Not terribly hard to figure that capability would lead to already understanding the situation.
Not terribly hard to figure that capability would lead to already understanding the situation.
Understanding and coming out with a different opinion is a perfectly valid option too.
Just as you believe that overthrowing slavers and eliminating all the whites is valid given your understanding of the situation. There are some that may understand the situation, and find that it was inappropriate.
Disagreement is not the basis for which you should judge someone's understanding.
"Hey this person I caged up and treated like an animal just stabbed me, guess that shows who da Real evil one, lol"
Did not realize that children were caging up slaves. Who knew that raping women and then cutting off their heads was the only way to stop slavery?
"Hey this person I caged up and treated like an animal just stabbed my kid too, guess that shows who da Real evil one, lol"
Keep telling yourself you da Real smart one.
See, you just now didn't understand. I'm not going to use that as a judgment on your intelligence, even though you both didn't understand, and didn't agree with me, but rather take the opportunity to think on how I could have presented it better.
operative word in my sentence on overthrowing the slaver was AND eliminating all the white's. If you still feel that way, there have been plenty of rebellions where the civilians of the opposing interest were not massacred. Do you disagree with those instances of mercy?
As opposed to characterizing the white slaver, why not instead characterize some smart person arguing for the massacre of the children? That might help educate those that don't understand better?
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At least I know how to write "4th grade English" and not "4rd grade english". At least I don't label the WHOLE race (white) as murderous. Who could be that stupid and racist? It was YOU!!!!! (in your own words)
At least I know how to post in the correct thread, unlike you. LOL.
No wonder other members called you out by your own words and action and your comeback line was labeling them as "klansman and friends", unable to dispute their assertions about you. How sad and pathetic. Losing face in public. What a sad sad wumao that you are. Go earn your 50 cents. I wouldn't pay you 5 cents.
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Oh look at that. So evil begets evil. Good thing evil was done to stop more evil, or else evil would be done. Flawless logic!
Tell me, what do you think of the Jews?
Would you say you're that much better at understanding things than this guy, or I guess the jews for that matter?:
Notice it was cast as an understandable situation. Read that carefully, esp. the part where it says understandable, and take some time to ponder whether you understand the situation.
Yeah, killing white slavers is understandable, sure. But it sure isn't noble or indicative of long-term thinking. This is more utopian thinking and fetishization of extremism and violence.
I'm not sure that is entirely understandable. These were civilians, women, children.
edit: better yet, upon some reading, even sympathetic French were killed? Is your argument still valid? Or do I just misunderstand that a French person in Haiti at the time simply can't understand enough to be sympathetic. So it's understandable for them to be killed.
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So they deserved it. Several thousand white men women and children put to death, regardless of their factual guilt or innocence. Because of their skin color.
And you again agree that this was a good thing?
No I don't. My only valid explanation is that he is confusing the rebellion with the massacre?
agent00f thinks its perfectly understandable if you understand it though.
It isn't that he thinks it is understandable so much as he likes the edginess of it and how he can righteously call for murder which is romantic and daring.
Show him a peaceful revolution and he doesn't notice it or he views it as a sellout. Some people really do just want to watch the world burn.
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agent00f. heh. How many times has he alluded to how much smarter he is than you?
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He wishes to pee on me from his ivory tower and tell me it's raining. I don't fall for that sort of crap, or piss, if you will.
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Consider asking this guy who seemed to grasp it until a moment ago if he can still recall and explain it at your level:
Just wondering if your vision of a white country is supposed to come about peacefully? Easier with more of the obedient minorities I suppose?
Just a heads up that being dumb has serious consequences in these matters; case in point. ^
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Hey... the forecast didn't say it was raining? Do you have tenure in your ivory tower?!!!! I'm outraged.
Most people are. With the exception of probably professors. K-12 is like 13 years. "College" lasts between 2-8 years for people.
I can't fathom to understand things on the level of a professor. And if you offer that you are indeed one, I must fall on my sword and say that you have bested me not by the virtue of your argument, but by virtue of yourself as the arguer! I blame myself for entering into the arena against such a mind. You have my apologies.
I don't think it's very hard to understand why humans kept as chattel would be predisposed to strike back at anyone who can be seen as responsible for, or at least part of, their prior condition. Maybe just like in school you can copy someone's homework; seems this time even the below average kids are eligible candidates.
realibrad: No, assuming your premise to be true, whites did not invent self hate. If whites can develop self hate, then blacks can also develop self hate.
M: I forget that you know nothing about self hate having never confronted it from within you, but you don't just develop it, you acquire it by being put down. Blacks are put down for being black as if the color of their skin had something real to do with their intrinsic value as human beings, and racism teaches them that that lie is true. That makes it inevitable that black people will hate whites for making them hate their own skin color. Whites made black people feel inferior because white people hate themselves and used blacks to dump that hate on. Blacks now seek a place to unload that hate. Nobody of any color will confront the origin of hate within themselves that results from being made to feel worthless.
r: As for the means, I would ask what you mean by that. Ends do not justify all means that accomplish that goal. I would argue that killing is far to easy to solve issues, and it saddens me that human history is filled with death.
M: You are a good person and an idealist. Try to see what I am telling you with some charity. I don't want to see more death and killing. But if person A tries to murder innocent person B, I would be morally obligated to stop that killing if I could. If the only way that were open to do that was to directly kill person A before he did the deed, I would have to kill him. If there were any other way to prevent that murder that didn't involve a greater injustice than allowing B to die, then I would have to go that way instead. It is immoral, in my opinion, to refuse to act to stop injustice because you don't believe in violence. If you don't want to defend yourself, fine, but you have to protect innocent people from those who are morally lost.
M: I forget that you know nothing about self hate having never confronted it from within you, but you don't just develop it, you acquire it by being put down. Blacks are put down for being black as if the color of their skin had something real to do with their intrinsic value as human beings, and racism teaches them that that lie is true. That makes it inevitable that black people will hate whites for making them hate their own skin color. Whites made black people feel inferior because white people hate themselves and used blacks to dump that hate on. Blacks now seek a place to unload that hate. Nobody of any color will confront the origin of hate within themselves that results from being made to feel worthless.
r: As for the means, I would ask what you mean by that. Ends do not justify all means that accomplish that goal. I would argue that killing is far to easy to solve issues, and it saddens me that human history is filled with death.
M: You are a good person and an idealist. Try to see what I am telling you with some charity. I don't want to see more death and killing. But if person A tries to murder innocent person B, I would be morally obligated to stop that killing if I could. If the only way that were open to do that was to directly kill person A before he did the deed, I would have to kill him. If there were any other way to prevent that murder that didn't involve a greater injustice than allowing B to die, then I would have to go that way instead. It is immoral, in my opinion, to refuse to act to stop injustice because you don't believe in violence. If you don't want to defend yourself, fine, but you have to protect innocent people from those who are morally lost.
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