Do high end user use AMD instead of Intel?

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Abwx

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He's just salty that his backlog of unsold/unsaleable AMD products are going to have to be sold while denominated in Drachmas soon, cutting even further into his business...

Racism as an argument....
 

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Racism as an argument....

And how exactly is that racism? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that currency really doesn't have anything to do with genetics.

All I said is the reason he's more strident and angry than usual is because of the financial stresses of selling failed products (AMD) in a failing economy (Greece).
 

Abwx

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And how exactly is that racism? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that currency really doesn't have anything to do with genetics.

All I said is the reason he's more strident and angry than usual is because of the financial stresses of selling failed products (AMD) in a failing economy (Greece).

Lol....

Failed products..?..

While we re on the "high end" disussion you can always buy some X99 dedicated CPU and enjoy "high end" instability, in this case you can talk of failed product, and at a ridiculous price tag...

It s not by chance that OEMs increase the stock voltages on their MBs, they dont want to take the blame for Intel s selling produts that are not correctly specced, on the other hand AMD never jeopardise stability even if it cost them substancialy more TDP given the huge voltages margins..

28.5% for Kaveri, 15% on average for Intel and a meager 10%, wich is the minimal requirement, for the soon to come DT Broadwell...

Now we can talk of high end....
 

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Its not hard to go through the Oktabit forum and look at the topics and more importantly, posts and threads by you. And static AMD sales banners in the top. Just because its in greek its not out of reach.

Don't you also work for the Intel subsidiary in Copenhagen? This thread is kinda getting silly now when an Intel employee is criticizing an AMD reseller. Talk about full blown F.U.D.
 

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I think given the evidence he presented it's more likely ShintaiDK is on Intel's

I believe Shintai works for the Intel subsidiary in Copenhagen. I realize some employers force an internet / social media blackout to active employees, so he probably isn't permitted to confirm it.
 

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Got any proof?

Nothing solid -- just rumors / rumblings from other forum members. He's likely not allowed to comment if it's true. It does make a lot of sense -- since Intel Copenhagen ApS happens to be one of the larger employers in the city.
 
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Abwx

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So just a hunch. Certainly not the same as AtenRa, who is an AMD reseller by his own admission.

He s also an Intel reseller, and i didnt see AMD supporters criticising him for that.

Other than that i have much more confidence to someone who gives his credentials than to anonymous people who say nothing but seems to do a job of promoting some brands and bashing some others...
 

ShintaiDK

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Don't you also work for the Intel subsidiary in Copenhagen?

No I dont. I am not affiliated with Intel in any way. The closest relation I got to them is via an investment fund via my bank that in their USA and "Global dividend stocks" portefolios got a 1.33% and 1.38% share of Intel stocks.

http://nordea.fundconnect.com/funds... NI&search=on&compare=on&xray=on&factsheet=on

And:
http://nordea.fundconnect.com/funds... NI&search=on&compare=on&xray=on&factsheet=on

(Click "Vis alle beholdninger")

And I have told this before. Unlike others who hide their affiliations and group memberships.

Feel free to apologies. Or come up with whatever facts you believe you got to claim otherwise. And the same applies to soccerballtux.
 
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And I have told this before. Unlike others who hide their affiliations and group memberships.

Feel free to apologies. Or come up with whatever facts you believe you got to claim otherwise. And the same applies to soccerballtux.


I'll take your word for it.
 
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ShintaiDK

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So just for the record, you are claiming you never were involved in any Intel fellowships / trainings / certifications.... Yet you work in Enterprise Administration........ Hmmmm.....
I suspect my PM's are going to light up tonight.

What would Intel train or certify you with as an enterprise administrator? I think you confuse that with Microsoft, Oracle, SAP, Vmware, Cisco etc.
 

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ShintaiDK

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Nothing solid -- just rumors / rumblings from other forum members. He's likely not allowed to comment if it's true. It does make a lot of sense -- since Intel Copenhagen ApS happens to be one of the larger employers in the city.

I dont even think Intel got much left in Denmark. They bought Giga and got slapped hard with transfer pricing when moving it out. I dont even think they got more than 25-50 people working here. And most if not all would be in Aalborg, not Copenhagen.
 

ShintaiDK

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Intel certifications are a lot more comprehensive than you give them credit for. Especially related to internet security:

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/university/professors.html

I think you are forgetting they now own McAfee......

I still dont see anything in relation to system administration. But that shouldnt be a surprise since that page you link to is for Students, Professors and Researchers.

And I have never used a McAfee product either. I may have uninstalled some tho.
 
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I dont even think Intel got much left in Denmark. They bought Giga and got slapped hard with transfer pricing when moving it out. I dont even think they got more than 25-50 people working here. And most if not all would be in Aalborg, not Copenhagen.

Intel pretty much runs the Copenhagen Institute of Interaction Design -- so you're definitely understating their influence on the area. Couldn't help but notice they host the Intel Solutions Summit there with thousands of Intel employees as well. They were pretty massive in Denmark when I visited.
 

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I still dont see anything in relation to system administration. But that shouldnt be a surprise since that page you link to is for Students, Professors and Researchers.

Shocking development, since I'm referring to the link between Intel and The Copenhagen Institute of Interaction Design.
 

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He s also an Intel reseller, and i didnt see AMD supporters criticising him for that.

Other than that i have much more confidence to someone who gives his credentials than to anonymous people who say nothing but seems to do a job of promoting some brands and bashing some others...

Why do credentials matter? The facts of the matter have already been shown ad nauseam in this thread. Intel > AMD and some people are immature enough to actually take that personally. People's credentials shouldn't matter when the facts speak for themselves.
 

ShintaiDK

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Intel pretty much runs the Copenhagen Institute of Interaction Design -- so you're definitely understating their influence on the area. Couldn't help but notice they host the Intel Solutions Summit there with thousands of Intel employees as well. They were pretty massive in Denmark when I visited.

Shocking development, since I'm referring to the link between Intel and The Copenhagen Institute of Interaction Design.

Intel is a nobody in Denmark. They closed up shop in 2002. And they peaked with 300 employees. They bought Giga and closed that one in 2006. 130 people.

And I really dont think you know what you talk about.
http://ciid.dk/
Aka Copenhagen Institute of Interaction Design.

https://www.google.dk/maps/@55.6824...4!1sMj5rsCbJEW80m4DqOPAW6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Yes, that small old crap building. And no, Intel doesnt run it. They have 2 "fellowships". One with Intel and one with Sony.
http://ciid.dk/research/fellowships/
 
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Abwx

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Why do credentials matter? The facts of the matter have already been shown ad nauseam in this thread. Intel > AMD and some people are immature enough to actually take that personally. People's credentials shouldn't matter when the facts speak for themselves.

Facts are that people, like you among others, are using ad hominem and personal attacks to onfront ATenra s benches and numbers.

This say that he s right since the opposition always rely to questionning his person, exactly what you are doing , as a mean to downplay or even ignore his numbers, that is, diabolization as mean to deny any technical argument..

He posted numbers, where are your own numbers and technically motivated arguments..?....


Kinda like Tek Syndicate? *cough*

A tek forum without technical arguments..?.

Why not, after all that s almost the case...
 
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The only overhelming evidence is that people short of arguments invariably rely to ad hominem, exactly what you re doing in your post.

The kind of evidences that would have a value in this forum are the technical one, if you have none then you have no argument.

If that's what you think, you haven't read the thread. If you have read the thread, you're blinded by your own brand allegiance. His "occupation" was brought into question by other parties some of whom are actually fairly new to the forum. This was after pages and pages of repeated goal post shifting, excuse making and cherry picking. Again, if you didn't see that, you've either not read the thread, which you really should if you're going to make replies like this, or as I said, you're blinded by similar brand allegiance, in which case, any type of constructive conversation would be an exercise in futility and there's nothing more to say here.
 
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Man I Suck

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Facts are that people, like you among others, are using ad hominem and personal attacks to onfront ATenra s benches and numbers.

This say that he s right since the opposition always rely to questionning his person, exactly what you are doing , as a mean to downplay or even ignore his numbers, that is, diabolization as mean to deny any technical argument..

He posted numbers, where are your own numbers and technically motivated arguments..?....




A tek forum without technical arguments..?.

Why not, after all that s almost the case...

When did I use personal attacks? I've never insulted anyone in this thread. I simply asked about a correlation between the inferior product that AtenRa is defending to a fault in an effort to understand why AtenRa is hell bent on failing to defend a product in the face of facts that contradict his argument.

Other people have already posted plenty of links with appropriate data. This argument was done a long time ago.

You're over reacting, though. Trying way too hard.