Oh I see, can you deny that a lot of conservative Jews are not republican? and I said WASPs too, so now I hate white people too? The Anti-Semetism card is getting old buddy. You cannot even say Jew without someone jumping on you. And I never blamed them for anything, I just said that gov. policies are not geared towards them b/c they support a lot of them. I can't help it if that's too much for you to comprehend.
Yeah, I just pointed out your hated for Jews.. I forgot to mention the White Protestant hatred as well.. I'm sorry.. I think your true colors have shown here.
Yeah, because they are of a certain religion and happen to be Republican, I hate them. Not to mention the fact that I am white, so I hate myself as well. Thank you for your insight into my character, you have finally shown me what an evil person I am. Kudos.
You are the one labeling all Jews & Protestants as Conservative and Republicans.. not me.. Making generalizations based soley on religious beliefs is what you did.. which kind of defines racism.. or, wait, thats right.. its not possible to be a racist if you are a liberal.. Only conservatives can be bigots..
Let me guess, the next thing you are going to tell me is you are Protestant? Its amazing how you add in all these little details to help your argument after the fact.. "I hate Republicans - But I once was one! - I hate WASPs, BUT I AM WHITE!".. what next? Your a jewish protestant?
Freedom of speech means you have the right to express your opinion and not get punish or harrass for it. If you disagree with thier opinion, fine, say it just don't have to say it in a way as it becomes harrassing, because that showed that you don't actually care about freedom of speech, just want others to say what you want to hear, but then again, we Americans are a bunch of hypocrite right?
anyway, LilBlinBlahIce, I can see your point of view and don't let the other fools discourage you from expressing it on another forum or occasions...
anyway, LilBlinBlahIce, I can see your point of view and don't let the other fools discourage you from expressing it on another forum or occasions...
Wow, when did you drop out of high school? I clearly said WASPS and CONSERVATIVE Jews, there is a difference, most LIBERAL jews tend to identify with the Democrats. And do you even know what a WASP is? White Anglo Saxon Protestant, not all white people are WASPS. I am not a protestant, and what do you mean adding little things? It never occured to me to point out that I was white. Besides, can you deny the racial and religious MAJORITY that constitutes the Republican party? And I never said I hate anyone, so don't put words in my mouth. PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Nope Freedom of speech means the Gov't isn't supposed to repress your rights to speak. Freedom of speech doesn't protect your garbage spewing pie hole from retribution by other members of society.
CkG
No it doesn't. It means the government cannot make a law abridging the right to free speech nor punish someone for exercising same.
AAjax
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I dunno, the Democrats give great lip service (or so I hear
) to the fact they are for the little guy, however their policys keep them down by drowning them in layers of social service that in the end do nothing to build the downtroden up to their potential. As the saying go's give the man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him to fish (be self sufficiant) and he eats for a lifetime. Im personally a libertarian and have my bones to pick with each of the two major parties but have come to view the democrats as world class hippocrates who prey on the weak. At least the rebulicans are pretty clear in their intentions.
Well I guess thats my 44 1/2 cents
With that and the war winding down I think its time for me to take a vacation from the troll ridden underbelly of AT that is the war and the middle east forum for awhile
Jax out
What will happen..
1. Dixie Chickes get a lot of extra publicity - net big plus for DC
2. a few loonies make a big ruckus about their opinion of Bush- net small minus for DC
3. lots of people who agree with Dixie Chicks will go out of their way to support them- net another big plus for DC
4. most people who disagree with Dixie Chick's statement but like their music will still support them -net no affect on DC
So the bottom line is Dixie Chicks will do great !
1. Dixie Chickes get a lot of extra publicity - net big plus for DC
2. a few loonies make a big ruckus about their opinion of Bush- net small minus for DC
3. lots of people who agree with Dixie Chicks will go out of their way to support them- net another big plus for DC
4. most people who disagree with Dixie Chick's statement but like their music will still support them -net no affect on DC
So the bottom line is Dixie Chicks will do great !
Freedom of speech is not free from the consequences of other people using their right of free speech in return.
CADkindaGUY and NightTrain you both sounded like smart-a$$ defense lawyers arguing for the exact wording of the law instead of understanding the spirit of the law...
bet you score straight A in law school and have lots of expensive criminal clients
btw, I'm in the harrassing mode right now since they don't agree with my opinion
bet you score straight A in law school and have lots of expensive criminal clients
btw, I'm in the harrassing mode right now since they don't agree with my opinion
Possibly, and it was all over a "joke"
Natalie Maines Says President Remark Was A 'Joke'
(4/3/03, 3 p.m. ET) -- Dixie Chick Natalie Maines told a New Zealand TV reporter last week that her now-infamous slam at President George W. Bush was a joke.
Maines admitted that she told a London concert audience that the group was ashamed that the President is from their home state of Texas, but added, "It was a joke and it wasn't planned. And it was really funny at the time. It got lots of cheers, and that's what it was meant for. You see the trouble that you can get into if you speak religion or politics. It gets people very upset."
Maines issued a written apology after making the remark at a March 10 concert, but stations continued to ban the Chicks' music on radio stations across the country.
In addition, the Dixie Chicks' Home album saw a more than 40 percent decline in sales after Maines's remark.
-- Nancy Brooks, Nashville"
We don't need to discuss free speech, we need to discuss what is or is not humerous!
sMiLeYz
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Republicans traditionally stood for limiting the size of government, I dunno about you... but our current republican administration has significantly increased the involvement of government in our lives as Americans.
I dont see why Republicans arent up and in arms about John Ashcroft and his new laws, which were passed with out much ado due to war on terrorism. They seem to be fudamentally opposite of what conservatives stand for.
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I like the dixie chicks, they're fun gals and I like them more since they're not afraid to speak their mind.
I dont see why Republicans arent up and in arms about John Ashcroft and his new laws, which were passed with out much ado due to war on terrorism. They seem to be fudamentally opposite of what conservatives stand for.
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I like the dixie chicks, they're fun gals and I like them more since they're not afraid to speak their mind.
plus it's not like people who won't let their kids stay with MJ overnight tried to curb his (MJ) freedom of speech or attacking him for what he say...
KK
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No they haven't, and no one did to the dixie chicks either. Tell me one example of where someone did not allow them to speak? Now what do people think about them is kinda like how people feel about MJ just on another level. You can do what ever you want, you act like a jackass to someone, you will be presumed to be a jackass.
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Bump for updated title...
Personally, I think what Natalie said was pretty stupid, especially if she had any idea of the demographics of their fan base... (& she should have been well aware of the demographics).
They have the right to say pretty well anything they want, and I support that right, however, I have the right to vote with my $ in support of my opinions.
Has anyone emailed SNL to let them know how you feel?
Personally, I think what Natalie said was pretty stupid, especially if she had any idea of the demographics of their fan base... (& she should have been well aware of the demographics).
They have the right to say pretty well anything they want, and I support that right, however, I have the right to vote with my $ in support of my opinions.
Has anyone emailed SNL to let them know how you feel?
I never heard of them until the conservatives needed more fuel for their anger.
I like their version of 'Landslide.'
I like their version of 'Landslide.'
Red Dawn
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I boycott the Dixie Chicks, not because of their opinions regarding Dubya (like I could give a damn what others thing of him) but because their music sucks. Of course I don't listen too or buy DMB music either for the same reason. Frankly I think boycotting someone based on their political opinions is nothing more than a foolish knee jerk reaction and I think that anybody who would advocate that others Email SNL to complain about them having the DC's as guests are narrow minded morons.
However, being a Moron is allowed by the first amendment and if other want to follow suit then that's their right.
However, being a Moron is allowed by the first amendment and if other want to follow suit then that's their right.
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