Do you believe in a god?

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JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
OP just because you were given the looks of a 12yo boy doesn't mean there is no God. I believe there is one and he is laughing hysterically.

And proof is clearly in the way how God made OP look.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

Dictionaries don't define words, genius. They record word usage. There is nothing invalid about the definition I supplied in the example of pantheism. It is no less valid than the "dictionary definition," in any case.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

Dictionaries don't define words, genius. They record word usage. There is nothing invalid about the definition I supplied in the example of pantheism. It is no less valid than the "dictionary definition," in any case.

It is invalid though. It's like me calling you a piece of shit, and it meaning you are a piece of plutonium. Shit=/=Plutonium.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

Dictionaries don't define words, genius. They record word usage. There is nothing invalid about the definition I supplied in the example of pantheism. It is no less valid than the "dictionary definition," in any case.

It is invalid though. It's like me calling you a piece of shit, and it meaning you are a piece of plutonium. Shit=/=Plutonium.

It is obvious that you do not understand how definition works, nor the meaning and significance of the myriad types of theism. Please feel free to continue to demonstrate that this in fact the case, however.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

Dictionaries don't define words, genius. They record word usage. There is nothing invalid about the definition I supplied in the example of pantheism. It is no less valid than the "dictionary definition," in any case.

It is invalid though. It's like me calling you a piece of shit, and it meaning you are a piece of plutonium. Shit=/=Plutonium.

It is obvious that you do not understand how definition works, nor the meaning and significance of the myriad types of theism. Please feel free to continue to demonstrate that this in fact the case, however.

Just choose an option in the poll. -_-

Just say Yes, because you sound crazy enough.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

Dictionaries don't define words, genius. They record word usage. There is nothing invalid about the definition I supplied in the example of pantheism. It is no less valid than the "dictionary definition," in any case.

It is invalid though. It's like me calling you a piece of shit, and it meaning you are a piece of plutonium. Shit=/=Plutonium.

It is obvious that you do not understand how definition works, nor the meaning and significance of the myriad types of theism. Please feel free to continue to demonstrate that this in fact the case, however.

Just choose an option in the poll. -_-

Just say Yes, because you sound crazy enough.

Thank you for supplying yet another datum in support of my aforementioned conclusion.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

no, you just bit off more than you can chew. that's all.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Simple question

My answer: No.

It would seem like a simple question, but in reality the meaning of the word "God" is so slippery that it literally defies definition.

Take pantheism, for example. All That Is, is god. Do you believe that everything that exists, exists? I hope you do, but does that mean you believe in God? I doubt you feel like you do.

Not so simple anymore.

That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about dictionary definition of god. We are not talking about some crazy-ass whackos who try to make defined words fucked up.

no, you just bit off more than you can chew. that's all.

Not sure what that would mean. :-/ I just really don't have enough care in my person to really go on rambling about something that has no matter.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555


Everything I am saying is going over your head.

ACTION->REACTION

Both are a choice. You can choose to not react to an action.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/...skepticast11-23-05.mp3 You should listen about 11:20 in they start the interview with Tom W. Clark. They talk about naturalism and many other things. :) It's a long interview, but you may learn somethin'.
 
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SlitheryDee

I doubt there is one. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is complete disbelief, 5 is perfect agnosticism, and 10 is complete belief, I would put myself at about a 3. I recognize that there's no way I can know for sure, but I doubt that there is a God and live my life as though there is no God. I try to waste as little time as possible worrying about whether there is or is not a God these days as well.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I doubt there is one. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is complete disbelief, 5 is perfect agnosticism, and 10 is complete belief, I would put myself at about a 3. I recognize that there's no way I can know for sure, but I doubt that there is a God and live my life as though there is no God. I try to waste as little time as possible worrying about whether there is or is not a God these days as well.

That's why I wish everyone was agnostic/atheist. God doesn't matter. :)
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~ Stephen Roberts
 

CKent

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Aug 17, 2005
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You should combine the "no" and "not sure" answers, according to a few dimmer witted posters on this forum.
 
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I doubt there is one. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is complete disbelief, 5 is perfect agnosticism, and 10 is complete belief, I would put myself at about a 3. I recognize that there's no way I can know for sure, but I doubt that there is a God and live my life as though there is no God. I try to waste as little time as possible worrying about whether there is or is not a God these days as well.

That's why I wish everyone was agnostic/atheist. God doesn't matter. :)

To you god doesn't to the majority of the worlds population god does matter.

I'm fine with it as long as they keep it to themselves, ANYTHING that can help anyone better themselves or feel better is good in my book.

The problem arises when they want others to adjust to their beliefs.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I doubt there is one. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is complete disbelief, 5 is perfect agnosticism, and 10 is complete belief, I would put myself at about a 3. I recognize that there's no way I can know for sure, but I doubt that there is a God and live my life as though there is no God. I try to waste as little time as possible worrying about whether there is or is not a God these days as well.

That's why I wish everyone was agnostic/atheist. God doesn't matter. :)

To you god doesn't to the majority of the worlds population god does matter.

I'm fine with it as long as they keep it to themselves, ANYTHING that can help anyone better themselves or feel better is good in my book.

The problem arises when they want others to adjust to their beliefs.

It's not logical though. :-/ Believing in something supernatural. It doesn't promote intelligent behavior, I think.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say yes. Now let's watch as yet again ATOT tries to disprove an already illogical opinion with logical arguments. :) :beer:

<-------Deist
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I doubt there is one. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is complete disbelief, 5 is perfect agnosticism, and 10 is complete belief, I would put myself at about a 3. I recognize that there's no way I can know for sure, but I doubt that there is a God and live my life as though there is no God. I try to waste as little time as possible worrying about whether there is or is not a God these days as well.

That's why I wish everyone was agnostic/atheist. God doesn't matter. :)

To you god doesn't to the majority of the worlds population god does matter.

I'm fine with it as long as they keep it to themselves, ANYTHING that can help anyone better themselves or feel better is good in my book.

The problem arises when they want others to adjust to their beliefs.

It's not logical though. :-/ Believing in something supernatural. It doesn't promote intelligent behavior, I think.

The very definition of supernatural is that it defies nature, natural laws, and thus logic. It is above any real human perception. Granted we are all human, so we can never truly see from another perspective, but there are undoubtedly perspectives other than human logic.

To assume that the one human-made lens of logic is paramount is simply arrogant.
 

CKent

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Aug 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I doubt there is one. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is complete disbelief, 5 is perfect agnosticism, and 10 is complete belief, I would put myself at about a 3. I recognize that there's no way I can know for sure, but I doubt that there is a God and live my life as though there is no God. I try to waste as little time as possible worrying about whether there is or is not a God these days as well.

That's why I wish everyone was agnostic/atheist. God doesn't matter. :)

To you god doesn't to the majority of the worlds population god does matter.

I'm fine with it as long as they keep it to themselves, ANYTHING that can help anyone better themselves or feel better is good in my book.

The problem arises when they want others to adjust to their beliefs.

It's not logical though. :-/ Believing in something supernatural. It doesn't promote intelligent behavior, I think.

The very definition of supernatural is that it defies nature, natural laws, and thus logic. It is above any real human perception. Granted we are all human, so we can never truly see from another perspective, but there are undoubtedly perspectives other than human logic.

To assume that the one human-made lens of logic is paramount is simply arrogant.

You just said you're a deist? :confused: The "He who makes a decision is arrogant" argument is generally reserved for certain agnostic young boys who feel confident in their indecision. Certain godless astronomers who oddly ignore this thread... ;)
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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Yes I believe. Because if there was no God I would not be here right now. The fact that everything in the universe and on the earth (that we did not destroy yet) is so balanced and made prefect, shows that our existence is not just some freak accident from an explosion that happens out of nowhere with no substance or anything to even cause it. Santa Claus existing is more possible then the big bang theory. People who believe in that stuff are WAY too gullible.