Do we have enough race threads? Drexel University Controversy

[HamburgerBoy]

I think that various civilizations solved the problem of internal instability in various ways. Confucianism emphasized obedience. Islam emphasized unity. Christianity emphasized willing surrender.

Islam emphasized unity under their sword as it conquered the world from Southern Europe to Oceania. Christianity was marked by countless murders of break-offs deemed heretical to the Catholic Church (e.g. the Cathars).

 

[desura]

Educate yourself

Here's a good place to start

http://nctr.ca/reports.php

You could spend a lifetime feeling sorry for the suffering of others. Ultimately, you need to live for the present and the future and not be so stuck in the past.

 

[desura]

Islam emphasized unity under their sword as it conquered the world from Southern Europe to Oceania. Christianity was marked by countless murders of break-offs deemed heretical to the Catholic Church (e.g. the Cathars).

Islam definitely had a pretty strong us vs them attitude. Christianity IMO mixed so much with European pagan cultures that it is now the prime repository of the old culture.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You could spend a lifetime feeling sorry for the suffering of others. Ultimately, you need to live for the present and the future and not be so stuck in the past.

Too lazy to learn something? Can't say as I'm surprised.

 

[desura]

Too lazy to learn something? Can't say as I'm surprised.

It's sad, I get it. Defeat always is. But you know what's the best thing about living in North America? Relative lack of sectarian conflict. In a different world, I can easily see a situation where Native American tribes unify into a powerful enough bloc for there to be constant strife on the North American landscape. It is a good thing that this does not occur. Simply put, I'm not ever going to condemn the actions of past men, because they saw the situation on the ground and they understood it better than you or I can. Today we live in prosperity and peace here, and so from our comfortable perch we can read about the suffering of the losers.

 

[Victorian Gray]

It's sad, I get it. Defeat always is. But you know what's the best thing about living in North America? Relative lack of sectarian conflict. In a different world, I can easily see a situation where Native American tribes unify into a powerful enough bloc for there to be constant strife on the North American landscape. It is a good thing that this does not occur. Simply put, I'm not ever going to condemn the actions of past men, because they saw the situation on the ground and they understood it better than you or I can. Today we live in prosperity and peace here, and so from our comfortable perch we can read about the suffering of the losers.

Platitudes, platitudes, platitudes. It's not about condemning, it's about learning. You are apparently not interested in learning. Your loss, the world will simply pass you by.

 

[desura]

Platitudes, platitudes, platitudes. It's not about condemning, it's about learning. You are apparently not interested in learning. Your loss, the world will simply pass you by.

No, it's about condemning. What is never publicized is the atrocities, perhaps justified, but still, atrocities, that the native americans inflicted upon the white settlers. Here you get one side of the conflict, and this is unfortunate, but it is only a partial view. If you don't realize that this is just a slice of what happened, then you will always be learning the wrong lessons.

 

[Victorian Gray]

No, it's about condemning. What is never publicized is the atrocities, perhaps justified, but still, atrocities, that the native americans inflicted upon the white settlers. Here you get one side of the conflict, and this is unfortunate, but it is only a partial view. If you don't realize that this is just a slice of what happened, then you will always be learning the wrong lessons.

Educate yourself or not. It's your choice. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Just as I said in another thread to another poster, let just change "one" single word in the sentence and see if it would be ok.... Let change it to....“All I Want for Christmas is Black Genocide".

Anyone with a brain would say that would be unacceptable. Then it would be unacceptable to use against white or brown or yellow or any race. Racist words against one group is wrong, then it is wrong to use against any other group too. No exception. Period.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[desura]

Educate yourself or not. It's your choice. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

I have. I simply come to different conclusions because I can think for myself, and I don't parrot the PC line like you do.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I have. I simply come to different conclusions because I can think for myself, and I don't parrot the PC line like you do.

And just what "PC line" have I been parroting?

 

[bshole]

No, it's about condemning. What is never publicized is the atrocities, perhaps justified, but still, atrocities, that the native americans inflicted upon the white settlers. Here you get one side of the conflict, and this is unfortunate, but it is only a partial view. If you don't realize that this is just a slice of what happened, then you will always be learning the wrong lessons.

Well they were being annihilated, what did you expect? To roll over and bare their throats? The problem for them is that might makes right and they had no chance. They were doomed no matter what. I am sure something similar happened when neanderthals were wiped out. We now have the LUXURY of giving a shit about those we wipe out. That is an extremely new phenomena in the human race.

 

[desura]

Well they were being annihilated, what did you expect? To roll over and bare their throats? The problem for them is that might makes right and they had no chance. They were doomed no matter what. I am sure something similar happened when neanderthals were wiped out. We now have the LUXURY of giving a shit about those we wipe out. That is an extremely new phenomena in the human race.

We aren't disagreeing here at all. I said something similar a little bit back.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Am I the only one who got the point made in the tweets that those that preach fear of a "White Holocaust" be subject to one?
edit: excuse me, meant "White Genocide" shows how seriously I take this thread.

 

[Meghan54]

How does this happen? Basically Vietnam war and the college deferments created a generation of whiners who hated America and vilified it. Because they were hiding In school to avoid the draft. This made academia much more left wing, to the point left wing is the establishment of these institutions now. I mean, Bill Ayers was an actual bomb planting terrorist and now he is a very influential college professor.

You do know that the college deferment for Selective Service, or the draft, was instituted in the Selective Service Act of 1948, right? Had nothing to do with the Vietnam War or whiners who hated America (where do you get these ideas?)

And if those that avoided the Vietnam draft via college deferments were whiners, don't forget to include amongst those whiners George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

As an aside, just curious, which branch of the military did you serve during Vietnam?

 

[desura]

You do know that the college deferment for Selective Service, or the draft, was instituted in the Selective Service Act of 1948, right? Had nothing to do with the Vietnam War or whiners who hated America (where do you get these ideas?)

And if those that avoided the Vietnam draft via college deferments were whiners, don't forget to include amongst those whiners George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

As an aside, just curious, which branch of the military did you serve during Vietnam?

I think that George W. Bush had at the back of his mind a desire for a grand crusade in the Iraq war and this is tied in with his experience in avoiding Vietnam.

But neither GWB or Trump went on to work as grad students, and they weren't in that priesthood.

Just because I criticize the Left doesn't make me on board with the right either. I didn't vote Trump.

 

[momeNt]

The guy has a valid point.

If white people had genocide brought against them.... they could finally be on some equal footing in the world. It would stop "check your privilege" dead in its tracks.

It would have to be worse than the holocaust to have any sort of impact. And even then, a white genocide might be treated like the gypsy genocide of WW2, which was mostly "good riddance". So there is the chance for this to backfire.

 

[agent00f]

Eh, all humanities departments are filled with guys like this.

Drexel is a great science and engineering school. Definitely a waste for humanities, so if your kid decides that he wants humanities from Drexel, even without this guy, I'd yank him cuz it isn't worth the money.

How does this happen? Basically Vietnam war and the college deferments created a generation of whiners who hated America and vilified it. Because they were hiding In school to avoid the draft. This made academia much more left wing, to the point left wing is the establishment of these institutions now. I mean, Bill Ayers was an actual bomb planting terrorist and now he is a very influential college professor.

Quite amusing that you dismiss learning to read and write good plus somehow believe the math teachers aren't libtards, too. It's pretty obvious from how much you hate school what your performance within was.

 

[agent00f]

The best part of this is to see the lefties trying to justify the racism.

Pretty revealing the conservative reaction to desura here. I'm sure your lot can figure out what he's talking about. You know, that there'd be less strife had their reich succeeded and so on; more or less in line with what a surprising amount of this country believes if they weren't accountable to the PC police.

 

[Atreus21]

The guy literally said the massacre of whites in the Haitian revolution was a good thing.

How exactly do progressives have such a hard time condemning this?

 

[momeNt]

The guy literally said the massacre of whites in the Haitian revolution was a good thing.

How exactly do progressives have such a hard time condemning this?

They were French inhabitants occupying a French slave colony.

 

[Nashemon]

I had to dig through so many articles to even find the context of the tweet. And after reading it, this whole outrage is some of the dumbest shit I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Anyone calling for his firing over this or any other twitter post without addressing the context is an idiot and should be flayed for it.

On Christmas Eve, while most Americans were off the clock and celebrating, George Ciccariello-Maher took a short break to check Twitter. Remarkably, a three-day old tweet from State Farm, which showed a black man proposing marriage to a white woman, was still generating angry blowback from white supremacists.

Who said yes?Cheers to the newly engaged this holiday season! Be sure to #ProtectTheBling! https://t.co/XG807VEWaH pic.twitter.com/nUOcAVvq7J

— State Farm (@StateFarm) December 21, 2016



Ciccariello-Maher, a professor at Philadelphia’s Drexel University, fired off a short quip: “All I want for Christmas is White Genocide.” It was 7:48 p.m. in New England, where he was relaxing with his family. The joke, as he would go on to explain, was that the fear of “white genocide,” which refers not to mass murder but to race-mixing, was obviously misguided. Yet within hours, the tweet was being shared and condemned by conservatives, spinning a now-familiar cyclone of outrage.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-controversy/?utm_term=.90b15fbdd650#comments

 

[momeNt]

I had to dig through so many articles to even find the context of the tweet. And after reading it, this whole outrage is some of the dumbest shit I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Anyone calling for his firing over this or any other twitter post without addressing the context is an idiot and should be flayed for it.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-controversy/?utm_term=.90b15fbdd650#comments

Isn't that sort of just drawn up context? It's not like he hashtagged it or did anything to provide that sort of context himself. So what you and WaPo are doing is attempting to provide context for his statement, regardless if that was the truth or not.

It truly is odd that he would bring up Haiti if the State Farm tweet backlash was the context he made his tweet. Pretty much the only people allowed to live in the Haitian massacre were white women that agreed to marry the black men.

So I mean, with that in mind. You can take what he said to some pretty weird places!

 

[agent00f]

Isn't that sort of just drawn up context? It's not like he hashtagged it or did anything to provide that sort of context himself. So what you and WaPo are doing is attempting to provide context for his statement, regardless if that was the truth or not.

It truly is odd that he would bring up Haiti if the State Farm tweet backlash was the context he made his tweet. Pretty much the only people allowed to live in the Haitian massacre were white women that agreed to marry the black men.

So I mean, with that in mind. You can take what he said to some pretty weird places!

He's a tenured prof fucking with the dummies. The only thing left to do is to point and laugh at their abject and everlasting stupidity.

No demand for Asians? Of course, what else is new. Those darn Asians, why they spend so much time in the university library to better themselves? Why they have to be such sold out and acting white. (sarcastic).

Oh, I also do not see anything about Buddhism. Is it my turn to scream out loud that I am "marginalized" and "oppressed" now? LOL.

Except the chinese ones, they'd be gassed in your reich along with the chimpy blacks.

 

[Svnla]

Except the chinese ones, they'd be gassed in your reich along with the chimpy blacks.

Learn to post to the correct thread, dumb ass.

Right back at you, racist bastard (from a long time member who is also an Elite member) =

As an observation, you bash and call out white people more than any other member of the forums. You seem to enjoy doing that. From this, I can only conclude that you are a non-white, with a hard on for whites. Being a white person, which is widely known here, if I called out and bashed non-whites, I would be banned out of here, as a racist, but not you. That's a double standard. You wonder why I asked if you were white? I had good reason to ask that question. You have displayed blatant bigotry and racism toward white people on this forum. You have race baited as well. Your racial trolling is unacceptable!