Do nice guys finish last?

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J Heartless Slick

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Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want a boyfriend right now. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother and I like you so I just need time to think. I hope you understand. End message

At least she told you what is going on instead of you finding out later and feeling like you had been played.


 

PaidLess

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: ysperalda
Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want a boyfriend right now. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother and I like you so I just need time to think. I hope you understand. End message


You should fire back an email saying that you really liked her too until you just found out what a cold b1tch she was. Her saying you're a nice guy is like saying you don't measure up to her standards.
WRONG. You fire back a message saying "whatever..there's a girl in my Russian History class I'm talking to....go have fun"




EXACTLY.... she fired you a message that while ambiguous in the writing was clear within the lines. She's basically wanting to put you on the friends list while going out with the a$$hole. This way she gets to satisfy her wild craving and instincts to be with an alpha male while using you as the emotional balance her life will need with an jacka$$ in it.

So how does one solve this? By proving you can be as alpha male as the next guy with doing something what that guy above me wrote. SHE was ambiguous but you can't be. Make her come crawling back to you. Say, "That's great, well, I started dating this chick already and I wasn't quite sure how to tell you until now, have a nice life." Then ignore her for a bit until she makes contact. After she does, stay cool and stand-offish and completely non-chalant. That will really drive her crazy and do what she can to be with you.


As for what the guy above posted for the scale of women's actions based of their ages that is mostly true. For HOT women it is almost always the case. If they look some what decent like a 6+ on a scale of 10, then they follow that pattern. From 16-25ish to 30ish they are wild and look for the alpha male and ignore the nice guy except to use as an emotional crutch and use them. When they finally get broken in by the jerks long enough, which can sometimes be as soon as 25 but as late as their 30s, THEN they get fed up for awhile with the jerks and look for nice guys. Then depending on how menopause goes for them during their 40s and the influence of testosterone that now is more prevalaint then estrogen for them, they may do even more crazy crap and look to seek the jerks of their youth again.

Women of a 5 or less on a scale of 10 don't always conform to that set of rules because they KNOW they can't even get the jerks except as a blind drunk fvck. Which is what they hope and pray but if enough times goes by you see them settle for anything. Which is why you sometimes see really good looking guys with sme pretty ugly chicks. Why? the guy is actually VERY nice and didn't want to be burdened with the cap that hot chicks put him through and just took what was available with a good but less then great looking woman.

Then again there are exceptions to every rule and there ARE hot chicks who are actually interested in nice guys at an early age. However, most of those have already been taken and commited to long before YOU find them, unless you grew up with one since you were both toddlers. Finding a woman like that is harder then winning the lottery because at least with the lottery you have a chance if you buy a ticket and anyone can buy a ticket.

Thats just women so get used to it.

Great way of putting things into perspetive ...
 

phreakah

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:music: Oh nice guys finish last, when you run outta gas
Don't pat yourself on the back, you might break your spine :music:
 

HumblePie

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Ohh, and one funny thing to make a girl REALLY want you, find out what she really likes and use it against her. I'm serious.

Most girls like to do SOMETHING out of the ordinary and follow something. they either love a certain band, or a sporting event (yes girls like sporting events and players of sports), or a show, or SOMETHING. Find out what she likes most in the world to do or go see. If she thinks she has you firmly put on the friends ladder you can turn this around completely on her and make her head spin. Do this buy coming up with a way to do said event with the ability to bring her along but don't mention that to her.Like buying an extra ticket to a concert or something or take time off to plan a roadtrip somewhere. Make sure that whatever the event IS you will enjoy it even if the plan backfires and that you have a plan B of someone to take in her place.

Then, make your move by mentioning you are going to do whatever it is she's extremely wanting to do. When she asks to come with say you already are taking someone else and mention a MALE name. this makes a hot woman who's "used" you as a friend in the past think she can push you right over and worm her way into letting her go. While you actually want her to do this you want her to do it on YOUR terms and not hers. Make them beg and plead to go.

After the girl asks to go with you instead of your male friend firmly say no. When they ask again, say "What makes you think you are more worthy then <insert name> to go with me to <insert place>?" The whole point is you want them chasing YOU and not the other way around if they are still young. Whatever reason is given by a girl just say the same is true for the guy friend and ask her "what have you done for me lately?" or get a bit lewd at this point and ask more directly, "and how would you make it worth my while to take you instead then?" This is known commonly as flirting and trust me, it works. Wherever the conversasion goes, make sure it stays at least on the cusp of sexual innuendo and connotation. There is a fine art to flirting at this point and it takes loosening the reigns of being nice and actually thinking of the girl as not a friend but a foe. She has something you want, and you have something she wants but you need to make her feel as if you are the one with the upper hand and are giving out concessions and not the other way around. This drives women crazy for some stupid reason.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
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Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want a boyfriend right now. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother and I like you so I just need time to think. I hope you understand. End message

At least she told you what is going on instead of you finding out later and feeling like you had been played.



Incorrect, she is STILL playing him with this message. Hence, the I hope you understand and I need time to think. She's wanting to use him as a "male" friend and an emotional crutch. That's why her message is ambiguous and not clearly defined as say a message that simply states. "I'm sorry, we had fun but I feel different about you now and I am moving on to other people." NOW THAT is a well defined statement that lets a man know in no uncertain terms that it is definately over and it's time to move on completely. Instead, she's trying to use his nice guy naivette to play him and hope he doesn't read between the lines exactly to interrupt it and completely abandon her just yet.
 

Hyperblaze

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Ohh, and one funny thing to make a girl REALLY want you, find out what she really likes and use it against her. I'm serious.

Most girls like to do SOMETHING out of the ordinary and follow something. they either love a certain band, or a sporting event (yes girls like sporting events and players of sports), or a show, or SOMETHING. Find out what she likes most in the world to do or go see. If she thinks she has you firmly put on the friends ladder you can turn this around completely on her and make her head spin. Do this buy coming up with a way to do said event with the ability to bring her along but don't mention that to her.Like buying an extra ticket to a concert or something or take time off to plan a roadtrip somewhere. Make sure that whatever the event IS you will enjoy it even if the plan backfires and that you have a plan B of someone to take in her place.

Then, make your move by mentioning you are going to do whatever it is she's extremely wanting to do. When she asks to come with say you already are taking someone else and mention a MALE name. this makes a hot woman who's "used" you as a friend in the past think she can push you right over and worm her way into letting her go. While you actually want her to do this you want her to do it on YOUR terms and not hers. Make them beg and plead to go.

After the girl asks to go with you instead of your male friend firmly say no. When they ask again, say "What makes you think you are more worthy then <insert name> to go with me to <insert place>?" The whole point is you want them chasing YOU and not the other way around if they are still young. Whatever reason is given by a girl just say the same is true for the guy friend and ask her "what have you done for me lately?" or get a bit lewd at this point and ask more directly, "and how would you make it worth my while to take you instead then?" This is known commonly as flirting and trust me, it works. Wherever the conversasion goes, make sure it stays at least on the cusp of sexual innuendo and connotation. There is a fine art to flirting at this point and it takes loosening the reigns of being nice and actually thinking of the girl as not a friend but a foe. She has something you want, and you have something she wants but you need to make her feel as if you are the one with the upper hand and are giving out concessions and not the other way around. This drives women crazy for some stupid reason.


curious question for you. at what age did you figure this out?

 

HumblePie

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uhhh... really over the last few years as I've been used and used again by women but really just within the last year or two started figuring out the "game" as played by young men and women. It just dawned on me and all my past experiences and the experiences of others I know about fit into what I described above.
 

newParadigm

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this sounds like the problem im having right now, except, i just found out that shes already going out with the competition. I think they're breaking up though, cause I know one of her friends pretty well, and she said the shes going through a tough time....
 

HumblePie

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mdchesne
not always... statistically, yes though

What part is an exception that I have not already given? Go read the ladder theory website and take what you can from it. It's FAIRLY accurate but I have a couple exceptions to his theory. One is the known since a toddler or the over dominated by the parents woman and basically hitched before she knows it.

He doesn't cover those exceptions nor does he define the fact that his ladder theory mostly pertains to good looking women which are a 6+ on a scale of 10. the 5 and under crowd of woman would LIKE to conform to the ladder theory but they can't. Nor does the theory conform to complete sluts. Yes, there are some of those girls out there which don't HAVE a friends ladder and anyone can get into those pants if they want.

So if you read the ladder theory, which isn't perfect and adjust it based of what I said. Which is that it applies to single, young, good looking women and not to women of different age categories and "experiences" change their behavioral patterns when dealing with men. There are exceptions as well he didn't cover in his theory that I mentioned above but they are a moot point. Such as the hot chick that hooks up with the nice guy because they were always together since they first learn to wipe their own a$$es. It happens, but unless it's happened to you, then you are sh~t out of luck.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Yes, nice guys finish last. '


Women from 20-30 years old: Like to mess around with ex-cons, all-around jerks, and other various bad boys. They very rarely settle down.

Women 30+: All used up, and then they decide to go back to the nice guy, which, being the nice guy he is, eventually marries the woman and they develop a family.

Women 40+: Miss their carefree days, find a silly pet peeve that they can use against their nice guy husband, and ask for a divorce. Attempts to find a bad boy or several flings.

Women 50+: Women remarries several times, eventually deciding to settle down once again.



Daayuum that describes my Ex to a T!

General rule of thumb is nice guys usually get fvcked over....

Ausm
 

Hyperblaze

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
nice guys only finish last if they can delay orgasm

if they work on overkill on the foreplay, that shouldn't be a problem.

She'll be ready to go before the guy even gets started :D
 

PimpJuice

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Originally posted by: geek4life
She's my classmate in college as well. Damn, I'll have to see her face tomorrow morning. Regardless, I'll be a gentleman.

why? Be an ass or she'll walk over you. Let her know how you really feel.
 

PimpJuice

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Yes, nice guys finish last. '


Women from 20-30 years old: Like to mess around with ex-cons, all-around jerks, and other various bad boys. They very rarely settle down.

Women 30+: All used up, and then they decide to go back to the nice guy, which, being the nice guy he is, eventually marries the woman and they develop a family.

Women 40+: Miss their carefree days, find a silly pet peeve that they can use against their nice guy husband, and ask for a divorce. Attempts to find a bad boy or several flings.

Women 50+: Women remarries several times, eventually deciding to settle down once again.


Wow..this is so true. I was so used in high school because I was the "nice guy". Always able to drive, always there to lend money, always there to give advice. Always going home by myself while the hot girls went out with my crazy drummer and my psycho singer after Sat. night shows.

Now I'm in my 30's, and I'm pretty successful, stayed in shape, and retained most of my youthful looks. I went to a high school reunion last year and DAMN- I could have had an 8-some in the back seat of my SUV if I wanted too :D All those girls now look like they're in their 50's from smoking, have jobs as cashiers at dollar stores, or have 4 kids by different fathers, but you would have thought I was Brad Pitt when I walked in. My wife's a lucky woman ;) It's nice to have the last laugh.

The moral of the story: Girls- that nice guy may seem boring to you at first, but he's probably going to be the best thing to happen to you.

Your story artificially induces hope.

What hope? That 10 years down the line, a nice guy will have the chance to bang used up girls that look like they're 50? haha

 

PimpJuice

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Originally posted by: geek4life
That biatch called me today and wanted to get back with me. I told her "why don't you go hang out with your assistant manager's brother?" Then I turned off my phone on her.

Dumb biatch.

shens