Do we really need guns?

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Genx87

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Fuck, you righties get dumber by the day! Reading comprehension...get some!

I just explained to you why I need a gun. Not that I have a requirement to do so. Then showed your argument is backwards.

Now come back with another childish insult. That is the only talent you have on this board.
 

glenn1

Lifer
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Did you even bother reading my original post you dipshit? Of course you didn't because you saw the word no and then proved my point about gun nutters being irrational and pointless to talk to.

Of course I did. My response was as much for the OP and people who think like him as it was for you. You answered the rhetorical question about need and I gave a follow-up answer about his pondering about whether we should ban guns because of lack of "need." As if rights are premised on need - of course people don't *need* to vote or any other right and lack of need is completely beside the point.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Of course I did. My response was as much for the OP and people who think like him as it was for you. You answered the rhetorical question about need and I gave a follow-up answer about his pondering about whether we should ban guns because of lack of "need." As if rights are premised on need - of course people don't *need* to vote or any other right and lack of need is completely beside the point.


Sure, that's why when I said, in my very first post, that "need" isn't the issue nor was it a prerequisite, you then quoted me and said we should restrict abortions unless there is a need.

You are an idiot and liar, congrats!
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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I just explained to you why I need a gun. Not that I have a requirement to do so. Then showed your argument is backwards.

Now come back with another childish insult. That is the only talent you have on this board.

No you don't need a gun to defend yourself, are you saying no one has ever defended themselves without a gun? Of course you aren't and as I already stated, having the gun would be an easier way to defend yourself but that doesn't mean it's necessary.

But that's all besides the point because you stupid fucks didn't even bother to get past the word "no" before you went full retard.

I'll say it again, let's see if it penetrates your thick fucking skulls:

Guns have never been an issue about necessity nor has necessity been a requirement in order to have a gun.
 

highland145

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Thanks for the quote, glen, or I would have missed it. Proves my point about engrish teachers. Damned tarts.
When it's a tool it makes doing certain easier but it's not necessary.
Certain tools are certain.

Is there a gif for that?
 

DigDog

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OP makes new account, 1 post, inflamatory thread.

hours later the forum is still up in arms and has not noticed OP is gone forever.

latest
 

bradly1101

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To the weak of mind guns are addicting. Powerful they make one feel, therefore inevitable and unmovable they are.

Of course no one needs one, but have them 'they' must.

Edit: Thank god they're not easily obtained or dangerous in the hands of anyone who might be too angry, jealous, heartbroken, territorial or mentally disturbed!:colbert:
 
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werepossum

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Moonbeam

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I can imagine two worlds in which we can have no fear of gun violence. Imagine if you had a gun of such strong deterrence that everybody knew that if you attacked a person so armed, they would destroy the world. This would eliminate all threat except that of the criminally insane Or until one of them also got one.

Or imagine a world in which there were no guns and most spontaneous acts of violence happened with less effective weapons.
Choose your world,
 

Orignal Earl

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I can imagine two worlds in which we can have no fear of gun violence. Imagine if you had a gun of such strong deterrence that everybody knew that if you attacked a person so armed, they would destroy the world. This would eliminate all threat except that of the criminally insane Or until one of them also got one.

Or imagine a world in which there were no guns and most spontaneous acts of violence happened with less effective weapons.
Choose your world,

I live in a world full of guns, but no one ever thinks they need to take one outside to defend themselves from their fellow human beings
 

stormkroe

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Guns have never been an issue about necessity nor has necessity been a requirement in order to have a gun.

The*Second Amendment*of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Sorry I just found this unusually funny hehehe.
 

John Connor

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Do we really need guns? Don't you think there are too many crimes involving gun violence? Maybe it would be better to ban firearms completely? It's not like we really need guns for self-defense. I would only use a gun to protect myself only if a criminal had a gun too. It's pretty obviously that the number of gun involved crimes would decrease drastically if the criminals weren't be able to obtain guns legally.


Do we need a 1st Amendment?

You should read up on history. Particularly the third Reich.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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We don't need guns for personal use, no. The primary arguments for them are self defense and to overthrow the government or some such nonsense.

Studies show that guns don't make their owners more safe, so the first argument is unconvincing. The second argument of a citizen insurgency against the government I find laughable on its face.

I wish gun rights advocates would stop trying to invent reasons why we NEED guns and just admit that they WANT guns. Wanting guns is a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
 

glenn1

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Need vs. want is moot, that's not how rights work. Citizens aren't required to establish "need" for asserting the right to vote, free speech, not self-incriminate, etc. and you'd probably be pretty insulted if I asked you to do so. If you want proof, go up to a black person and ask them what their "need" is to not be enslaved and tell us how that goes. "Stop trying to invent reasons why you NEED to not be enslaved and just admit you don't WANT to be enslaved" would be a fun thing to say in a ghetto neighborhood.