed from a Scandinavian source, because there are related words in several Germanic languages, for example, the Old Norse hn&oslash;gger, meaning "stingy".
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.

Damn, do you live in Wilmington too? Take a minute and do some digging for the etymology of both words in question here. You will find that the term "niggardly" predates the earliest usage of "n*gger" by a few hundred years and that they are in no way connected.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.

And how would you go about eradicating this particular word from the English language? I really want to know. Would you make it a crime to speak it? And in doing that, how would you not violate the most basic freedom, that of free speech, guaranteed to the American people? Any other words you don't like and that you feel government should crack down on? Would it make you feel better if we all began quacking like ducks? Would that be less offensive to your precious personal sentimentalities?
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Sophia

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning.

How is that obvious? These are different words with different origins in different language groups from different centuries.

niggard
Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse hn&oslash;ggr niggardly; akin to Old English hnEaw niggardly
Date: 14th century
: a meanly covetous and stingy person : MISER
- niggard adjective

n***er (racial slur)
Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger
Date: 1700

Edit: Guess I was a little slow there :);)
 

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.

Woohoo, another moron!

The Barnhard Dictionary of Etymology traces the origins of "niggardly" to
the 1300s and the words nig and nigon, meaning miser, in Middle English. It
also notes possible earlier origins in languages including Old Icelandic,
Old English and Middle High German. There is no mention of any racial
connotation.


From Here

Viper GTS
 

Jzero

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HELLO!

It's
NIGGARD
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WITH AN 'A' not an 'E'.

*sigh*

And if that wasn't enough to convince you, you could have used a dictionary like the rest of us did to look up the etymology.


I think the worst part is:
"One mother was offended because she took that word to mean something it didn't mean," he said. "Ms. Bell apologized. That was sufficient."

The teacher apologized? For TEACHING?! One of the rare teachers who actually CARES about what she's paid to do? And she has to apologize?
What did she say?
"I'm sorry you're a fVcking moron."

Let no good deed go unpunished. That's what I say. And they wonder why teachers are burnt out and apathetic.

Next thing you know they're boycotting the local Taqueria because NEGRO MODELO is RACIST BEER!
 

rickn

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umm. HELLO? Haven't you fvcking people ever heard of the word STINGY

Intrauterine is a word. I don't go around using it
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I personally think the word should be eradicated from the english language. You know exactly what it implies (niggardly like a black person). I mean its obvious that it came from a derogatory meaning. Besides who the hell even uses that word? I don't, there are plenty of other words i can use besides that.

And how would you like it if i made up a new word "beanerly" to describe those who can swim fast and jump borders. Or how bout "crackerly" to describe those with fat guts and trailer homes. I men would any of you have a conversation with a black person and use the word "niggardly". I think not, you'd be scared sh*tless to say it.

I wonder if she would have a problem hearing the actual N word is musical lyrics, hell go back to NWA...it is not Negroes with Attitudes you know..I don't see her complaining about Gangsta Rap and their portrayal of the glory of gunfights and disrespecting women

nig·gard·ly Pronunciation Key (ngrd-l)
adj.

1.Grudging and petty in giving or spending.
2.Meanly small; scanty or meager: left the waiter a niggardly tip.


niggard·li·ness n.
niggard·ly adv.


Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.




niggardly

\Nig"gard*ly\, a. Meanly covetous or avarcious in dealing with others; stingy; niggard.

Where the owner of the house will be bountiful, it is not for the steward to be niggardly. --Bp. Hall.

Syn: Avarcious; covetous; parsimonious; sparing; miserly; penurios; sordid; stingy. See Avaricious.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.




niggardly

\Nig"gard*ly\, adv. In a niggard manner.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.




niggardly

adj : petty in giving or spending; "a niggardly tip" [syn: grudging, scrimy]
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University


Show me exactly, where that mentions a person of African American descent?

Let's ban billiards too, because it's just another white mans attempt at maintaining their superiority over the black man...The white ball is in charge and it has to knock all the "colored" balls off the table, the red, the yellows, and finally it all boils down to the 8 ball(black no less)...the whole point of the game is knocking the colored balls around with a white ball...why not come up with a black cue ball and a white 8 ball for political correctness

Why do they call it black balling?
Why do bad guys wear black and godd guys wear white?
Why are black cats bad luck?

Who cares? Get way over it... The sooner we forget color when it comes to races is the sooner we get to true equality

Black cat is bad luck, bad guys wear black
Musta been a white guy who started all that
(Make the Gas Face!) For those little white lies
My expression to the mountainous blue eyes
Then form a face, and shake my skull cap
Dismiss the myth, that evil is not black
but opposite spectrum, this done by red man
with horns on his head, laid down the ill plan
Got all his helpers, said, "Make it snappy!
Tell all the people that their hair can't be nappy!"
Blonde and blue-eyed, or dark-skinned half a G
A disease, created by leprosy
Don't speak of bleach, bend them to right
Say, "It was night WAY before the light"
Put aside spooks, Serch leaves a trace
I've set em correct with the effect of the Gas Face

I've used the expression niggardly and niggar-rigged in front of blacks and no I did not get beat down. It's all about intent to cause harm, just about anything said in a malicious way can cause harm. Giving the definition from a dictionary is not intending harm...being ignorant and petty is.