"NO INTERNET FOR YOU! COME BACK 2 WEEKS!"
Jesus man, you have some serious issues.
Zeig heil mein Führer!
Jesus man, you have some serious issues.
Zeig heil mein Führer!
I think you are a bit too over cautious with this security thing. But anyway, I think you're a bit too harsh. Talk to her and see why she did that. You even give her an e-mail and stuff. My bro is only allowed to go on the net to look at stuff an nothing else.
Hey Sally, this is Mary Beth, we met in the "How much I hate my family" chatroom remember? I'm in 6th grade at Dave Thomas Middle School, where do you go to school? I'm so glad to finaly find somebody who has as messed up a family as me, although I think yours beats mine. I enclosed a picture of myself and a magnet to hang it on your fridge, I really hope your uncle doesn't chop off your fingers for cluttering up the kitchen.
Yes, this is exactly what it said, because of his niece's lack of security awareness I was able to hack into the network and 0wn the all-mighty administrator. I knew the exact wording because the administrator took a picture of the letter, picture and magnets and it was filed under the folder "EyeMWings HELLACIOUSLY SECRET STUFF"
Um, if you kick her out where is she going to live?
Though she did break rules that were set so punishment *is* in order, but rgwalt had good advice.
Though she did break rules that were set so punishment *is* in order, but rgwalt had good advice.
I personal think that maybe you like authority to much. I assume that you are somewhere between 13-17 years old and know a little about computers, but why do you talk like your home's network has 5000 end-terminals? And why do you have so much bottled up anger? Maybe you need to talk to someone about this.
Wow. After reading this thread, I'm amazed by you; it's like you run the computer nazi camp over there. Give the girl a break. I know this is the ONLY power you have so you've waiting so long to use it, but you need to chill the fvck out and let her do what she wants to.
I agree with that, but kids need to learn from their mistakes. Not ban them for life off their computers, they are just gonna hate you and get around and use the computer another way.
Mean MrMustard
Diamond Member
- Jan 5, 2001
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EyeMWing, how old are you?
Damn, just take away the internet. She should still be able to type papers and such. I don't know about you or anyone else, but I wouldn't have gotten through school without a computer.
Damn, just take away the internet. She should still be able to type papers and such. I don't know about you or anyone else, but I wouldn't have gotten through school without a computer.
arcenite
Lifer
- Dec 9, 2001
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damn, you are an asshole (OP) lighten up... Yeah, she's in fifth grade, but at that age, she wants to write to people. You're acting like it's your house, though by the sound of it you live with your parents?
I had overheard her asking my parents our address, phone number and such.
This is where I get confused, do you live with your parents? If you do, how old are you? If it's their house, i'd say it's their responsibility to give a f!ck about what your niece does on the internet in their house, and not yours.
I think you're just jealous that she already has more friends than you do.
Bill
AreaCode707
Lifer
- Sep 21, 2001
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As much as I agree with everyone else that you're on a power trip, I have one exception to make.
She gave out her address.
No, let me repeat. SHE GAVE OUT HER ADDRESS.
As somebody who recently dealt with the fear that somebody from the internet had somehow got a hold of my address (and showed up at my then-residence stoned, looking for me), I want to point out that that is a BIG deal when you are vulnerable, like a child is.
Yes, not all people on the internet are creeps and pervs. I've given out my address before to people on AT that I have good reason to trust. However, I would never rely on a 5th grader to make that judgment call. No matter what else she did, she knew that giving out her address on the internet was wrong. She put herself in danger. She deserved discipline for that.
Did she deserve the discipline she got? Not really - restriction from the internet would have been sufficient, plus some other less related penalty probably. And she definitely doesn't deserve the attitude she's getting from her uncle. But HECK YEAH she deserved some sort of punishment for giving out her address without parental consent.
She gave out her address.
No, let me repeat. SHE GAVE OUT HER ADDRESS.
As somebody who recently dealt with the fear that somebody from the internet had somehow got a hold of my address (and showed up at my then-residence stoned, looking for me), I want to point out that that is a BIG deal when you are vulnerable, like a child is.
Yes, not all people on the internet are creeps and pervs. I've given out my address before to people on AT that I have good reason to trust. However, I would never rely on a 5th grader to make that judgment call. No matter what else she did, she knew that giving out her address on the internet was wrong. She put herself in danger. She deserved discipline for that.
Did she deserve the discipline she got? Not really - restriction from the internet would have been sufficient, plus some other less related penalty probably. And she definitely doesn't deserve the attitude she's getting from her uncle. But HECK YEAH she deserved some sort of punishment for giving out her address without parental consent.
This was an actual thread, about his ex? Must have gotten deleted before I saw it.
The address thing, I agree that little kids should not be giving out addresses, online or anywhere else. Did you discuss this with her? It probably seems to her that you are just freaking out because she got a letter and not because she gave out her address.
It's kind of funny when nobody tells her to never give out an address to anyone, but there are all these ridiculous repercussions for "misusing a computer." The OP really needs to understand that life isn't all about computers. He values his stupid computer more than people. Who cares if she puts stuff on the desktop or listens to whatever on his stupid $2 computer speakers.
To the OP: Since you asked - no you did the right thing in bringing up suspicion about her activities, however you went way too far with your actions. You don't need to insult her and her teachers. She needs a computer to do her work and took it away. Certainly you know how to disable a modem or remove it from the machine, yet you persist on taking the machine away and insulting her teachers who say that she needs it to type her homework. This a prime example and throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Siddhartha
Lifer
- Oct 17, 1999
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Wow, I am glad I did not grow up in your house hold. Man, sounds like prison rules after a riot.
How long does that little girl have to live in Stalag 17?
You sir are a control freak. Good lord in the morning you must really hate this kid. I really and truly do mean that too sir. Somebody that was a parent or was serving in some parental capacity would sit down with the child, find out why she did what she did and then explain why they thought it was wrong. Grounding the kid and taking away internet access for a while is fine, but PERMANENTLY??? Seriously, when I was a kid (26 now) I had to do a fair number of reports in high school that REQUIRED access to the internet and it was a serious issue getting enough time at school to do the research. I was pretty darn happy when I finally did get internet access at home.
You seem to have this concept that since you're the domain administrator that you're some kind of god or something. Continuing down this path will do nothing more than have this child hate you more than she does now. Sure her mother wasn't a great role model but you being a total hard ass isn't much better. Somehow I get the feeling that since the day she came into your household it has been nothing short of a living hell. The rules that you set down for computer usage are a definite sign of that. Have you considered TALKING to this child, seeing what she's interested in and try to give her some attention? To me it seems that she's using the internet to find somebody that she can relate to because she isn't finding anybody at home.
I run the network in my household (2 wireless clients and the rest wired, various boxes running from Pentium 4s to Sun Microsystem SPARCServer 1000Es) and I don't have nearly the stranglehold that you do and really it is NOT NECESSARY for a home network. I simply install firewall software on all of the PCs (also have one gateway running shorewall) and install anti virus software as well. The ONLY program restriction I have placed on the network is no P2P programs are allowed, too much bandwidth usage and too easy to get into trouble with them. If you're so worried about her saving passwords to text files why don't you get a password manager utility to use? There are many of them out there that will use one master password to open the password database which can be heavily encrypted for hardasses like you.
To end this rather lengthy post, seriously look at what she's done relative to the punishment you've given her. She has made a mistake, she's screwed up. KIDS SCREW UP OCCASIONALLY!! It's a part of growing up, and I'm sure you've screwed up once or twice. Matter of fact I believe you've screwed up on the punishment for what she has done. I sure hope you can get this all figured out before the whole family has to go in for group therapy.
You seem to have this concept that since you're the domain administrator that you're some kind of god or something. Continuing down this path will do nothing more than have this child hate you more than she does now. Sure her mother wasn't a great role model but you being a total hard ass isn't much better. Somehow I get the feeling that since the day she came into your household it has been nothing short of a living hell. The rules that you set down for computer usage are a definite sign of that. Have you considered TALKING to this child, seeing what she's interested in and try to give her some attention? To me it seems that she's using the internet to find somebody that she can relate to because she isn't finding anybody at home.
I run the network in my household (2 wireless clients and the rest wired, various boxes running from Pentium 4s to Sun Microsystem SPARCServer 1000Es) and I don't have nearly the stranglehold that you do and really it is NOT NECESSARY for a home network. I simply install firewall software on all of the PCs (also have one gateway running shorewall) and install anti virus software as well. The ONLY program restriction I have placed on the network is no P2P programs are allowed, too much bandwidth usage and too easy to get into trouble with them. If you're so worried about her saving passwords to text files why don't you get a password manager utility to use? There are many of them out there that will use one master password to open the password database which can be heavily encrypted for hardasses like you.
To end this rather lengthy post, seriously look at what she's done relative to the punishment you've given her. She has made a mistake, she's screwed up. KIDS SCREW UP OCCASIONALLY!! It's a part of growing up, and I'm sure you've screwed up once or twice. Matter of fact I believe you've screwed up on the punishment for what she has done. I sure hope you can get this all figured out before the whole family has to go in for group therapy.
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