Did fallout 1 and 2 fans like fallout 3?

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Born2bwire

Diamond Member
Oct 28, 2005
9,840
6
71
Originally posted by: smackababy
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: smackababy
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: smackababy
Fallout 3 lost the dark, twisted, really do anything you want RPG feeling that Fallout 2 had. I mean, I had to install a mod just to kill children. Wtf is up with that? I enjoyed the VATS system somewhat, it was a little too non-turnbased for me eventually. Fallout 2, to me, is the one of the holy grail of RPGs falling just behind of KOTOR, but I am HUGE Star Wars nerd. As just a generic, post-apocolyptical RPG, it was a great game. As a follow up in the Fallout series, it was mediocre at best.

That plus your username means you're too fucked up for AT. Off to 4chan with ya

1.) My username is from an mc chris song, nothing to do with 4chan.
2.) It was an extreme example of the COMPLETE freedom offered in Fallout 2.*

*Not valid outside the US.

Only the US versions allowed you to kill the kids. They got really lazy with the UK version, they just deleted the kids' sprites altogether but this caused some problems because they didn't correct all the scripts to note the fact that you couldn't interact with the children anymore. I think this caused problems because there is one quest where you rescue a child, but is now non-existent. Fallout 2 is still pretty buggy.
I did not know that about the UK version. Only played the American. And I never said Fallout 2 wasn't buggy. I tend to easily overlook bugs for the most part. Story is what holds me the most, I can forgive most everything else.

I only pointed it out because I thought it was are really weird bug to miss and just a really lazy solution to the child killing thing. I remember one guy on Slashdot saying that he would walk around the town where the children would pickpocket you carrying armed timed explosives. Apparently if a child stole the TNT off of you and subsequently blew himself up it didn't count against your karma.
 

Jumpem

Lifer
Sep 21, 2000
10,757
3
81
It was ok. The first person view really killed it for me though. Unlike the reviewers, I find first person views much less immersive.
 

Rassilon

Member
Sep 4, 2006
43
0
0
No. fallout 3 sucked. its nothing more than oblivion with guns, and oblivion was tedious, repetitive, boring crap.

It was a sad, dark day when bethesda got ahold of the fallout license.
 

WraithETC

Golden Member
May 15, 2005
1,464
1
81
I really can't stand turn based crap. In my opinion Bethesda should have just changed it all together and left no thought to the original fans.

Who needs them anyways the company who catered to them went out of business along with companies who made other similar games.

Fallout 3 was an ugly wasteland Oblivion without everything that made Oblivion good.

No matter what Fallout 3 could have been it would have never lived up to the geeky basement nerd nostalgic expectations for it. I could take a Fallout 2 package erase the 2 and write a 3 with a sharpie and sell it to those people for $60 new and they could be happy.

Pointless effort.

Game companies have figured it out; why cater to a bunch of whiny nerds who will probably steal your game anyways when you can make something else that will sell f-tons better. Source "Nintendo," "Lack of decent PC only games," "Draconian DRM."

I think the PC game spaced is reserved for those "holy," neigh untouchable game companies whose realm of game making is another world all together. That or a place to sell day old console games before making something fresh.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
15,628
5
81
Originally posted by: Dumac
Fallout 3 was simply mediocre.

Not bad, but not exceptional.

This.

It was fun for a little bit but I don't see myself coming back to replay it like I did with FO2.

EDIT:

Originally posted by: VashHT
I couldn't stand the combat system in FO3. I loved the turn based fighting from the first 2 games, if they would've just added the option to make it full turn based (not the half assed attempt that VATS is) then it would've been a lot better imo. Overall I'd give the game a 7.5 or so, it didn't live up to the old games for me at all.

Also this.
 

Scouzer

Lifer
Jun 3, 2001
10,358
5
0
Originally posted by: Shadowknight
Originally posted by: TidusZ
Originally posted by: Shadowknight
Also, while I enjoyed the first five minutes after getting out of the Vault, having to walk everywhere got old REAL fast. It would have been nice to have fast-travel enabled for everywhere (like in Fallout 1 and 2) but to run into "special" encounters like the crashed spaceship, you had to search the wasteland manually (or reimplement the luck and wasteland survival skills so you can automatically stop fast-traveling when you get near a special encounter).

I agree with most of your other comments, but you do realize the game did have quick travel? You could click on the map and go someplace instantly. Please tell me you didn't really run everywhere you had to go.

I referencecd quick-travel in my post. The problem is, if you ran into someone in the waste in a random encounter and they put locations on your map, you still had to physically walk there the first time. Yes, you could use existing locations as "way-points" but even locations relatively near to each other took at least a couple of minutes of walking to travel between. If somone gave me a location, I'd rather have the option of just going straight there instead of walking there even once to "officially" discover it.

I agree with this entirely. The travel made me put down the game for 2-3 weeks, then I realized there's a cheat to enable all fast travel points. That made the game fun again, and I finished it shortly thereafter.

Overall, I enjoyed the game thoroughly, as I did Oblivion.
 

JoshGuru7

Golden Member
Aug 18, 2001
1,020
1
0
I actually thought the travel/fast travel was just about right from an exploration/integrated FPS point of view. Too much fast travel makes the game dramatically shorter (the main arc was already super short) and the open field combat was pretty good if you don't mind shooters.

My main complaint was the ending, combined a few of the other commonly stated complaints (less humor, very shallow dialogue, small game world). I liked the core mechanics, and with enough expansions and user created content there's a good chance that I would rate the game an 8 or a 9 instead of a 7.

Edit: I should add that I played it for the PS3 and didn't really encounter any of the bugs or crashes that people keep complaining about on these boards.
 

AVP

Senior member
Jan 19, 2005
885
0
76
Completely independent of the originals - fallout 3 just wasn't fun.
 

Jabbernyx

Senior member
Feb 2, 2009
350
0
0
Originally posted by: smackababy
I did not know that about the UK version. Only played the American. And I never said Fallout 2 wasn't buggy. I tend to easily overlook bugs for the most part. Story is what holds me the most, I can forgive most everything else.
Same attitude I had towards Troika's Vampire : The Masquerade.
 

AndroidVageta

Banned
Mar 22, 2008
2,421
0
0
Fallout 1 and 2 were good for their time and still are. Would be nice to see them remade using the newer Fallout 3 engine...those would be games for the history books. As far as Fallout 3 is concerned, I can honestly say that the main story like is short as hell and kinda made the game loose my respect. Granted there are side missions and alot of them but they are nothing fancy or exciting or even new compared to what the storyline has you do...so it just kinda looses points fast.

Graphics and atmosphere however were PERFECT. All the NPC seemed to have something different to say and the world is quite detailed and very fun to explore with alot of things to discover!
 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
14,488
7
81
Fallout 3 had a shit ton of faults in my mind. 90% of them were Bethesda's age old trappings that they cannot seem to dig their way out of. I'll take the original 2 any day of the week. However, I am watching the F3 modding scene, I'd love to see some amazing mods turn the game around.
 

Liet

Golden Member
Jun 9, 2001
1,529
0
0
I'd think the game was halfway decent if only they didn't call it Fallout, and then change everything that made the original Fallouts so damned incredible.

I was actually angry about while it was still in development... every dev update annoyed me more than the last. "Hey dudes, we're getting rid of ability to do almost anything, good or bad, and actually having to live with the consequences. Instead, you can go anywhere in the world, but can only do the 3 same things in each place. We're doing this because we LOVE Fallout and respect it just as much as you do! Enjoy!"

Bastards.
 

DefDC

Golden Member
Aug 28, 2003
1,858
1
81
I enjoyed it, but not as much as 1&2. It needs more content and some patches. Once it's "finished" I think it could be amazing!
 

zerogear

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2000
5,611
9
81
Screw fast travel, they should've given us an atomic car! Where is my atomic car?