Do nice guys finish last?

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FeuerFrei

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Originally posted by: themroc27
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Nice guys dont finish last, pansies do.

but stalkers get sent to jail. you can't force someone to be into you, right..?

no, but you can make them regret rejecting you!! :brokenheart:




;)
 

EyeMWing

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Yes. We do. Usually.

However, in recent years, extensive study of women by those on the vanguard of nice-guy science has discovered that it is possible for a properly equipped and prepared nice guy is able to simply walk through the psychological defenses and literally manipulate the "pecking order" if you will. In the past, such machinations were thought nearly impossible because they had to be performed through the iron-clad female psyche. Exactly *HOW* these changes are performed is still being researched and tested.

The research into this field has been fueled by observation of the common asshole's innate abilities to do this - however, it turns out that even the biggest asshole still does not have TOTAL access. We can change the unconscious female mind in ways that they cannot even DREAM of (that is, if assholes dream. There has been insufficient study into this area).

On a similar front, data collected by our cuddle-b!tch bretheren shows just how daunting the task ahead is. They have uncovered portions of the underlying illogic that forms the female mind and consciousness. They assure us that there are more than nine and a half trillion distinct illogical sets in which the female mind operates - cycled on what they believe is a psuedorandom interval ranging from milliseconds in interval to mere minutes. This presents a daunting task - in order to learn to completely understand the female mind, we must understand every one of these sets and how they interrelate. As a result, plans have gone ahead for the construction of the world's first female supercomputer. Initial designs called for ten thousand Apple eMacs (the most female computer on the market) to be run in a cluster configuration - but plans have been changed to interface an actual female specimen with a clone of the US Department of Energy's IBM BlueGene solution (which is the theoretical maximum scale for the BlueGene platform). Complete understanding, even with this ridiculous amount of computing power, may take much longer than our meager lifespans, however.
 

kinev

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Yes. We do. Usually.

However, in recent years, extensive study of women by those on the vanguard of nice-guy science has discovered that it is possible for a properly equipped and prepared nice guy is able to simply walk through the psychological defenses and literally manipulate the "pecking order" if you will. In the past, such machinations were thought nearly impossible because they had to be performed through the iron-clad female psyche. Exactly *HOW* these changes are performed is still being researched and tested.

The research into this field has been fueled by observation of the common asshole's innate abilities to do this - however, it turns out that even the biggest asshole still does not have TOTAL access. We can change the unconscious female mind in ways that they cannot even DREAM of (that is, if assholes dream. There has been insufficient study into this area).

On a similar front, data collected by our cuddle-b!tch bretheren shows just how daunting the task ahead is. They have uncovered portions of the underlying illogic that forms the female mind and consciousness. They assure us that there are more than nine and a half trillion distinct illogical sets in which the female mind operates - cycled on what they believe is a psuedorandom interval ranging from milliseconds in interval to mere minutes. This presents a daunting task - in order to learn to completely understand the female mind, we must understand every one of these sets and how they interrelate. As a result, plans have gone ahead for the construction of the world's first female supercomputer. Initial designs called for ten thousand Apple eMacs (the most female computer on the market) to be run in a cluster configuration - but plans have been changed to interface an actual female specimen with a clone of the US Department of Energy's IBM BlueGene solution (which is the theoretical maximum scale for the BlueGene platform). Complete understanding, even with this ridiculous amount of computing power, may take much longer than our meager lifespans, however.

:thumbsup:
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Yes. We do. Usually.

However, in recent years, extensive study of women by those on the vanguard of nice-guy science has discovered that it is possible for a properly equipped and prepared nice guy is able to simply walk through the psychological defenses and literally manipulate the "pecking order" if you will. In the past, such machinations were thought nearly impossible because they had to be performed through the iron-clad female psyche. Exactly *HOW* these changes are performed is still being researched and tested.

The research into this field has been fueled by observation of the common asshole's innate abilities to do this - however, it turns out that even the biggest asshole still does not have TOTAL access. We can change the unconscious female mind in ways that they cannot even DREAM of (that is, if assholes dream. There has been insufficient study into this area).

On a similar front, data collected by our cuddle-b!tch bretheren shows just how daunting the task ahead is. They have uncovered portions of the underlying illogic that forms the female mind and consciousness. They assure us that there are more than nine and a half trillion distinct illogical sets in which the female mind operates - cycled on what they believe is a psuedorandom interval ranging from milliseconds in interval to mere minutes. This presents a daunting task - in order to learn to completely understand the female mind, we must understand every one of these sets and how they interrelate. As a result, plans have gone ahead for the construction of the world's first female supercomputer. Initial designs called for ten thousand Apple eMacs (the most female computer on the market) to be run in a cluster configuration - but plans have been changed to interface an actual female specimen with a clone of the US Department of Energy's IBM BlueGene solution (which is the theoretical maximum scale for the BlueGene platform). Complete understanding, even with this ridiculous amount of computing power, may take much longer than our meager lifespans, however.

sounds like the answer will be 42
and we'll be needing a new supercomputer to really figure it out.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Yes. We do. Usually.

However, in recent years, extensive study of women by those on the vanguard of nice-guy science has discovered that it is possible for a properly equipped and prepared nice guy is able to simply walk through the psychological defenses and literally manipulate the "pecking order" if you will. In the past, such machinations were thought nearly impossible because they had to be performed through the iron-clad female psyche. Exactly *HOW* these changes are performed is still being researched and tested.

The research into this field has been fueled by observation of the common asshole's innate abilities to do this - however, it turns out that even the biggest asshole still does not have TOTAL access. We can change the unconscious female mind in ways that they cannot even DREAM of (that is, if assholes dream. There has been insufficient study into this area).

On a similar front, data collected by our cuddle-b!tch bretheren shows just how daunting the task ahead is. They have uncovered portions of the underlying illogic that forms the female mind and consciousness. They assure us that there are more than nine and a half trillion distinct illogical sets in which the female mind operates - cycled on what they believe is a psuedorandom interval ranging from milliseconds in interval to mere minutes. This presents a daunting task - in order to learn to completely understand the female mind, we must understand every one of these sets and how they interrelate. As a result, plans have gone ahead for the construction of the world's first female supercomputer. Initial designs called for ten thousand Apple eMacs (the most female computer on the market) to be run in a cluster configuration - but plans have been changed to interface an actual female specimen with a clone of the US Department of Energy's IBM BlueGene solution (which is the theoretical maximum scale for the BlueGene platform). Complete understanding, even with this ridiculous amount of computing power, may take much longer than our meager lifespans, however.

sounds like the answer will be 42
and we'll be needing a new supercomputer to really figure it out.

No. Instead of simply issuing a single command, as was done in the Deep Thought fiasco, the problem of the female mind will be broken down into smaller, more tangible steps so that advances can be applied on a shorter term basis, lest the Nice Guy become extinct and this understanding fall into the hands of the Common Asshole, allowing them to enslave Womankind.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Yes, nice guys finish last. '


Women from 20-30 years old: Like to mess around with ex-cons, all-around jerks, and other various bad boys. They very rarely settle down.

Women 30+: All used up, and then they decide to go back to the nice guy, which, being the nice guy he is, eventually marries the woman and they develop a family.

Women 40+: Miss their carefree days, find a silly pet peeve that they can use against their nice guy husband, and ask for a divorce. Attempts to find a bad boy or several flings.

Women 50+: Women remarries several times, eventually deciding to settle down once again.


Wow..this is so true. I was so used in high school because I was the "nice guy". Always able to drive, always there to lend money, always there to give advice. Always going home by myself while the hot girls went out with my crazy drummer and my psycho singer after Sat. night shows.

Now I'm in my 30's, and I'm pretty successful, stayed in shape, and retained most of my youthful looks. I went to a high school reunion last year and DAMN- I could have had an 8-some in the back seat of my SUV if I wanted too :D All those girls now look like they're in their 50's from smoking, have jobs as cashiers at dollar stores, or have 4 kids by different fathers, but you would have thought I was Brad Pitt when I walked in. My wife's a lucky woman ;) It's nice to have the last laugh.

The moral of the story: Girls- that nice guy may seem boring to you at first, but he's probably going to be the best thing to happen to you.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Yes, nice guys finish last. '


Women from 20-30 years old: Like to mess around with ex-cons, all-around jerks, and other various bad boys. They very rarely settle down.

Women 30+: All used up, and then they decide to go back to the nice guy, which, being the nice guy he is, eventually marries the woman and they develop a family.

Women 40+: Miss their carefree days, find a silly pet peeve that they can use against their nice guy husband, and ask for a divorce. Attempts to find a bad boy or several flings.

Women 50+: Women remarries several times, eventually deciding to settle down once again.


Wow..this is so true. I was so used in high school because I was the "nice guy". Always able to drive, always there to lend money, always there to give advice. Always going home by myself while the hot girls went out with my crazy drummer and my psycho singer after Sat. night shows.

Now I'm in my 30's, and I'm pretty successful, stayed in shape, and retained most of my youthful looks. I went to a high school reunion last year and DAMN- I could have had an 8-some in the back seat of my SUV if I wanted too :D All those girls now look like they're in their 50's from smoking, have jobs as cashiers at dollar stores, or have 4 kids by different fathers, but you would have thought I was Brad Pitt when I walked in. My wife's a lucky woman ;) It's nice to have the last laugh.

The moral of the story: Girls- that nice guy may seem boring to you at first, but he's probably going to be the best thing to happen to you.

Your story artificially induces hope.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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this whole women wanting badasses thing is pure garbage in my opinion. yes some women are attracted to guys that are complete a-holes, but in the long run those relationships almost never work out. women want guys that are good to them and treat them well, are not complete pushovers, have independent lives outside the relationship, and are STABLE. it'll do you no good to try and pretend to be an a-hole when it's not in your nature, just focus on not being a total pushover and trust me women will want you a whole lot more.
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
this whole women wanting badasses thing is pure garbage in my opinion. yes some women are attracted to guys that are complete a-holes, but in the long run those relationships almost never work out. women want guys that are good to them and treat them well, are not complete pushovers, have independent lives outside the relationship, and are STABLE. it'll do you no good to try and pretend to be an a-hole when it's not in your nature, just focus on not being a total pushover and trust me women will want you a whole lot more.

Bullsh!t! Women love drama! They get bored with the guy you just described!
 

geek4life

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That biatch called me today and wanted to get back with me. I told her "why don't you go hang out with your assistant manager's brother?" Then I turned off my phone on her.

Dumb biatch.
 

lavagirl669

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Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want you for my boyfriend. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother more than you. I hope you understand. End message

fixed
sorry dude

 

WildHorse

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Forget her! Totally, with absolute finality, no going back. Onward!

Look for someone you'll have more fun with.

In case you haaven't noticed, this world is absolutely brimming over, teeming with, attractive babes, some of whom you will share compatibility with.

So you're on a man on a mission: go find those girls, & as you get to know many, sort out the ones you like & drop the other ones with respect but real fast. Life is short, don't waste time.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Keep bothering her. Her text message was just trying to see how dedicated you were to her. If you give your 40 calls a day and knock on her apartment/door 3 times an hour, I'm sure she'll capitulate soon.

No, no, no...that only works in those romantic comedy movies women always drag us too. Thus perpetuating the confusion over the proper courtship ritual.
 

ggnl

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This is going to be my stock response to threads like this, mainly because I can't say it any more consisely than Ronstang did...

Originally posted by: Ronstang

You young guys would be much better off if you would stop getting emotionally involved with women who are too damn young. You guys are mostly idealistic pussys that think love is all sticky sweet and forever....it is not, be careful or they will end up with half your stuff.

There is a simple rule to follow with women. If you are young hang around with them all you want and get as much play as you can but don't get attached. Most women are not worth a crap until they are 26. Why you ask is the majic number 26? Simple....by then, if still single, they are out of school, have played out all their evil little fantasies, crushed the hearts of enough men that the thrill is gone, have had their hearts crushed at least once so now they "understand", they have lived on their own long enough to know what the real world is all about and understand the necessity of budgetting, and the most important part.....they finally realize they are not the only one in the world with a damp spot between their legs.

 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: ysperalda
Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want a boyfriend right now. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother and I like you so I just need time to think. I hope you understand. End message


You should fire back an email saying that you really liked her too until you just found out what a cold b1tch she was. Her saying you're a nice guy is like saying you don't measure up to her standards.
WRONG. You fire back a message saying "whatever..there's a girl in my Russian History class I'm talking to....go have fun"
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
this whole women wanting badasses thing is pure garbage in my opinion. yes some women are attracted to guys that are complete a-holes, but in the long run those relationships almost never work out. women want guys that are good to them and treat them well, are not complete pushovers, have independent lives outside the relationship, and are STABLE. it'll do you no good to try and pretend to be an a-hole when it's not in your nature, just focus on not being a total pushover and trust me women will want you a whole lot more.

Bullsh!t! Women love drama! They get bored with the guy you just described!
Yeah, some of them will, but that's their problem. At the end of the day it's more important to be a good person than to tear your hair out trying to be the man EVERY WOMAN WANTS.



 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: ysperalda
Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want a boyfriend right now. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother and I like you so I just need time to think. I hope you understand. End message


You should fire back an email saying that you really liked her too until you just found out what a cold b1tch she was. Her saying you're a nice guy is like saying you don't measure up to her standards.
WRONG. You fire back a message saying "whatever..there's a girl in my Russian History class I'm talking to....go have fun"




EXACTLY.... she fired you a message that while ambiguous in the writing was clear within the lines. She's basically wanting to put you on the friends list while going out with the a$$hole. This way she gets to satisfy her wild craving and instincts to be with an alpha male while using you as the emotional balance her life will need with an jacka$$ in it.

So how does one solve this? By proving you can be as alpha male as the next guy with doing something what that guy above me wrote. SHE was ambiguous but you can't be. Make her come crawling back to you. Say, "That's great, well, I started dating this chick already and I wasn't quite sure how to tell you until now, have a nice life." Then ignore her for a bit until she makes contact. After she does, stay cool and stand-offish and completely non-chalant. That will really drive her crazy and do what she can to be with you.


As for what the guy above posted for the scale of women's actions based of their ages that is mostly true. For HOT women it is almost always the case. If they look some what decent like a 6+ on a scale of 10, then they follow that pattern. From 16-25ish to 30ish they are wild and look for the alpha male and ignore the nice guy except to use as an emotional crutch and use them. When they finally get broken in by the jerks long enough, which can sometimes be as soon as 25 but as late as their 30s, THEN they get fed up for awhile with the jerks and look for nice guys. Then depending on how menopause goes for them during their 40s and the influence of testosterone that now is more prevalaint then estrogen for them, they may do even more crazy crap and look to seek the jerks of their youth again.

Women of a 5 or less on a scale of 10 don't always conform to that set of rules because they KNOW they can't even get the jerks except as a blind drunk fvck. Which is what they hope and pray but if enough times goes by you see them settle for anything. Which is why you sometimes see really good looking guys with sme pretty ugly chicks. Why? the guy is actually VERY nice and didn't want to be burdened with the cap that hot chicks put him through and just took what was available with a good but less then great looking woman.

Then again there are exceptions to every rule and there ARE hot chicks who are actually interested in nice guys at an early age. However, most of those have already been taken and commited to long before YOU find them, unless you grew up with one since you were both toddlers. Finding a woman like that is harder then winning the lottery because at least with the lottery you have a chance if you buy a ticket and anyone can buy a ticket.

Thats just women so get used to it.
 

Hyperblaze

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: ysperalda
Originally posted by: geek4life
pffttt....women
Got this message from her this morning.
I've been thinking over the weekend and I really don't want to be tied down right now. I'm only 18. I think you're a great guy and sweet I just don't think I want a boyfriend right now. Cause I really like my assistant manager's brother and I like you so I just need time to think. I hope you understand. End message


You should fire back an email saying that you really liked her too until you just found out what a cold b1tch she was. Her saying you're a nice guy is like saying you don't measure up to her standards.
WRONG. You fire back a message saying "whatever..there's a girl in my Russian History class I'm talking to....go have fun"




EXACTLY.... she fired you a message that while ambiguous in the writing was clear within the lines. She's basically wanting to put you on the friends list while going out with the a$$hole. This way she gets to satisfy her wild craving and instincts to be with an alpha male while using you as the emotional balance her life will need with an jacka$$ in it.

So how does one solve this? By proving you can be as alpha male as the next guy with doing something what that guy above you wrote. SHE was ambiguous but you can't be. Make her come crawling back to you. Say, that's great, well, I started dating this chick already and I wasn't quite sure how to tell you until now, have a nice life. " then ignore her for a bit until she makes contact. After she does, stay cool and stand-offish and completely non-chalant. That will really drive her crazy and do what she can to be with you.


As for what the guy above posted for the scale of women's actions based of their ages that is mostly true. For HOT women it is almost always the case. If they look some what decent like a 6+ on a scale of 10, then they follow that pattern. From 16-25ish to 30ish they are wild and look for the alpha male and ignore the nice guy except to use as an emotional crutch and use them. When they finally get broken in by the jerks long enough, which can sometimes be as soon as 25 but as late as their 30s, THEN they get fed up for awhile with the jerks and look for nice guys. Then depending on how menopause goes for them during their 40s and the influence of testosterone that now is more prevalaint then estrogen for them, they may do even more crazy crap and look to seek the jerks of their youth again.

Women of a 5 or less on a scale of 10 don't always conform to that set of rules because they KNOW they can't even get the jerks except as a blind drunk fvck. Which is what they hope and pray but if enough times goes by you see them settle for anything. Which is why you sometimes see really good looking guys with sme pretty ugly chicks. Why? the guy is actually VERY nice and didn't want to be burdened with the cap that hot chicks put him through and just took what was available with a good but less then great looking woman.

Then again there are exceptions to every rule and there ARE hot chicks who are actually interested in nice guys at an early age. However, most of those have already been taken and commited to long before YOU find them, unless you grew up with one since you were both toddlers. Finding a woman like that is harder then winning the lottery because at least with the lottery you have a chance if you buy a ticket and anyone can buy a ticket.

Thats just women so get used to it.


Holy sh!t I've never read it described so well.