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miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Right now, we are no more and no less safe than we were before 9/11. What's that say about how effective Bush has been as a President? Actually, I'd say we really are less safe.

You may be right. But one has to consider that the Bush administration has not let another attack happen on America since 9/11.

Some might say the Iraq war created more terrorists, but i dont. those that were going to be terrorists anyway didnt care about the Iraq war. and those that hated us in the Arab and muslim world, hate us whether we went to war with Iraq or not.

but i think we could do a better public relations campaign with the muslim world, to help them better understand us.

It is true. They hated us so much before 9/11, it would be impossible for them to hate us any more. They have hated everyone not Muslim for 1400 years.

What an idiotic response. I hope it was being sarcastic. If not you sir are a fool.

History says that they have never accepted any religion but theirs and believe that it is proper to enslave or destroy the non-believers.

Really? Tell that to all the Westerners who go to the Muslim nations each year. Tell that to the non-Muslims living in their country.

Your history is flawed. History also says the white man hates blacks :roll:

You are the scholor on the Koran, you tell us what it says. This has all been covered here before and you and Sultan were very enlighting.

and I have said what about the Quran that makes you think Muslims are evil?

If you think I am out to kill you call the FBI. Also make sure you call the FBI because my parents work for the government.

Don't forget to tell the FBI there are 6-7 million terrorist in the United States.

When they hang up on you and laugh please tell me. I'd like a laugh.

Even Sultan the crazy guy who is being watched by the FBI is not out to get you or anyone else who is not Muslim. He is the most extreme Muslim on this board and if you honestly find him a threat then I pray you don't teach your daugther these values.

I didn't say that I thought that they are evil. I said that throughout history, Muslims have been trying to take over the world. The first time I realized this was in the museums in Vienna. Muslims had nearly captured Europe and had surrounded Vienna before they were beaten back. Say is isn't so! Now back to what the Koran says on the subject. I remember one posting where you thought you were being watched by the FBI.

Just becasue they have a very corrupt sultan on the warpath in history does not make them trying to take over the world. Seems to me Wein has been sacked MANY times by xtrians...
So can you admit that xtrians are trying to take over the world then?

Not for 1400 years!

yeah, christians have been at it for 2000 years.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Wrong, plz read SOMETHING about muslims before you post this crap. Muslims have lived with other religions for ages. jews used to even be their ally.
If I remember the Koran says specificly not to hassle other religions as long as they pay tax and follow laws of the land.
That would be xtrians that have never accepted any religion but theirs and believe that it is proper to enslave or destroy the non-believers

umm ... muslims got along with hindus?? well no because Pakistan is a fake country that was carved out of India because muslims couldnt get along with hindus

the Phillipines ... the muslims in the south Mindinao (sp?) want to create their own separate muslim nation separate from the catholic majority and have been waging a war there.

Russia? well lets not even get into it, as you clearly saw those peaceful muslims on tv a few months ago.

oh and how peaceful they were, taking a school hostage and killing a few hundred children

i could go on and on about how muslims cannot get along with others of different faith etc, but i think thats it for now


Of course you have no idea what the russians have been doing to the muslims.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dgevert
Originally posted by: raildogg
ok democrats arent liberals, but majority of liberals vote democratic, no?

and democratic party has sharply moved to the left, they need more people like Lieberman in power rather than Pelosi, the hard lefty from San Fran.

speaking of the democratic party, I think Howard Dean is a great choice for DNC Chairman, he was a great candidate, it was really sad how the other democrats smeared him

Howard Dean will bring new life into the democratic party, which it really needs in the worst way. I really respect the man, he says whats on his mind, people like him are rare in politics

You don't know what a liberal even is. How surprising.

sure I do, its a really generous person, give much more than needed. a lib wants a large govt and reduce defense spending, instead put more people on welfare

i know i wont satisfy you with this, so whats your definition of a liberal?

SWING AND A MISS.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.

I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.

:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Wrong, plz read SOMETHING about muslims before you post this crap. Muslims have lived with other religions for ages. jews used to even be their ally.
If I remember the Koran says specificly not to hassle other religions as long as they pay tax and follow laws of the land.
That would be xtrians that have never accepted any religion but theirs and believe that it is proper to enslave or destroy the non-believers

umm ... muslims got along with hindus?? well no because Pakistan is a fake country that was carved out of India because muslims couldnt get along with hindus

the Phillipines ... the muslims in the south Mindinao (sp?) want to create their own separate muslim nation separate from the catholic majority and have been waging a war there.

Russia? well lets not even get into it, as you clearly saw those peaceful muslims on tv a few months ago.

oh and how peaceful they were, taking a school hostage and killing a few hundred children

i could go on and on about how muslims cannot get along with others of different faith etc, but i think thats it for now

Pakistan is now a fake country? You make me sick. You have turned P&N into your own political agenda to spread your hate that you picked up in your country. So far it is failing.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.

I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.

:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.

tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.

I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.

:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.

tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger

LOL.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.

I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.

:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.

tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger

3000 in 9/11 is a drop in the pond compared to the estimated 100,000 civilian casualties so far in Iraq. You can thank the Bush administration for reducing 9/11 to a mere talking point in the sham war on terror.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.
I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.
:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.
tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger
I'm more concerned with tsunamis. 157,000 dead and counting. Probably have a greater chance of being killed in one on the beach than I do being killed by a terrorist.

I live my life like I always have. To do so otherwise means the terrorists have won.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.
I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.
:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.
tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger
I'm more concerned with tsunamis. 157,000 dead and counting. Probably have a greater chance of being killed in one on the beach than I do being killed by a terrorist.

I live my life like I always have. To do so otherwise means the terrorists have won.

you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: raildogg
and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in

Oh yes, the infamous "they hate freedom" line. A great Bushism :roll:
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.
I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.
:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.
tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger
I'm more concerned with tsunamis. 157,000 dead and counting. Probably have a greater chance of being killed in one on the beach than I do being killed by a terrorist.

I live my life like I always have. To do so otherwise means the terrorists have won.

you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.

You do know Muslims are people right. They communicate with other people. They don't put their head down go to school and come home. They are in the society. If you wish to isolate yourself from them simply because of their religion then that is your problem. Other people don't care what race/religion someone is and they communicate with them.

You should try it.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
You can never stop terrorism. Not unless you built a 500' wall around the entire country and kept a flotilla of ships and subs all around the waters off the coast and stopped all incoming trade. Even then, you're not immune to terrorism from within.

And, a tsunami on the eastern seaboard would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of damage. It's not like Miami is 100' above sea level or Charleston or Savannah or Virginia Beach or...
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
You can never stop terrorism. Not unless you built a 500' wall around the entire country and kept a flotilla of ships and subs all around the waters off the coast and stopped all incoming trade. Even then, you're not immune to terrorism from within.

And, a tsunami on the eastern seaboard would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of damage. It's not like Miami is 100' above sea level or Charleston or Savannah or Virginia Beach or...

well chance of tsunami on the east coast is realllyyy slim, and if it ever happens, i doubt miami would get hit. West coasters have to worry however

I agree that you cant stop every terrorist attack, but we can certainly stop some, you must agree with that. Like on the New Years celebrations in 2000, a attentive cop stopped a radical muslim trying to get dyno into Washington from Vancouver. Now thats just one example of preventing a attack.

Also people are crying and whining about detaining so many people after 9/11, well maybe they are in detention because they are suspected of aiding terrorists??
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.
I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.
:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.
tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger
I'm more concerned with tsunamis. 157,000 dead and counting. Probably have a greater chance of being killed in one on the beach than I do being killed by a terrorist.

I live my life like I always have. To do so otherwise means the terrorists have won.

you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.

You do know Muslims are people right. They communicate with other people. They don't put their head down go to school and come home. They are in the society. If you wish to isolate yourself from them simply because of their religion then that is your problem. Other people don't care what race/religion someone is and they communicate with them.

You should try it.

wtf is that? what does that have to do with anything?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
You can never stop terrorism. Not unless you built a 500' wall around the entire country and kept a flotilla of ships and subs all around the waters off the coast and stopped all incoming trade. Even then, you're not immune to terrorism from within.

And, a tsunami on the eastern seaboard would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of damage. It's not like Miami is 100' above sea level or Charleston or Savannah or Virginia Beach or...
well chance of tsunami on the east coast is realllyyy slim, and if it ever happens, i doubt miami would get hit. West coasters have to worry however
A wave hit Daytona Beach about 10-15 years ago. Washed across the beach, through the hotel parking lots and across A1A.

I agree that you cant stop every terrorist attack, but we can certainly stop some, you must agree with that. Like on the New Years celebrations in 2000, a attentive cop stopped a radical muslim trying to get dyno into Washington from Vancouver. Now thats just one example of preventing a attack.
Going to give credit to the Clinton administration or does Bush somehow grab the glory for nabbing Ressam?

Also people are crying and whining about detaining so many people after 9/11, well maybe they are in detention because they are suspected of aiding terrorists??
"Suspected" being the key. And held, in some cases, without access to an attorney. Does that strike you as Constitutional?
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 happened because we were sleeping while the terrorists were planning the attacks. Our intelligence services failed us, but the sad thing is that noone was held accountable for it.
I would rather live one day as a free man than my whole life worrying if some idiot is going to blow me up tomorrow. I seriously don't care about terrorism anymore.
:thumbsup:

Terrorism is a minor matter at best.
tell that to the 3000 dead on 9/11, jerk

minor at best??? wow you really dont understand these muslim radicals want to eliminate you, whether your a libby or a right winger
I'm more concerned with tsunamis. 157,000 dead and counting. Probably have a greater chance of being killed in one on the beach than I do being killed by a terrorist.

I live my life like I always have. To do so otherwise means the terrorists have won.

you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.

You do know Muslims are people right. They communicate with other people. They don't put their head down go to school and come home. They are in the society. If you wish to isolate yourself from them simply because of their religion then that is your problem. Other people don't care what race/religion someone is and they communicate with them.

You should try it.

wtf is that? what does that have to do with anything?

Yes you said "be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in"

Be aware of who? Lol.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
You can never stop terrorism. Not unless you built a 500' wall around the entire country and kept a flotilla of ships and subs all around the waters off the coast and stopped all incoming trade. Even then, you're not immune to terrorism from within.

And, a tsunami on the eastern seaboard would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of damage. It's not like Miami is 100' above sea level or Charleston or Savannah or Virginia Beach or...
well chance of tsunami on the east coast is realllyyy slim, and if it ever happens, i doubt miami would get hit. West coasters have to worry however
A wave hit Daytona Beach about 10-15 years ago. Washed across the beach, through the hotel parking lots and across A1A.

I agree that you cant stop every terrorist attack, but we can certainly stop some, you must agree with that. Like on the New Years celebrations in 2000, a attentive cop stopped a radical muslim trying to get dyno into Washington from Vancouver. Now thats just one example of preventing a attack.
Going to give credit to the Clinton administration or does Bush somehow grab the glory for nabbing Ressam?

Also people are crying and whining about detaining so many people after 9/11, well maybe they are in detention because they are suspected of aiding terrorists??
"Suspected" being the key. And held, in some cases, without access to an attorney. Does that strike you as Constitutional?

there are strong waves daily across the world, im talking about a tsunami. there is a difference

Well Ressam was captured during Clinton, so you could give him credit. But I dont care if a dem is in power or a repub, as long as they do all they can to stop terrorists from killing more Americans.

 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
You can never stop terrorism. Not unless you built a 500' wall around the entire country and kept a flotilla of ships and subs all around the waters off the coast and stopped all incoming trade. Even then, you're not immune to terrorism from within.

And, a tsunami on the eastern seaboard would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of damage. It's not like Miami is 100' above sea level or Charleston or Savannah or Virginia Beach or...
well chance of tsunami on the east coast is realllyyy slim, and if it ever happens, i doubt miami would get hit. West coasters have to worry however
A wave hit Daytona Beach about 10-15 years ago. Washed across the beach, through the hotel parking lots and across A1A.

I agree that you cant stop every terrorist attack, but we can certainly stop some, you must agree with that. Like on the New Years celebrations in 2000, a attentive cop stopped a radical muslim trying to get dyno into Washington from Vancouver. Now thats just one example of preventing a attack.
Going to give credit to the Clinton administration or does Bush somehow grab the glory for nabbing Ressam?

Also people are crying and whining about detaining so many people after 9/11, well maybe they are in detention because they are suspected of aiding terrorists??
"Suspected" being the key. And held, in some cases, without access to an attorney. Does that strike you as Constitutional?
there are strong waves daily across the world, im talking about a tsunami. there is a difference
So am I. This wave was caused by an underwater landslide off the Florida coast.

Well Ressam was captured during Clinton, so you could give him credit. But I dont care if a dem is in power or a repub, as long as they do all they can to stop terrorists from killing more Americans.
I agree but Bush isn't doing all he can.

What's he done for Homeland Security? How are our borders, ports, chemical/nuclear plants safer?

The only thing I see different is, at the airport, I have to show my boarding pass three times in a 20' span and take off my shoes.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
you cant compare terrorists to tsunami's, besides most Americans live way inland to worry about them.

Terrorism can be prevented to a great, tsunami's are created by mother nature, and we are powerless against mother nature. Sure, live your life like you always have, but be aware of your surroundings, and realize certain people hate you for what you believe in.
You can never stop terrorism. Not unless you built a 500' wall around the entire country and kept a flotilla of ships and subs all around the waters off the coast and stopped all incoming trade. Even then, you're not immune to terrorism from within.

And, a tsunami on the eastern seaboard would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of damage. It's not like Miami is 100' above sea level or Charleston or Savannah or Virginia Beach or...
well chance of tsunami on the east coast is realllyyy slim, and if it ever happens, i doubt miami would get hit. West coasters have to worry however
A wave hit Daytona Beach about 10-15 years ago. Washed across the beach, through the hotel parking lots and across A1A.

I agree that you cant stop every terrorist attack, but we can certainly stop some, you must agree with that. Like on the New Years celebrations in 2000, a attentive cop stopped a radical muslim trying to get dyno into Washington from Vancouver. Now thats just one example of preventing a attack.
Going to give credit to the Clinton administration or does Bush somehow grab the glory for nabbing Ressam?

Also people are crying and whining about detaining so many people after 9/11, well maybe they are in detention because they are suspected of aiding terrorists??
"Suspected" being the key. And held, in some cases, without access to an attorney. Does that strike you as Constitutional?
there are strong waves daily across the world, im talking about a tsunami. there is a difference
So am I. This wave was caused by an underwater landslide off the Florida coast.

Well Ressam was captured during Clinton, so you could give him credit. But I dont care if a dem is in power or a repub, as long as they do all they can to stop terrorists from killing more Americans.
I agree but Bush isn't doing all he can.

What's he done for Homeland Security? How are our borders, ports, chemical/nuclear plants safer?

The only thing I see different is, at the airport, I have to show my boarding pass three times in a 20' span and take off my shoes.

very right, Bush has failed us in terms of securing the ports. Over 90% of containers in the ports arent examined. A radical muslim extremist could easily slip radioactive material in there or even a small nuke. Thats a big letdown.

Our borders are still very porous, but I think the Canadian border is less secure than the Mexican border. As its much longer and there is really some bad terrain there. Thousands of mexicans sneak accross the border on a daily basis, so a terrorist can easily slip through.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: dgevert
"Don't forget 9/11" he says.

WTF does 9/11 have to do with the war in Iraq? NOTHING! Iraq had NOTHING to do with it. Hussein had NOTHING to do with it.

I'm sick of hearing this claim.

And we are sick of listening to crap like that.

Obviously Saddam did have a part in there. Have you ever wondered why the White House does not release every single bit of intelligence out to the American People. We had our reasons. You are putting Hussein up on a pedestal here, do you think he is a good guy or something. What about the genocide on those Kurds. What about the Terrorists he was hardboring. What about the invasion of Kuat... no we made the right moves.

-Kevin
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: dgevert
"Don't forget 9/11" he says.

WTF does 9/11 have to do with the war in Iraq? NOTHING! Iraq had NOTHING to do with it. Hussein had NOTHING to do with it.

I'm sick of hearing this claim.

And we are sick of listening to crap like that.

Obviously Saddam did have a part in there. Have you ever wondered why the White House does not release every single bit of intelligence out to the American People. We had our reasons. You are putting Hussein up on a pedestal here, do you think he is a good guy or something. What about the genocide on those Kurds. What about the Terrorists he was hardboring. What about the invasion of Kuat... no we made the right moves.

-Kevin

Welcome to P&N? I haven't seen you really, but your information is off in so many ways.

Why would the U.S hold information back? That makes no sense. They already said what the reasons were and we didn't find any of those reasons.

Iraq harbored no terrorist at all.

Also those bombings of the kurds were believed to have been carried out by the Iranians from their Shab1-2 miissiles. Saddam killed kurds, but evidence suggest that it might have been Iran who sent those chemical weapons into Iraq to stop the kurds.

Saddam is no saint, but his neighbors do more harm than he has ever done.

Why do you bring Kuwait into this? The only reason we went after Saddam when he invaded Kuwait is because the Arab nations were crying and Israel didn't like what was going on. Yet we helped him when he invaded a non-Arab nation when no Arabs were crying then. We , the U.S gave him chemical weapons to use when they were at war. What makes the gasing of the Kurds > gasing of Iranians? Becasue we didn't approve it?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: dgevert
"Don't forget 9/11" he says.

WTF does 9/11 have to do with the war in Iraq? NOTHING! Iraq had NOTHING to do with it. Hussein had NOTHING to do with it.

I'm sick of hearing this claim.

And we are sick of listening to crap like that.

Obviously Saddam did have a part in there. Have you ever wondered why the White House does not release every single bit of intelligence out to the American People. We had our reasons. You are putting Hussein up on a pedestal here, do you think he is a good guy or something. What about the genocide on those Kurds. What about the Terrorists he was hardboring. What about the invasion of Kuat... no we made the right moves.

-Kevin
"Hardboring"? Sounds very painful. I don't think terrorists would like to be hardbored.

Anyway, I recommend you read the 9/11 Commission Report which shows that there was no collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. I also recommend you search the various threads up here where this topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and no matter how many times you may say, it doesn't make it true.

Oh, btw, the invasion of Kuwait? Do some research into the satellite photos the US used to justify going to war. The photos were faked.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: dgevert
"Don't forget 9/11" he says.

WTF does 9/11 have to do with the war in Iraq? NOTHING! Iraq had NOTHING to do with it. Hussein had NOTHING to do with it.

I'm sick of hearing this claim.

And we are sick of listening to crap like that.

Obviously Saddam did have a part in there. Have you ever wondered why the White House does not release every single bit of intelligence out to the American People. We had our reasons. You are putting Hussein up on a pedestal here, do you think he is a good guy or something. What about the genocide on those Kurds. What about the Terrorists he was hardboring. What about the invasion of Kuat... no we made the right moves.

-Kevin
"Hardboring"? Sounds very painful. I don't think terrorists would like to be hardbored.

Anyway, I recommend you read the 9/11 Commission Report which shows that there was no collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. I also recommend you search the various threads up here where this topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and no matter how many times you may say, it doesn't make it true.

Oh, btw, the invasion of Kuwait? Do some research into the satellite photos the US used to justify going to war. The photos were faked.

actually it has been confirmed there was al qaeda in Iraq before the war by USA. zarqawi has been there for a long time.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: dgevert
"Don't forget 9/11" he says.

WTF does 9/11 have to do with the war in Iraq? NOTHING! Iraq had NOTHING to do with it. Hussein had NOTHING to do with it.

I'm sick of hearing this claim.
And we are sick of listening to crap like that.

Obviously Saddam did have a part in there. Have you ever wondered why the White House does not release every single bit of intelligence out to the American People. We had our reasons. You are putting Hussein up on a pedestal here, do you think he is a good guy or something. What about the genocide on those Kurds. What about the Terrorists he was hardboring. What about the invasion of Kuat... no we made the right moves.

-Kevin
"Hardboring"? Sounds very painful. I don't think terrorists would like to be hardbored.

Anyway, I recommend you read the 9/11 Commission Report which shows that there was no collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. I also recommend you search the various threads up here where this topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and no matter how many times you may say, it doesn't make it true.

Oh, btw, the invasion of Kuwait? Do some research into the satellite photos the US used to justify going to war. The photos were faked.
actually it has been confirmed there was al qaeda in Iraq before the war by USA. zarqawi has been there for a long time.
You don't read the truth much, do you?

Zarqawi was in a camp in northern Iraq, in Kurdish-controlled terrority, protected by the U.S. No-Fly Zone. Hmmm...

BTW, did you know Bush had three opportunities to get Zarqawi and passed them all up? Hmm...wonder why? You don't think he wanted to invade Iraq no matter what, do you? Naaaah...