Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Netopia, you are wrong about me knowing the answer. I am quite confused. MrPALCO says that God has always been alive but the world is 6000 years old and some stuff about realms, and now you're saying there was no time. 'Always' as in always been alive, sure sounds like time to me. So was God doing other stuff or was there no time or what? Was time ticking somewhere else before here?
moonbeam
for someone who usually waxes philosophical at great lengths, you show surprisingly little amounts of creative thinking in this post.
Without niggling too much on details...
Our perception of time or the 'passing' of time is something that we measure based on the changes that occur around us. We say that time is passed because when the wind blows through the air and causes leaves to blow on the tree above us, we percieve a change in the way the tree looks to us. The leaves appear to move. We look at our watches and see the second-hand ticking around the face and it says that 60 "seconds" have passed. Yet "seconds" are a manmade concept that we applied to the world around us and seem to work for the most part because our observations tell us so. But even that has to be corrected every four years. Einsteins theories, however, suggest that time passes differently if you're speeding away from the planet at the speed of light. Now why is that? How is it that time can pass differently in differently places? Would you notice the passage of "time" if there was no change? Would there even be time if there was not change?
Someone here with a better understanding of quantum physics, i'm sure, can explain special relativity and distance-time theory better than i ever could, but my point is that 'time' as we know it is not immutable. Even within the the way we define time, to say that we partially understand it is to be more than generous.
so i would say that the word 'always' should be understood as 'perpetually' and as something that exists outside the scope of what we define as 'time'

i don't think i made a lick of sense...
