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dank69

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His story was already considered by Senate Democrats, no one corroborates it, and the alleged victim has no memory of it.

Sounds like a rock-solid starting point for another progressive inquisition.
Because the original 7 day investigation was acceptable to you, amirite? I mean, also from your link:

Ms. Ramirez’s legal team gave the F.B.I. a list of at least 25 individuals who may have had corroborating evidence. But the bureau — in its supplemental background investigation — interviewed none of them, though we learned many of these potential witnesses tried in vain to reach the F.B.I. on their own.

Two F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Ramirez, telling her that they found her “credible.” But the Republican-controlled Senate had imposed strict limits on the investigation. “‘We have to wait to get authorization to do anything else,’” Bill Pittard, one of Ms. Ramirez’s lawyers, recalled the agents saying. “It was almost a little apologetic.”
So they give the FBI 7 days to investigate. FBI can't follow up with interviews with alibis without authorization, which they did not receive before the 7 days passed. FBI agents essentially apologizing for not being able to investigate properly. But seems legit to Atreus, a godly man interested in the truth, haha.
 

dank69

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That's jumping to conclusions bullshit. She declined to speak about it & "friends" say she has no memory of it. It's right there in your own link.

If she actually said she had no memory of it, on the record, I'd tend to believe her. Don't pretend that she has.
When we are talking about testimony that tells him what he wants to hear, there is no such thing as dots that don't connect, no matter how hard you have to spin the facts.

When we are talking about testimony that tells him something he does not want to hear, any uncrossed t is enough to disprove an entire case.
 
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Jaskalas

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Shall next month's Kavanaugh story be how he got drunk and exposed himself at college parties?

I mean, if we're watering down the juicy details with previously established stories, we might as well keep it going. Like one of those sentences you repeat until the chosen words are all that remain. Only this time we'll make each line a news article with its own topic. But we already know Kavanaugh was a drunken frat bro. It is him lying about it that disqualifies him, and that Republicans ignored.
 

Starbuck1975

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What do you mean "seems"? Judgeships are an explicit (and arguably chief) part of the GOP electoral sales pitch. It's not even remotely subtle since they're spelling it out directly all the time.

SCOTUS is faced with the very real potential that there will be a number of broadly unpopular 5-4 decisions coming down this term before the election. Given that the conservative majority on the court was secured through cheating and lies via a president that didn't win the popular vote and a senate that represents a minority of the country the legitimacy of the court is likely about to be tested in ways not conceived of in generations. The real question is how far does Roberts want to go in pursuit of conservative ideology versus protecting the integrity of his institution and place in history. This, in large part, remains to be seen.
The Republican Party politicized the SCOTUS. They destroy everything they touch. They will kick and scream like spoiled children as the Democrats repair the damage. The price will be extinction. Like every other disease that spreads like wildfire, the patient either dies or mounts an immune response. Puss screams to be lanced.
The solution seems to lie in removing politics from SCOTUS nominations, the easiest solution being eliminating life time appointments. I can’t say that the GOP exclusively politicized SCOTUS. Democrats seem to prefer stacking the courts over reforming them.

The appointments of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch maintained the status quo, with Roberts instead of Kennedy now acting as the unpredictable swing vote.

This is hitting a fever pitch because Trump could get a third appointment, especially if he wins a second term.
 

K1052

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The solution seems to lie in removing politics from SCOTUS nominations, the easiest solution being eliminating life time appointments. I can’t say that the GOP exclusively politicized SCOTUS. Democrats seem to prefer stacking the courts over reforming them.

The appointments of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch maintained the status quo, with Roberts instead of Kennedy now acting as the unpredictable swing vote.

This is hitting a fever pitch because Trump could get a third appointment, especially if he wins a second term.

They only way to get rid of lifetime appointments to SCOTUS is to threaten court packing. The GOP has no reason to negotiate unless their goals are under threat.

Roberts as the swing vote presents a more conservative court than when it was Kennedy, not status quo.
 
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Just came across my news feed

I would like to see anyone defend the Senate's choice to limit the FBI's capacity to conduct the investigation as they saw fit, specifically limiting the potential interviewees to 10 when they were provided with a list of over 50 and had individuals contacting them spontaneously with relevant information.
 
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UNCjigga

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I would like to see anyone defend the Senate's choice to limit the FBI's capacity to conduct the investigation as they saw fit, specifically limiting the potential interviewees to 10 when they were provided with a list of over 50 and had individuals contacting them spontaneously with relevant information.
Yeah, this is what House Democrats and frankly the Press should be focusing on, not trying another round of "Kavanaugh = BAD!" stories to help rally conservatives. By all means go after Grassley, go after Chris Wray and FBI agents in charge of the investigation, and expose the lie that "a full and thorough FBI investigation cleared Kavanaugh of any sexual improprieties or wrongdoing in his youth."
 
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Muse

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At least he's not accused of murder. If he were, could they unseat him?
 

Jhhnn

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The solution seems to lie in removing politics from SCOTUS nominations, the easiest solution being eliminating life time appointments. I can’t say that the GOP exclusively politicized SCOTUS. Democrats seem to prefer stacking the courts over reforming them.

The appointments of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch maintained the status quo, with Roberts instead of Kennedy now acting as the unpredictable swing vote.

This is hitting a fever pitch because Trump could get a third appointment, especially if he wins a second term.

That's dishonest. The historical solution was to require 60 votes in the Senate to confirm a SCOTUS nominee. The minority had to buy in, making for more centrist opinions on the court.

The truth is that GOP presidents have nominated 10 of the last 14 justices. Jimmy Carter didn't have any-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

Prior to McConnell snubbing Garland, changing the rules & voting in ideologues it was just the luck of the draw tempered by the 60 vote rule. We've had a Court a lot more conservative than the electorate for a very long while & Mitch aims to see that we'll never get it out of our ass. Fuck You, Libtards!
 

fskimospy

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So hard to cite a claim?

It's literally in the article that you already linked to.

At least seven people, including Ms. Ramirez’s mother, heard about the Yale incident long before Mr. Kavanaugh was a federal judge. Two of those people were classmates who learned of it just days after the party occurred, suggesting that it was discussed among students at the time.

Can you acknowledge your previous claim about it not being corroborated is false and if so, would you then want to revise your position? (let me guess, no)
 

Atreus21

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Because the original 7 day investigation was acceptable to you, amirite? I mean, also from your link:


So they give the FBI 7 days to investigate. FBI can't follow up with interviews with alibis without authorization, which they did not receive before the 7 days passed. FBI agents essentially apologizing for not being able to investigate properly. But seems legit to Atreus, a godly man interested in the truth, haha.

Wait a second. You're talking about Deborah Ramirez? The lady who herself said she wasn't certain Kavanaugh even exposed himself?
 

Jhhnn

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None of it mattered to McConnell. Kavanaugh was their guy, Trump's pick. He plays ball the way the GOP likes it. It was a straight up power play with a large amount of dishonesty & a fair amount of white wash but the outcome never really was in doubt.
 

dank69

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Wait a second. You're talking about Deborah Ramirez? The lady who herself said she wasn't certain Kavanaugh even exposed himself?
I'm going to guess you Googled frantically to find any excuse to not admit your error and this is the best you could come up with. Trump is the only one who claimed she said that. Oh, and lol again.
 

UNCjigga

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None of it mattered to McConnell. Kavanaugh was their guy, Trump's pick. He plays ball the way the GOP likes it. It was a straight up power play with a large amount of dishonesty & a fair amount of white wash but the outcome never really was in doubt.

From what I remember of reporting at that time, McConnell was recommending that Trump find a new, less polarizing pick--even before the Christine Blasey Ford allegation became public. But ultimately, he was going to hold a hearing regardless of whom the nominee was.
 

kage69

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Just another court defiled by the turtle and republicans, the middle finger to American women being garnish in their eyes. You know they don't like being interrupted by women, especially the ones that persist.

I think it's great Boof Kavanaugh apparently matured after his dumb jock days. Confirmation hearing aside, he doesn't appear to be the hot head aggressor he was back in the day. Problem is, that doesn't excuse his confirmation perjury or the Fox Noise membership. Either of those alone count him unfit for that office. That hearing was a joke. He absolutely should be impeached and removed from the bench, but then that will be hard seeing as pretty much every Senate republican has proven themselves unfit for office at this point. May 2020 change that math. Ramen.
 
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zinfamous

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I'll be voting for John Bel Edwards next go-round. He had the balls to put his money where his mouth was regarding abortion.

EDIT: Wait, crap, I can't, because I'm moving out of Louisiana before the election. Well, I would've.

ah good. one of the many single issues that doesn't matter a tit, will almost certainly never change, but you think it's so important that the rest of the country should be held in thrall by the worst of the worst that humanity has to offer, simply because you can't get over your one nonsense issue. damned everything else these people stand for!
 
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Just another court defiled by the turtle and republicans, the middle finger to American women was just garnish in their eyes. You know they don't like being interrupted by women.

I think it's great Boof Kavanaugh apparently matured after his dumb jock days. Confirmation hearing aside, he doesn't appear to be the hot head aggressor he was back in the day. Problem is, that doesn't excuse his confirmation perjury or the Fox Noise membership. Either of those alone count him unfit for that office. That hearing was a joke. He absolutely should be impeached and removed from the bench, but then that will be hard seeing as pretty much every Senate republican has proven themselves unfit for office at this point. May 2020 change that math. Ramen.

He doesn't? Is that why he was red-faced spouting conspiracy theories between bawling his eyes out in front of Congress?

Yeah, this is what House Democrats and frankly the Press should be focusing on, not trying another round of "Kavanaugh = BAD!" stories to help rally conservatives. By all means go after Grassley, go after Chris Wray and FBI agents in charge of the investigation, and expose the lie that "a full and thorough FBI investigation cleared Kavanaugh of any sexual improprieties or wrongdoing in his youth."

Sorry but I fucking hate this type of reasoning. They're reporting on information that came out. You're essentially calling for the type of concerted government and media shit that Fox and the Republicans pull.
 

Moonbeam

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Just another court defiled by the turtle and republicans, the middle finger to American women being garnish in their eyes. You know they don't like being interrupted by women, especially the ones that persist.

I think it's great Boof Kavanaugh apparently matured after his dumb jock days. Confirmation hearing aside, he doesn't appear to be the hot head aggressor he was back in the day. Problem is, that doesn't excuse his confirmation perjury or the Fox Noise membership. Either of those alone count him unfit for that office. That hearing was a joke. He absolutely should be impeached and removed from the bench, but then that will be hard seeing as pretty much every Senate republican has proven themselves unfit for office at this point. May 2020 change that math. Ramen.
I suppose if everybody who deserved to be impeached were to be impeached there wouldn't be anybody to do the impeaching.
 
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Because the original 7 day investigation was acceptable to you, amirite? I mean, also from your link:


So they give the FBI 7 days to investigate. FBI can't follow up with interviews with alibis without authorization, which they did not receive before the 7 days passed. FBI agents essentially apologizing for not being able to investigate properly. But seems legit to Atreus, a godly man interested in the truth, haha.
Hey Dumas, all they had was 2 unnamed sources. The guy that made the accusation refused to be questioned by the FBI and the Senate (penalties for perjury you know) and the alleged victim has no memory of the alleged incident.