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Red Dawn

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That's fine and dandy; I'm not fond of religions zealots either, but for those who aren't, lay off on them!
??? I give those like Paltroll a hard time but other than that I'm just expressing my opinion.
 

docmanhattan

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Netopia, you are wrong about me knowing the answer. I am quite confused. MrPALCO says that God has always been alive but the world is 6000 years old and some stuff about realms, and now you're saying there was no time. 'Always' as in always been alive, sure sounds like time to me. So was God doing other stuff or was there no time or what? Was time ticking somewhere else before here?

moonbeam

for someone who usually waxes philosophical at great lengths, you show surprisingly little amounts of creative thinking in this post. ;)

Without niggling too much on details...

Our perception of time or the 'passing' of time is something that we measure based on the changes that occur around us. We say that time is passed because when the wind blows through the air and causes leaves to blow on the tree above us, we percieve a change in the way the tree looks to us. The leaves appear to move. We look at our watches and see the second-hand ticking around the face and it says that 60 "seconds" have passed. Yet "seconds" are a manmade concept that we applied to the world around us and seem to work for the most part because our observations tell us so. But even that has to be corrected every four years. Einsteins theories, however, suggest that time passes differently if you're speeding away from the planet at the speed of light. Now why is that? How is it that time can pass differently in differently places? Would you notice the passage of "time" if there was no change? Would there even be time if there was not change?

Someone here with a better understanding of quantum physics, i'm sure, can explain special relativity and distance-time theory better than i ever could, but my point is that 'time' as we know it is not immutable. Even within the the way we define time, to say that we partially understand it is to be more than generous.

so i would say that the word 'always' should be understood as 'perpetually' and as something that exists outside the scope of what we define as 'time'


:confused: i don't think i made a lick of sense... :confused:
 

MrPALCO

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The physical universe that we live in had a beginning some 6000 years ago and it has a set moment when it will be recreated.

The gap between the beginning and the set point when recreation takes place divided into quantifiable units is........TIME


Keep in mind that parallel universes -- that you do not have access to -- have their own TIME. This TIME may have no begining and no end.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
The physical universe that we live in had a beginning some 6000 years ago and it has a set moment when it will be recreated.

The gap between the beginning and the set point when recreation takes place divided into quantifiable units is........TIME


Keep in mind that parallel universes -- that you do not have access to -- have their own TIME. This TIME may have no begining and no end.

You were building credibility until you included parallel universes
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nik
 

glen

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
The physical universe that we live in had a beginning some 6000 years ago and it has a set moment when it will be recreated.

The gap between the beginning and the set point when recreation takes place divided into quantifiable units is........TIME

I sat next to someone smoking bowls on a ski lift in Utah who said the same thing!
Must be true.
 

Netopia

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Moonbeam,

You really DO understand... but I understand the point you are trying to make. BTW... I find it rather impossible to accurately communicate about the state of something that is outside of time because we have no words for it.

Joe
 

MrPALCO

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In the Spirit, all realms and their corresponding TIMES can be accessed.


Gods realm had no beginning. TIME in Gods realm can be quantified like our own, except that it is infinite in the forward and the back.


The language of man is limited in order to protect the earth until the time. The language that God gives allows the Just to access the Truth.
 

lebe0024

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TIMES blah blah blah Language blah blah Just blah blah blah Truth.

Did I miss something? HONK HONK
 

fatbaby

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
In the Spirit, all realms and their corresponding TIMES can be accessed.


Gods realm had no beginning. TIME in Gods realm can be quantified like our own, except that it is infinite in the forward and the back.


The language of man is limited in order to protect the earth until the time. The language that God gives allows the Just to access the Truth.

And you are pulling this from where?
 

Netopia

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TIME in Gods realm can be quantified like our own, except that it is infinite in the forward and the back.
I don't think so, otherwise referring to Himself as I AM would not be totally true since He would have a past and a future also.

Joe
 

MrPALCO

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I AM


Is God describing his position in TIME (past - present - future) with that name?


Here is the name:

I am Love.
I am Kindness.
I am Wisdom.
I am Protection.
I am Wealth.
I am Peace.




I AM ................ anything you need me to be.