Do you think there were ever living dinosaurs on Earth?
Could you provide us with a brief timeline of this theory?
Do you think there were ever living dinosaurs on Earth?
Could you provide us with a brief timeline of this theory?
Any *real* Christian will not believe in evolution, numbnuts. You obviously don't know your Bible. Any Christian who believes in evolution is... how did you say... "misguided" in their own religion.
Care to point out in the Bible where evolution is described and depicted as the begining of time? And, after that, care to prove that you don't have to believe the *whole* Bible, only parts of it, to be a Christian?
...idiots.
nik
It's called Evolutionary Creationism. It says that God sparked the beginning, then sat back and watched it all develop on it's own. And, yes, it's totally ignorant.
nik
BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 
I knew there was a reason that I stayed out of threads like this... there are idiots on both sides of the fence, and they all come out to play in the big kid's yard in threads like these
I should have read the entire thread before I replied at all.
nik
I knew there was a reason that I stayed out of threads like this... there are idiots on both sides of the fence, and they all come out to play in the big kid's yard in threads like these
I should have read the entire thread before I replied at all.
nik
Most come from Kent Hovind's Creation Seminar series Fond here. Namely the all the so-called hard proof that is suppose to validate the earth being billions of years old, can easily be explained by one world-wide flood. The flood theory also describe how many things could have happened that can not be easily (if at all) explained by geologists who believe the earth is billions of years old (bent rock layers, fossil graveyards, and poly-strata fossils, petrified clams in the closed position, ect). So logically, if the world isn't billions of years old, then macro-evolution really can't be true.
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I knew there was a reason that I stayed out of threads like this... there are idiots on both sides of the fence, and they all come out to play in the big kid's yard in threads like these
I should have read the entire thread before I replied at all.
nik
hows the view up there?
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Any *real* Christian will not believe in evolution, numbnuts. You obviously don't know your Bible. Any Christian who believes in evolution is... how did you say... "misguided" in their own religion.
Care to point out in the Bible where evolution is described and depicted as the begining of time? And, after that, care to prove that you don't have to believe the *whole* Bible, only parts of it, to be a Christian?
...idiots.
nik
And here we have it again. Another "so called" Christian thinking that he has the right to pass judgement on someone else. I don't remember reading the part in the bible that says "nik gets to choose who is a Christian and who isn't". I know several Christians who believe that their god created the earth and everything evolved from that time. The bible sure doesn't refute this idea, but I guess you can because you're special
Funny that you often call other people "idiots" when you exemplify the word with nearly every post you make.
My point was that their number (most people believe there were 3) is not known, not that their existance wasnt mentioned.
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Ahhhh
Gotcha now. Methinks there would be more than three, simply because caravans were fair sized. Dont want to speculate too much where there is lack of knowlege though.
Someone better tell this to all of the Native Americans and the 3 billion Asians. For some reason they don't have any record of being completely wiped out by a flood and you'd think that is something they would remember. The silly Chinese seem to think the Yangshao developed rice-harvesting 7000 years ago; I'll get on the phone and tell them that this guy in Florida has proven they are wrong.
edit: When were the dinosaurs alive??
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I am a Catholic myself, and I'm not sure where I stand...the Catholic Church has no official stance on Creationism/Evolution, IIRC.
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Honestly, I don't think it really matters a whole lot - IMO, whether you believe in Creation or Evolution isn't really going to affect your eternal destination.
Not to go OT, but one thing I do wonder...of Protestants who don't believe in a literal 6-day creation, why do you not take "This is My Body" literally? No attempt to spark a flame war..that's an honest question
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Honestly, I don't think it really matters a whole lot - IMO, whether you believe in Creation or Evolution isn't really going to affect your eternal destination.
Not to go OT, but one thing I do wonder...of Protestants who don't believe in a literal 6-day creation, why do you not take "This is My Body" literally? No attempt to spark a flame war..that's an honest question
I want to know where they fit into the 6000 Year timeline. As noone responded to my previos question: "When were the dinosaurs alive??"
Science attempts to prove the time line through various means, but even the scientist do not agree.
We do not know.
No problem, I found the answer here: www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=faq&specific=27 at a site quoted earlier in the thread.
"Dinosaurs were made the sixth day with the rest of the animals. Noah took them on the ark (probably young ones). They have always lived with man. After the flood many died from the climate changes and from man's hunting. They were called dragons for many centuries. (The word dinosaur was just invented in 1841.) A few small dinosaurs may still be alive today in remote parts of the world. There have been over 20,000 reported sightings of dinosaur like creatures in this century"
..and from the page for the tape:
"Watch this tape to see interviews with people who claim they've seen living dinosaurs."
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Well, since I am more and more inclined to believe the past is in a continual state of flux, whatever I believe now will have already changed an infinite number of times.
Well of course, evolution has to be true because the Pope doesn't have a problem with it. Since he's Christian number one and infallable in religious matters, that's the end of the story.
this argument is going nowhere fast. But here is what I have to say anyway. America is NOT a christian state i.e there are other religions and therefore christians cannot dictate what is taught in schools. Ohya, I learned that not everything I was told or read was true when I turned 4. Its time some people caught up. I can believe in god even if some of the teachings of my religion are absurd, why can't eveyone else? Lastly and definately most importantly, why can't people let their children pick what is real for themselves?
Rant over
PS. If you don't like what I have to say then I don't need to hear about it.
Rant over
PS. If you don't like what I have to say then I don't need to hear about it.
spanner Question:
I can believe in god even if some of the teachings of my religion are absurd, why can't you?
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I gave an answer earlier as follows so you don't have to look it up:
glen, My own thinking on why the literacy trip is that people have various kinds of experiences that give the impression they have had a personal experience with God. The experience has by its very nature a compelling certainty. Such people, after a fashion, know God is real. And they not only know that God is real, the experiences are very often life transforming and incredibly for the better. Once you know how profoundly effective and vital such a transformation is, you will defend it with your life. There is no certainty like personal experience. But since most people are culturally isolated and know little about the teachings and religions of others, then come quite naturally to take their own tradition with extra seriousness. If you read the Bible, judging from what I see from Christians, they get the impression that it's a narrow path and only path and so on, so they take everything as seriously as possible. When somebody gives you a treasure map to a gold mine and you find the gold, you don't want any changes to the treasure map. But there are a million maps to the same treasure, or as one adept put it. "There are a million paths in life and they all lead nowhere. Choose a path that has a heart."
Mulla Nasrudin was out walking with a student when an enlightened one approached and pointed to the sky. (There is one truth and it covers all). He is a madman thought the student. The Mulla, who was carrying a rope held it up. (And ordinary people try to reach it by means as ridiculous as climbing into the sky by a rope.) Good thought the student. If he tries anything funny the Mulla has warned him we will tie him up.
I can believe in god even if some of the teachings of my religion are absurd, why can't you?
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I gave an answer earlier as follows so you don't have to look it up:
glen, My own thinking on why the literacy trip is that people have various kinds of experiences that give the impression they have had a personal experience with God. The experience has by its very nature a compelling certainty. Such people, after a fashion, know God is real. And they not only know that God is real, the experiences are very often life transforming and incredibly for the better. Once you know how profoundly effective and vital such a transformation is, you will defend it with your life. There is no certainty like personal experience. But since most people are culturally isolated and know little about the teachings and religions of others, then come quite naturally to take their own tradition with extra seriousness. If you read the Bible, judging from what I see from Christians, they get the impression that it's a narrow path and only path and so on, so they take everything as seriously as possible. When somebody gives you a treasure map to a gold mine and you find the gold, you don't want any changes to the treasure map. But there are a million maps to the same treasure, or as one adept put it. "There are a million paths in life and they all lead nowhere. Choose a path that has a heart."
Mulla Nasrudin was out walking with a student when an enlightened one approached and pointed to the sky. (There is one truth and it covers all). He is a madman thought the student. The Mulla, who was carrying a rope held it up. (And ordinary people try to reach it by means as ridiculous as climbing into the sky by a rope.) Good thought the student. If he tries anything funny the Mulla has warned him we will tie him up.
Here is one or two things to ponder.
The bible holds the record for the most books sold. It is also the most re-written book in the world. There for common sence would tell us that each time it has been re-written it was intrepreted a little differently each time accoring to the century and the believes of said time period. Therefor nothing in the bible can or should be taken "for gospel".
There are those that beleive that the catholic church is not the true religion but a remnant of the old religion that was in control at the time of christ and the roman empire. Seeing that christianity was taking over they "swiched sides" so to speek. Thus regaining control of the masses. The true beleavers are said to be the Knight's templer order.
The bible holds the record for the most books sold. It is also the most re-written book in the world. There for common sence would tell us that each time it has been re-written it was intrepreted a little differently each time accoring to the century and the believes of said time period. Therefor nothing in the bible can or should be taken "for gospel".
There are those that beleive that the catholic church is not the true religion but a remnant of the old religion that was in control at the time of christ and the roman empire. Seeing that christianity was taking over they "swiched sides" so to speek. Thus regaining control of the masses. The true beleavers are said to be the Knight's templer order.
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