DNC Advisor: Ann Romney has never worked a day in her life.

[mect]

But on that same note, I wouldn't call Michelle Obama an expert on childhood obesity. She may be an activist, but not an expert. Ann Romney is also no expert and has no ability to relate to the situation. She can empathize or be active in trying to improve the lives of working class mothers, but she should not be the source of information on the subject for Mitt.

And where did either Mitt or Ann ever claim she was a source of information. All Mitt has said is that from her experiences out campaigning, economic issues are among of the top concerns women have. This is similar to Michelle stating that child obesity is a huge issue in America. Neither are claiming to be experts in the field.

 

[werepossum]

It's so funny how when a Democrat points out that Mitt can't ask his wife for valid insight on women's unequal pay in the workplace, the glass ceiling, or workplaces trying to fire women who take birth control, that the GOP decides that Democrats are attacking women. But when the GOP is genuinely trying to erode the rights of women, they defend that it's not an attack on women. It's like if a Democrat pointed out how the Nazis killing jews was wrong, the GOP would rail on them that they're anti Catholic because the Democrats weren't attacking how the Nazis also killed Catholics.

Victim card, victim card, victim card. How next will the GOP play the victim card. Fucking retards.

Wow, Godwin's Law in one page. Epic proggie panic.

Meanwhile Obama has Michelle to inform him on working women's issues. Nothing like a $600K job created especially for a politician's wife and abolished once she's moved on to really help you understand women's issues.

 

[Zebo]

This. The Romneys made sacrifices they thought were worth making to have a full time mom; they were not always rich.

Ironically, if Ann Romney was a single mother of five who had never worked and had always been supported from the fruit of others' labor the DNC would think her a hero.

I think they were always rich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

 

[Zebo]

Rosen is right. Romney's can't relate to struggling working women. Mitt doesn't even try, he expects his wife to talk to the maid and tell him what problems working women have.

Yeah and FDR and Elinor couldnt relate either. Lame argument. The greatest champions for the poor are the richest Americans FYI. he Kennedy's, the Rockefellers etc.


The bottom up dems become uncle toms for lack of a better term. See Obamacare or banking reform.

Dean was born rich really rich see his scathing reviews of it.

 

[mect]

True Facts: Liberal Elites live in Ivory Towers; Conservative Elites are Hard Workers

And then the flip side, Republican elites are scum that arrived where they are through lying, cheating, and nepotism and are trying to ensure the riffraff stay in the gutter where they belong whereas Democrat elites arrived their through hard work and good fortune and are trying to raise the rest of mankind up to their level.

 

[thraashman]

This. The Romneys made sacrifices they thought were worth making to have a full time mom; they were not always rich.

Ironically, if Ann Romney was a single mother of five who had never worked and had always been supported from the fruit of others' labor the DNC would think her a hero.

While the Mitt and Ann themselves may not have always been rich, Mitt's family was very well off and he had a familial safety net and extensive opportunities that few have. And no one is even attacking Ann Romney either. The full quote in context, not just one sentence taken apart from others (Mitt seems to like to do that, like passing off Obama quoting another as Obama himself making a statement), shows what she was talking about. She was pointing out that Ann Romney is not a good source of information on the economic issues that women deal with. Equal pay for equal work isn't something a person who hasn't ever worked a paying job has had to worry about. Having your work limit your healthcare or reproductive options isn't something she's had to deal with.

You want to talk to Ann Romney about a campaign issue she might have had to deal with, talk to her about her views on motherhood, cancer treatment (but not the payment of as by the time she had it money was no issue), other things she may actually have some insight into. We would think it silly if Mitt said his wife was his source of info about Constitutionality of Supreme Court rulings, well she's no better source on the economic issues women in the workplace deal with than that.

 

[theeedude]

And so here we get down to the root of the matter. You (and Rosen) disagree with her politics, and this is what disqualifies her.

Yeah. Her politics would be a disaster for working women. Ryan budget gutting the safety net, plus repeal of Obamacare leaving many without ability to get health insurance they can afford.

 

[mect]

I think they were always rich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

They did grow up rich, but it appears that at least during their college years when they were first married they lived a pretty frugal life, living in a basement apartment. Granted, it is very different to live a frugal life knowing that should anything go wrong you have family to help you out compared to living a frugal life knowing if something goes wrong you might be out of a home.

 

[theeedude]

They went slumming together, how cute.

 

[mect]

While the Mitt and Ann themselves may not have always been rich, Mitt's family was very well off and he had a familial safety net and extensive opportunities that few have. And no one is even attacking Ann Romney either. The full quote in context, not just one sentence taken apart from others (Mitt seems to like to do that, like passing off Obama quoting another as Obama himself making a statement), shows what she was talking about. She was pointing out that Ann Romney is not a good source of information on the economic issues that women deal with. Equal pay for equal work isn't something a person who hasn't ever worked a paying job has had to worry about. Having your work limit your healthcare or reproductive options isn't something she's had to deal with.

You want to talk to Ann Romney about a campaign issue she might have had to deal with, talk to her about her views on motherhood, cancer treatment (but not the payment of as by the time she had it money was no issue), other things she may actually have some insight into. We would think it silly if Mitt said his wife was his source of info about Constitutionality of Supreme Court rulings, well she's no better source on the economic issues women in the workplace deal with than that.

You are still going off on how Ann shouldn't be a source of information concerning economic issues, and yet no one has yet demonstrated that either Mitt or Ann have ever claimed such. She has been a source of information on what issues women are concerned with. This is a very different thing and requires very different credentials.

 

[thraashman]

You are still going off on how Ann shouldn't be a source of information concerning economic issues, and yet no one has yet demonstrated that either Mitt or Ann have ever claimed such. She has been a source of information on what issues women are concerned with. This is a very different thing and requires very different credentials.

I'm referring to the whole quote that Rosen made which was:

“What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, ‘Well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues’ and, ‘When I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing,’” she said. “Guess what? His wife has never actually worked a day in her life. She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why we worry about their future."

Now, that's assuming that Mitt has made comments like what Rosen claims. I'm trying to find an example, but this current faux outrage is every result on google right now. If he didn't actually make a statement similar to what she claims, then there would actually be a reason to be upset because that would mean Rosen lied. Otherwise, Rosen is the one in the right here. But the GOP needs to deflect as much as possible due to their woeful record on women's issues and their horrendous behavior as of late in regards to women's issues.

 

[Zebo]

Yeah. Her politics would be a disaster for working women. Ryan budget gutting the safety net, plus repeal of Obamacare leaving many without ability to get health insurance they can afford.

Fine, then just say that, no cheap shot just because she's wealthy and basically dismissing/mocking Mrs. Romneys choice to be a housewife. They are totally unrelated.

Rosen would never say that about Rosalynn Carter for instance (another rich housewife with never a job)

 

[theeedude]

Fine, then just say that, no cheap shot just because she's wealthy and basically dismissing/mocking Mrs. Romneys choice to be a housewife. They are totally unrelated.

Her life experience shape her politics. She didn't have to go through cancer and MS while being dropped by her insurance. Maybe if she did, she would not be so supportive of Mitt repealing Obamacare's ban on preexisting condition exclusions.

 

[mect]

I'm referring to the whole quote that Rosen made which was:

“What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, ‘Well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues’ and, ‘When I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing,’” she said. “Guess what? His wife has never actually worked a day in her life. She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why we worry about their future."

Now, that's assuming that Mitt has made comments like what Rosen claims. I'm trying to find an example, but this current faux outrage is every result on google right now. If he didn't actually make a statement similar to what she claims, then there would actually be a reason to be upset because that would mean Rosen lied. Otherwise, Rosen is the one in the right here. But the GOP needs to deflect as much as possible due to their woeful record on women's issues and their horrendous behavior as of late in regards to women's issues.

Did you read what you posted? Mitt says Ann tells him that women really care about economic issues. The quote I believe she takes this from is:
"My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me," Romney told newspaper editors, "and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy."

I don't see how her lack of experience working outside of the home would disqualify Ann from interacting with people (particularly women) and determining what their concerns are. So in this context, especially considering the way it is worded, I can understand why Ann would be upset. As was previously pointed out, many others (including Michelle Obama, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina, David Axelrod, Obama’s top strategist, and Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager) agree that it was a very inappropriate comment.

 

[werepossum]

Everyone likes to blame the economy, but even poor families can have a stay at home mom, and still manage to have food and a roof over their heads.

My family gets by on $1500 a month. That pays for rent, car insurance, food, utilities, gas, clothing, etc and I still have internet.

The problem is, everyone likes to blame the top, but as with most things in life, their are issues at all levels.

If every person lived within their means, vs trying to live outside of it, paycheck to paycheck, then we wouldn't have nearly so much bitching about the rest of the economy.

I read on the news sob stories about a family of four, and both parents are having to work two jobs each to pay for their two children. And make rent etc. Then you see they live in a 5k square foot house, have four different brand new vehicles, etc, etc.

So it isn't just poor people, but you have people making 100k a year that live paycheck to paycheck also.

Very good point. My congratulations to your folks for putting family ahead of things.

Given the way Democrats are demonizing Romney and his charmed life, it's funny to think back a few years when they were all drooling over John Kerry as their hero du jour...

But, but, but, that's different!!!

LOL +1 It's the usual party game, your warmongering baby killer versus my self-sacrificing veteran, your evil rich out of touch elite versus my successful businessman.

While the Mitt and Ann themselves may not have always been rich, Mitt's family was very well off and he had a familial safety net and extensive opportunities that few have. And no one is even attacking Ann Romney either. The full quote in context, not just one sentence taken apart from others (Mitt seems to like to do that, like passing off Obama quoting another as Obama himself making a statement), shows what she was talking about. She was pointing out that Ann Romney is not a good source of information on the economic issues that women deal with. Equal pay for equal work isn't something a person who hasn't ever worked a paying job has had to worry about. Having your work limit your healthcare or reproductive options isn't something she's had to deal with.

You want to talk to Ann Romney about a campaign issue she might have had to deal with, talk to her about her views on motherhood, cancer treatment (but not the payment of as by the time she had it money was no issue), other things she may actually have some insight into. We would think it silly if Mitt said his wife was his source of info about Constitutionality of Supreme Court rulings, well she's no better source on the economic issues women in the workplace deal with than that.

That first is a valid point. While the Romneys started off poor as church mice, they did so with all the advantages of growing up wealthy - good nutrition, excellent habits to emulate, useful contacts, and an excellent education. Their parents no doubt understood that your children have to make it on their own, else they'll be worthless. (To quote Bill Cosby, "Your mother and I are rich. You, have nothing.") The Romneys lived in cheap apartments like everyone else, but with the knowledge that if true catastrophe struck, their parents would bail them out. There's a great security in that that most people never feel. Similarly, Romney probably never doubted that he'd find a very good job, or worried that if he lost his job he'd be unable to find another.

As to the other, that's a very bad point. Ann Romney has experienced raising children with very little money; that she now, as a grandmother, enjoys multiple houses with part time cleaning staff is a measure of the success of the Mitt-Ann team (albeit with the considerable advantages of coming from money.) The Romneys became millionaires by their own labors, and while that's certainly much easier coming from money it's by no means guaranteed. Anybody know what Al Gore III's doing nowadays? (I mean, that isn't court ordered.) Hint: It ain't making millions using his intelligence and education in the free market. But beyond that, Ann Romney has been meeting with women and discussing their concerns as part of the Romney campaign. Anyone stupid enough to believe that Ann Romney is somehow too divorced from "regular women" to understand their concerns deserves to be thrown under the bus, as Rosen has been.

 

[Zebo]

Her life experience shape her politics. She didn't have to go through cancer and MS while being dropped by her insurance. Maybe if she did, she would not be so supportive of Mitt repealing Obamacare's ban on preexisting condition exclusions.

You believe that? Then how do you explain FDR, Kennedys, Rockerfellers, Gates', Buffets' of the world? All Born rich all more liberal than Obama ever thought of being.

 

[theeedude]

You believe that? Then how do you explain FDR, Kennedys, Rockerfellers, Gates', Buffets' of the world? All Born rich all more liberal than Obama ever thought of being.

You don't believe that life experiences shape people's politics?

 

[Zebo]

You don't believe that life experiences shape people's politics?

Only partial. Moonie started a post on it recently.

I think it's a combination of who you are inside, logic, study or lack thereof, life experience, childhood and other factors to varying degrees that's why it's impossible to pigonhole ppl like Ms. Rosen is doing.

 

[Zebo]

And there's just plain ole selfish bottom dwellers. I don't want to work. I don't want to pay taxes. And they vote accordingly.

 

[shadow9d9]

Legislation restricting birth control or forcing unnecessary medical procedures to sham, or going on a 3 day tirade calling a woman a slut for speaking out against it= Someone saying that Romney never worked a day in her life. False equivalency is politics of the day for the republicans. Desperate and pathetic.

 

[theeedude]

Only partial. Moonie started a post on it recently.

I think it's a combination of who you are inside, logic, study or lack thereof, life experience, childhood and other factors to varying degrees that's why it's impossible to pigonhole ppl like Ms. Rosen is doing.

Pigeonhole no, but correlate, yes.
Romney wants to overturn Obamacare, which will allow insurers to rescind coverage for sick women. He wants to get rid of Planned Parenthood, where a lot of working poor women get their preventative health care. He supports the Ryan plan, which would gut the social safety net for low income women to make room for huge tax cuts for people like the Romneys. He supports the Blunt Amendment, which would let employers drop coverage for women's health services they find objectionable.
She is supporting him in this. If she is in touch with working women's issues, she surely has a funny way of showing it.

 

[nageov3t]

Romney wants to overturn Obamacare, which will allow insurers to rescind coverage for sick women. He wants to get rid of Planned Parenthood, where a lot of working poor women get their preventative health care. He supports the Ryan plan, which would gut the social safety net for low income women to make room for huge tax cuts for people like the Romneys. He supports the Blunt Amendment, which would let employers drop coverage for women's health services they find objectionable.

aren't those, um... people issues, not women issues?

 

[theeedude]

aren't those, um... people issues, not women issues?

True, but women put higher importance on these issues. Health care is #1 issue for women, only #3 for men.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-04-01/swing-states-poll/53930684/1
For Romney to say he wants to get rid of Planned Parenthood is basically saying that the radical right is more important than millions of women who get their physicals and preventative care there.

 

[marincounty]

Mitt has admitted he hasn't really worked in years, outside of some public speaking where he was paid a paltry $250,000 I think. Is the assertion by Rosen correct, that Mrs. Romney has never held a real job? If this is untrue why don't the Romneys release the record of Mrs. Romney's employment and set the record straight?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Uh oh, you just committed a greater sin than Rosen, raising kids is a "real job."

And it was closer to $350K if I remember correctly.