Discrimination in the name of religion

[woolfe9999]

Because minorities are a liberal interest group and whites are not.

White people are the dominant group in this country. The concept of "interest group" is irrelevant here. Unless you consider that the GOP represents "white people" as their interest group, along with men and Christians, and the wealthy. All groups in dire need of special representation, I'm sure.

 

[HAL9000]

I don't think it is allowed that much in other parts of the world.

 

[fskimospy]

Funny that the inherent cultural and social advantages of white people doesnt seem to be keeping asians down

Asians doing well does not preclude white privilege or anti black prejudice.

 

[kylebisme]

They are all Jews, no whites there.

They are as white as these people are black, being Jewish does nothing to change that.

I never understood the Hasidics placing women in an inferior position.

See here.

 

[HAL9000]

White people are the dominant group in this country. The concept of "interest group" is irrelevant here. Unless you consider that the GOP represents "white people" as their interest group, along with men and Christians, and the wealthy. All groups in dire need of special representation, I'm sure.

Christians are the dominant religion and yet they can have "Christian only parties"....

 

[cybrsage]

They are as white as these people are black, being Jewish does nothing to change that.

U.S. Supreme Court

Shaare Tefila Congregation v. Cobb, 481 U.S. 615 (1987)

Shaare Tefila Congregation v. Cobb
No. 85-2156
Argued February 25, 1987
Decided May 18, 1987
481 U.S. 615

CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR
THE FOURTH CIRCUIT

2. Jews can state a § 1982 claim of racial discrimination, since they were among the peoples considered to be distinct races, and hence within the protection of the statute at the time it was passed.

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/481/615/case.html

In the US, Jew is a race.

See here.

Stupid list...when I married my wife, I said "I do" to a sentence which started "Do you take this woman..." According to that list, this means I was demeaning her.

 

[nehalem256]

Asians doing well does not preclude white privilege or anti black prejudice.

It kinda does preclude white privilege, unless you want to modify to say white/asian privilege. Somehow I doubt liberals will start referring to it as such anytime soon.

 

[fskimospy]

It kinda does preclude white privilege, unless you want to modify to say white/asian privilege. Somehow I doubt liberals will start referring to it as such anytime soon.

It kinda doesn't at all. Privilege is not the sole determinant of personal income, nor is personal income the sole determinant of well being.

Furthermore, white privilege is about more than simply skin color, it is actually an ethnic and cultural societal bias that happens to come from concepts of middle to upper class white America. This is why you will see certain 'redneck' cultures like those in Appalachia that have diminished access to this, etc, etc. Anyways, it's a long discussion that I'm not particularly interested in having with you.

If you're trying to deny that cultural and racial bias exists in America, you're simply delusional.

 

[nehalem256]

It kinda doesn't at all. Privilege is not the sole determinant of personal income, nor is personal income the sole determinant of well being.

Furthermore, white privilege is about more than simply skin color, it is actually an ethnic and cultural societal bias that happens to come from concepts of middle to upper class white America. This is why you will see certain 'redneck' cultures like those in Appalachia that have diminished access to this, etc, etc. Anyways, it's a long discussion that I'm not particularly interested in having with you.

If you're trying to deny that cultural and racial bias exists in America, you're simply delusional.

So white privilege doesnt even include all white people (meaning it leaves out large chunks of white people)

I think you need to come up with a new name for "white" privilege

 

[fskimospy]

So white privilege doesnt even include all white people (meaning it leaves out large chunks of white people)

I think you need to come up with a new name for "white" privilege

No I definitely don't need to come up with a new name. I'm happy to see you aren't contesting that racial and cultural privilege exists in America though, this is an important first step!

 

[nehalem256]

No I definitely don't need to come up with a new name. I'm happy to see you aren't contesting that racial and cultural privilege exists in America though, this is an important first step!

There is no racial privilege.

See higher incomes for Asians.

See your admittance that large numbers of white dont have "white" privilege.

 

[alzan]

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/481/615/case.html

In the US, Jew is a race.




Stupid list...when I married my wife, I said "I do" to a sentence which started "Do you take this woman..." According to that list, this means I was demeaning her.

Well I guess my wife and I demeaned each other, at least according to your view. Cause we both answered "I do" to that same question posed to each of us in turn, gender specific.

 

[fskimospy]

There is no racial privilege.

See higher incomes for Asians.

See your admittance that large numbers of white dont have "white" privilege.

You are simply factually wrong. There is a great deal of scientific literature on this topic, I suggest you go educate yourself before looking dumb again.

 

[kylebisme]

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/481/615/case.html

In the US, Jew is a race.

Note the "at the time it was passed," and the sentence directly following what you quoted:

They are not foreclosed from stating a cause of action simply because the defendants are also part of what today is considered the Caucasian race.

In other words, the Jews in that case were white. The ones in the picture from Mets stadium are too.

Stupid list...when I married my wife, I said "I do" to a sentence which started "Do you take this woman..." According to that list, this means I was demeaning her.

Stupid argument, it doesn't follow from anything on that list.

 

[cybrsage]

Well I guess my wife and I demeaned each other, at least according to your view. Cause we both answered "I do" to that same question posed to each of us in turn, gender specific.

Kyleb provided the list. We both agree the list is stupid, and for the same reason.

 

[cybrsage]

Stupid argument, it doesn't follow from anything on that list.

Have you ever read the list? You should read items 20 and 21.

 

[cybrsage]

Note the "at the time it was passed," and the sentence directly following what you quoted:


In other words, the Jews in that case were white. The ones in the picture from Mets stadium are too.

Ah, missed that part. They are both of the Caucasian race and the Jewish race.

 

[Gunslinger08]

First off, it's a private group meeting at a private location. They can do whatever they want.

Secondly, you're only ever going to get outrage over majority groups shunning minorities. Nobody cares about black groups not allowing whites, women's groups not allowing men, etc.

 

[Texashiker]

First off, it's a private group meeting at a private location. They can do whatever they want.

To debate that "private location" excuse, mets field receives a good bit of tax breaks from the local government. I have been unable to find whether or not mets field received any public money.

This is not someones home, or a private club we are talking about. This is a business that is open to the public. Anyone can go to mets field and buy a ticket, so its not like its a private club.

How about a cafe that does whites only sundays? Would that be ok?

 

[Gunslinger08]

To debate that "private location" excuse, mets field receives a good bit of tax breaks from the local government. I have been unable to find whether or not mets field received any public money.

This is not someones home, or a private club we are talking about. This is a business that is open to the public. Anyone can go to mets field and buy a ticket, so its not like its a private club.

How about a cafe that does whites only sundays? Would that be ok?

See the second part of my post above. It depends on how you define "ok." Legally? Sure. In the public eye? No. That's the majority shunning a minority. The other way around? Nobody would care.

 

[peonyu]

So white privilege doesnt even include all white people (meaning it leaves out large chunks of white people)

I think you need to come up with a new name for "white" privilege

Hes trying to say that "people" who act like thugs or similar pieces of shit are discriminated against in the upper tier of American society. Big shocker I know. Most Rednecks fit that bill to, and a huge swath of the black population fits that bill to [go to Detroit, Chicago, inner city Boston for a day or two and be surprised].

 

[nehalem256]

Hes trying to say that "people" who act like thugs or similar pieces of shit are discriminated against in the upper tier of American society. Big shocker I know. Most Rednecks fit that bill to, and a huge swath of the black population fits that bill to [go to Detroit, Chicago, inner city Boston for a day or two and be surprised].

So its really civilized people privilege :\

 

[jackstar7]

So its really civilized people privilege :\

Is everyone born in a situation where they can be "civilized" as you define the word?

 

[Texashiker]

Hes trying to say that "people" who act like thugs or similar pieces of shit are discriminated against in the upper tier of American society. Big shocker I know. Most Rednecks fit that bill to, .

Do you know where the term "redneck" comes from?

Its original meaning was for people who worked the fields. Since they worked bent over in the fields, the back of their neck would get sunburned.

Thus the name "redneck".

Being a redneck has nothing to do with being a "thug".

If anything, redneck is the opposite of thug; as rednecks are hard workers who do physical labor.

Redneck = work for their money

Thug = steal for their money

 

[nehalem256]

Is everyone born in a situation where they can be "civilized" as you define the word?

Nope, but as has been clearly pointed out it is not a matter of race.