BrokenVisage
Lifer
- Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: stan394
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Dear heavens, reality will fall quite heavily on you... _Never_ marry someone eith whom you haven't had a knock-down, drag-out fight. It _will_ happen eventually. If you've been fake enough to avoid it so far, then there are things you are not dealing with.Originally posted by: Duddy
And we never had ANY arguments the ENTIRE TIME.
ZV
I don't know that I agree with that. My bf and I are both pretty mellow and we have disagreements and sometimes argue, but we've never had an all out fight, and I can't see it happening. We're too good at being grown up and talking about our problems, I guess.
I had been with my GF for over 3 years before we got an apt off campus, and we never had any type of serious arguments. I thought we never could, we were both very good at communicating, and listening to the others complaints, and finding ways to correct the problems. But eventually we did have a real knock-down drag out fight, and it completely broke our relationship.
You see, our relationship had no way to overcome a problem we could not discuss rationally. We both we had learned to compromise but never to truly forgive. When we found a problem that there could be no compromise on, we had no way to resolve the issue, so we just pushed it aside and tried to avoid the topic as often as possible. But these issues never went away they just festered between us, driving us apart slowly. When that final argument came about, they all got dragged out and the accusations flew and feelings were hurt, and it couldn?t be swept under the rug this time. There had to be resolution, but all these things taken together were too much for either of us to forgive all at once. We both ended up loathing the one person that we had ever truly loved and never wanted to hurt, each other.
That was more then two years ago, and I still miss her every day.
I?m not sure what ya?ll can take from this. I have always felt that we can learn from the mistakes of others, and use those lessons to improve our lives. So I give to all of you this lesson: learn to forgive, and use it freely.
would you mind sharing what kind of issue it is? money? religion? family?
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I give you 2 months of living with her before one of you dumps the other one.
ZV
Originally posted by: Duddy
My dad says he has never heard of it. Help me prove him wrong.
Also, if you did, how did it go?
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I give you 2 months of living with her before one of you dumps the other one.
ZV
Actually, we plan on marrying and have been together for over a year now. She is going to be a doctor and I'm going to be an IT.
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
what everyone here is saying....what if you guys break up....then you have to be a L-L-L-L-L-L-LEASE BREAKER....breaker.....breaker.....breaker.....
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: stan394
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Dear heavens, reality will fall quite heavily on you... _Never_ marry someone eith whom you haven't had a knock-down, drag-out fight. It _will_ happen eventually. If you've been fake enough to avoid it so far, then there are things you are not dealing with.Originally posted by: Duddy
And we never had ANY arguments the ENTIRE TIME.
ZV
I don't know that I agree with that. My bf and I are both pretty mellow and we have disagreements and sometimes argue, but we've never had an all out fight, and I can't see it happening. We're too good at being grown up and talking about our problems, I guess.
I had been with my GF for over 3 years before we got an apt off campus, and we never had any type of serious arguments. I thought we never could, we were both very good at communicating, and listening to the others complaints, and finding ways to correct the problems. But eventually we did have a real knock-down drag out fight, and it completely broke our relationship.
You see, our relationship had no way to overcome a problem we could not discuss rationally. We both we had learned to compromise but never to truly forgive. When we found a problem that there could be no compromise on, we had no way to resolve the issue, so we just pushed it aside and tried to avoid the topic as often as possible. But these issues never went away they just festered between us, driving us apart slowly. When that final argument came about, they all got dragged out and the accusations flew and feelings were hurt, and it couldn?t be swept under the rug this time. There had to be resolution, but all these things taken together were too much for either of us to forgive all at once. We both ended up loathing the one person that we had ever truly loved and never wanted to hurt, each other.
That was more then two years ago, and I still miss her every day.
I?m not sure what ya?ll can take from this. I have always felt that we can learn from the mistakes of others, and use those lessons to improve our lives. So I give to all of you this lesson: learn to forgive, and use it freely.
would you mind sharing what kind of issue it is? money? religion? family?
It was a bunch of things. Things I had done, things she had done, all of them we had pushed under the rug, but had never really forgiven each other. The final argument was a mix of money and religion. I had lost my 100k+ a year job when Enron fell, and took a job at 20k a year (just to pay bills,) She was not happy with our lifestyle having to take a drastic turn downward, from there the argument proceeded to her telling me that bad things happened to me because I was not Catholic. I never knew she felt that way, and I told her so, and the argument escalated from there. By the end we had each poked at old wounds we had both harbored for years. This fight actually lasted for over a week, each of us starting back at the other as soon as we saw each other. Finally I decided that we just needed some time apart to cool down, and decided to go stay with my folks for a few days. When I came back she had moved into the spare bedroom and would not even talk to me. I tried several times to make up with her, and we had one more good night together, after that she told me that although she still loved me, we could never again be what we were. From that day on, every time we spoke we ended up with angry words.
It took me some time to realize that what she meant was that she could not forgive me and I could not forgive her for things that we had both done in the past and not worked out at that time.
When we fell in love we were too young. We didn?t know how to fix things when they went wrong, so we avoided them. We never learnt the lessons others learn with break-ups and make-ups over the years. How do you forgive someone for something that you have been mad about for 10 years? We had things that we were still angry with each other over from high school. How do you make up for something after all those years? How do you make up for all the mistakes you made while learning to live and love, learning to be independent, and interdependent? How do you make up for all that when they were all done to one person?
Originally posted by: ngvepforever2
do it and you'll be back in two weeks crying and ranting about it.
Regards
ng
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I give you 2 months of living with her before one of you dumps the other one.
ZV
Actually, we plan on marrying and have been together for over a year now. She is going to be a doctor and I'm going to be an IT.
Wow, you've been together a whole year, must be serious :roll:
Dude, a frickin' year, you haven't been to college yet, you're thinking of marriage, you're full of BS, and YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO COLLEGE YET.
Seriously, how much of life do you truely know? IMO it's stupid to move in with her, then break up, find you're both screwed in terms of living arrangements, and then you'll come here and whine your life is over.
It's not gonna be good for you.
It's not gonna be good for her.
It's not gonna be good for your dad (except he gets to say "I told you so")
And last but DEFINATELY not least:
It's not going to be good for US on this board having to listen to your whining when you realise we were right and you're screwed.
I'm already a year into college. And we never had ANY arguments the ENTIRE TIME. And we don't drink or smoke. She also loves to play Halo 2. She also taught ME about the joy of torrents.