Difference between Marine and Army?

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Nanotech

Originally posted by: HorizonSeekerII

Originally posted by: Nanotech
In short he said that if Marines were stationed at the base where all photos depicting prisoners in compromising positions came from than we never even would have heard about the pictures because they simply would not have allowed camera's on the premise and thus would never have been taken.

i don't want to be rude, but your comment paraphrasing your friend's comment is not exactly casting him in a positive light. is he saying that the photos would never have come out and the abuse would have continued unabated or that the abuse would not have happened in the first place? from the way you wrote your post, it sounded like the former rather than the latter.

All my friend was saying is that the lower ranking members of the Army lack discipline which pisses him off!

However, it is my belief that this particular base where these pictures are coming from is not the only base where sh!t like that is going down and I highly doubt it is the first time our military has carried out such practices. Although, it probably is the first time a camera was allowed inside such a prison.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=5&u=/ap/20040603/ap_on_re_mi_ea/prisoner_abuse_marines_2

Marines are guilty of it too

I kind of look at it this way: Marines have done a LOT worse to their own in the name of discipline. Is it condoned by the organization? No. But hazing is still alive and well, despite all the talks and news blips and annual training that it's bad for the organization.

And we must also see it from the Marine's point of view. Say a man dressed in civilian garb suddenly pulls out an AK47 and kills your buddies right in front of you. But as soon as you draw your weapon, he surrenders. You can do nothing but throw him in "prison," which is likely better living conditions than he's been living all his life. Or say he gets away. And when you return to base the prisoners being held captive laugh at you and tell you that they're glad your friends died becaue allah wanted it that way. I'm not saying that these actions were necessarily motivated by revenge or ill will. But a lot of things go on in a war zone that we don't see or understand sitting here in our safe, comfortable, air-conditioned houses.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Generally the USAF PJs are regarded as pretty damn 1337.

I agree to the above.

Me personally, I'm headin to Ft. Cambell to join the 101st Airborne next week as a Military Police officer (that I'm already trained as). I'd laugh if anyone would call me a wuss. I cant wait for Air Assault training.

The biggest selling point on the Army is that when you sign your contract, you have your EXACT job. Like, if you sign on as a Blackhawk mechanic, thats what you'll do. If you join the Air Force as a mechanic, you could be a toilet mechanic, or for a F22, but thats just the luck of the draw. With the Marines, good luck. They will change your job on the fly, and definitly do.

Yah big wuss

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: DJFuji
never heard of 'em. You're not talking about delta force are you? I have a security clearance but the military's motto on classified info is "you're on a need-to-know basis, and you DONT NEED TO KNOW."

Oh, and delta force isn't a secret thing. There are most certainly other secretive spec ops groups. Several joint branch teams exist. The fact that they exist is not a secret, but where, why, numbers, goals, tasks, training sure is.

Not secret in that the whole world knows about them, no. But I think it's only been recently that the Army has confirmed its existence. For a long time there the Army refused to admit delta force existed. The military has a LOT of crazy classified stuff out there. I just saw a few things and they blew me away. And i know that's just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[eldorado99]

hmm, i could have sworn that the green berets havnt existed for years; they are now the seals?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: TallBill

Generally the USAF PJs are regarded as pretty damn 1337.

I agree to the above.

Me personally, I'm headin to Ft. Cambell to join the 101st Airborne next week as a Military Police officer (that I'm already trained as). I'd laugh if anyone would call me a wuss. I cant wait for Air Assault training.

The biggest selling point on the Army is that when you sign your contract, you have your EXACT job. Like, if you sign on as a Blackhawk mechanic, thats what you'll do. If you join the Air Force as a mechanic, you could be a toilet mechanic, or for a F22, but thats just the luck of the draw. With the Marines, good luck. They will change your job on the fly, and definitly do.

Yah big wuss

Cheers,
Aquaman

lol, got a good laugh out of that.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: eldorado99
hmm, i could have sworn that the green berets havnt existed for years; they are now the seals?

Do some reading here at Socom

 

[EMPshockwave82]

marines = = teh shiz