Did a Google search on why conservatives have infantile reactions when presented ....

[Jhhnn]

My sarcasm detector fired on your post. Good one.

Funny what people believe.

Moonbeam references work like this-

In reality, we often base our opinions on our beliefs, which can have an uneasy relationship with facts. And rather than facts driving beliefs, our beliefs can dictate the facts we chose to accept. They can cause us to twist facts so they fit better with our preconceived notions. Worst of all, they can lead us to uncritically accept bad information just because it reinforces our beliefs. This reinforcement makes us more confident we’re right, and even less likely to listen to any new information.

The participants who self-identified as conservative believed the misinformation on WMD and taxes even more strongly after being given the correction.

I remember you going on & on in a most amazing fashion about how there really, really were WMD's in Iraq...

In other words, if you feel good about yourself, you’ll listen — and if you feel insecure or threatened, you won’t. This would also explain why demagogues benefit from keeping people agitated. The more threatened people feel, the less likely they are to listen to dissenting opinions, and the more easily controlled they are.

Which pretty much explains conservatives' bunker mentality, strongly promoted by their leadership. Had Oregon Pioneers circled the wagons as often as today's Righties, they'd never have made it out of Illinois.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/

Knowledge is the enemy of Faith, and conservatives have rejected knowledge & new ideas for hundreds if not thousands of years. When framed, the US Constitution was the most radical & shocking govt document ever created, sending conservatives of the day into apoplectic fits. Fast forward 200 years, and conservatives claim they invented it. Go figure.

 

[Genx87]

with true facts about their condition and found this:

"...when it comes to having their thinking challenged; they shut down totally or display varying degrees of infantile responses.

One of these varying degrees of infantile responses is conservatives ability to make up realities, just totally make up shit with the slightest bit of confirming evidence in existence.

A way conservatives shut down is to blame anyone, like Palin did in the movie, blame ANYTHING that makes them face their irrational logic or the fact that they have fucked up realities and people laugh at them.

So this msgboard is actually full of conservatives? Learn something new every day.

 

[Jhhnn]

So this msgboard is actually full of conservatives? Learn something new every day.

I think I just heard "X 8", and the sound of the door slamming shut on another personal bunker o' denial...

 

[cybrsage]

I think I just heard "X 8", and the sound of the door slamming shut on another personal bunker o' denial...

You are giving my sarcasm detector a workout today!

 

[Matt1970]

I see an inane moonbeam rant covered in the splooge of the local lib-trolls. Moving on...

LOL, nice.

 

[diesbudt]

My personal opinion.

If anyone believes for a minute either side is "good" and "for the people" anymore in this age, they should go re-educate themselves and actually dig deep in a lot of the programs the government has passed in last few decades. However, both liberals and conservatives alike will only focus and search for things that show them in the best/positive light or shows the opposition in a negative light.

Truth be told, we need both yet neither. We need a moderate society that is balanced between both liberals and conservatives. Some years depending on international politics and economy a liberal government may be best suited, while on others a conservative government.

The GOP put up a horrible candidate
The democrats are allowing a horrible candidate to re-run for a 2nd term.

We lose either way.

 

[Munky]

That's funny, I could have said the same thing about the lefty loons when presented with a inconvenient fact which bursts their equalist-preaching, kumbaya-singing, self-hating, deviant-pandering Stockholm syndrome delusional bubble.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's funny, I could have said the same thing about the lefty loons when presented with a inconvenient fact which bursts their equalist-preaching, kumbaya-singing, self-hating, deviant-pandering Stockholm syndrome delusional bubble.

The Force is strong in this one- the force of denial.

 

[Atreus21]

True conservatives think with their gut, not their brain.

This is true.

Conservatives sometimes use their gut when they should use their brain.

Liberals sometimes use their brain when they should use their gut.

Wisdom vs. Intelligence. Pick your side.

 

[Moonbeam]

This is true.

Conservatives sometimes use their gut when they should use their brain.

Liberals sometimes use their brain when they should use their gut.

Wisdom vs. Intelligence. Pick your side.

For the love of Christ, stop with the self flattery. There is nothing wise about truthiness that comes from the gut. It is as far as you can get from wisdom. It is a totally emotional feeling of correctness, a bigotry coupled with the arrogant satisfaction of feeling you're right. Wisdom is knowledge about the self, access to what for others lies in the unconscious. It's being in touch with your feelings, not, as conservatives are, driven by fear and in denial.

 

[diesbudt]

For the love of Christ, stop with the self flattery. There is nothing wise about truthiness that comes from the gut. It is as far as you can get from wisdom. It is a totally emotional feeling of correctness, a bigotry coupled with the arrogant satisfaction of feeling you're right. Wisdom is knowledge about the self, access to what for others lies in the unconscious. It's being in touch with your feelings, not, as conservatives are, driven by fear and in denial.

Then how did animals or primitive human being survive before their intelligence grew? Why can people do stuff so successfully on a whim? Not siding with either side of a political debate here, but your response here shows how ignorant you really are.

Because I am certain that gut feelings also known as intuition, is a strong if not a stronger form of intelligence when it comes to making decisions. Many well known scientists started their path of research based on gut feelings and intuitions.

Albert Einstein, was working one day in bank, looked up at the sun and sky outside and viola, his gut/intuition told him that something much more, specific in his intuition, must be behind everything that goes around the universe/outside of earth. This led him to many breakthroughs in the science community, many still standing with some being broken today from other intuitions. (And so on)

Wisdom is not the knowledge of self, but the knowledge of experience. Wisdom is obtained over time from experiencing, either first hand or through a medium, events that adds on to ones knowledge and to be used to recall events. Intelligence is the speed of learning something you have no event experience to back up with it.

 

[Munky]

The Force is strong in this one- the force of denial.

So other than nerdy condescending cliches, you have no logical counter-argument? Or were you talking about yourself?

 

[BoberFett]

So other than nerdy condescending cliches, you have no logical counter-argument? Or were you talking about yourself?

Jhnnhyhnnyhyqweg hasn't had an interesing thought in years. It's nothing but partisan vomit at this point.

 

[SickBeast]

Democrats and Republicans are both conservative parties so the OP is probably talking about himself to a large extent.

 

[Moonbeam]

Then how did animals or primitive human being survive before their intelligence grew? Why can people do stuff so successfully on a whim? Not siding with either side of a political debate here, but your response here shows how ignorant you really are.

Because I am certain that gut feelings also known as intuition, is a strong if not a stronger form of intelligence when it comes to making decisions. Many well known scientists started their path of research based on gut feelings and intuitions.

Albert Einstein, was working one day in bank, looked up at the sun and sky outside and viola, his gut/intuition told him that something much more, specific in his intuition, must be behind everything that goes around the universe/outside of earth. This led him to many breakthroughs in the science community, many still standing with some being broken today from other intuitions. (And so on)

Wisdom is not the knowledge of self, but the knowledge of experience. Wisdom is obtained over time from experiencing, either first hand or through a medium, events that adds on to ones knowledge and to be used to recall events. Intelligence is the speed of learning something you have no event experience to back up with it.

You make some good and bad points here, none of which have anything to do with what I said. Google truthiness and educate yourself on how it differs from intuition, wisdom, intelligence, etc. You are punching from inside a paper bag.

 

[Moonbeam]

Jhnnhyhnnyhyqweg hasn't had an interesing thought in years. It's nothing but partisan vomit at this point.

Why don't you put your little BB gun plinker aside and fucking man up and enter the conversation. Surely you must have something to say. There is little purpose in announcing to the world every five minutes, that you have an asshole.

 

[werepossum]

Interestingly, there are but two steps in the proggie play book.
1. Denounce conservatives as mentally defective.
2. Demand that conservatives support them and subsidize their housing, health care, child care, education, Internet access . . .

You'd expect that such overwhelmingly superior creatures could do SOMETHING for themselves. Anything at all. Even a blind hog finds the occasional acorn. But alas, the lonely bitter proggie is stuck in eternal debt to those whom he despises, unable to lift a hand in his own behalf, condemned to come hat in hand to sponge off of those he considers beneath him in every conceivable way as his sense of entitlement (due to being born in the image of the G-d he rejects as also beneath him) wars with his conflicting feelings of disgust and superiority.

Proggies are the eternal ungrateful children, creatures built of envy and hate, despising themselves to a degree that only by shrilly shrieking accusations at conservatives, their presumptive adults for whom everything is easy, can they get a moment's inner peace. Sad. Sad and amusing.

Proggies do have one thing going for them however. Google. By the miracle of Google, blessed be Its name, proggies can post a piece of utter garbage (hereafter known as typical proggie thinking feeling) knowing that other proggies can point to its putrescence and proclaim its divinity as the Child of Google, sent to save their miserable souls in the magical circle jerk of proggie life. Also it gives them something to do whilst waiting for their checks to arrive.

 

[diesbudt]

You make some good and bad points here, none of which have anything to do with what I said. Google truthiness and educate yourself on how it differs from intuition, wisdom, intelligence, etc. You are punching from inside a paper bag.

Never said truthfullness in my post. Truthfulness is no where involved in either democrats or republicans. Intelligent or wisdom. It is a separate parameter in which people live with.

Republicans can be truthful, but they lie for selfish means.
Democrats can be truthful, but they lie for selfish means.

A wise old man can be truthful or lie to protect or harm another, based on his wisdom.
A Fool of a teenager can be truthful or lie to protect or harm another, based on his wisdom, however less wisdom to pull from means less evidence of the best option to go with.

Just saying, truthfulness comes with higher wisdom and intelligence both, as it is more evidence to pull from to make a decision.


Sidenote---


Again, nothing in politics is truthful, anyone can be a democratic/republican fanboy and keep spewing half truths while ignoring the other half that shows them in a negative light. Especially on the internet forums such as this.

Did you know? 2008 campaign Obama was against homosexual marriages in an interview. 2012 campaign Obama is for homoxesual marriages. Was he lying now or 4 years ago? Or is he still lying, and doesn't care whatever will win over more people? Same with Romney on other issues. (I use obama in this example as it is the most recent revelation of political news I heard and in no ways indicates what I personally believe. I am also NOT following this election as both parties are fielding horrible candidates and I already am decreeing I am using my freedom to choose to not to vote/endorse either one of them)

What needs to be done, is people stop blindly believing their "side" of government is right, when both are wrong, sometimes at different decisions, sometimes at the same decision. For true democracy to exist, they must mesh well together and all become moderates. Each person having their own opinion on each topic. Not all left or right minded as the damn parties require. Both parties just want as much $$$ they can get, via obtaining as many seats in office each 2/4 year term.

 

[werepossum]

Then how did animals or primitive human being survive before their intelligence grew? Why can people do stuff so successfully on a whim? Not siding with either side of a political debate here, but your response here shows how ignorant you really are.

Because I am certain that gut feelings also known as intuition, is a strong if not a stronger form of intelligence when it comes to making decisions. Many well known scientists started their path of research based on gut feelings and intuitions.

Albert Einstein, was working one day in bank, looked up at the sun and sky outside and viola, his gut/intuition told him that something much more, specific in his intuition, must be behind everything that goes around the universe/outside of earth. This led him to many breakthroughs in the science community, many still standing with some being broken today from other intuitions. (And so on)

Wisdom is not the knowledge of self, but the knowledge of experience. Wisdom is obtained over time from experiencing, either first hand or through a medium, events that adds on to ones knowledge and to be used to recall events. Intelligence is the speed of learning something you have no event experience to back up with it.

Well said. However you should give both sides of the story. What about the proggie who also looked up at the sky that very day, then shook his fist at it and screamed "You owe me!"

 

[rudder]

Facts don't change people's opinions unfortunately. In fact, the mental resources and rationalizations used for ego preservation only act to cement those flawed opinions when faced with the facts ---> polarization is always the result of debate. I don't think its unique to conservatives, its just a lot easier to recognize when they do it.

True. I prefer the liberal way. Either ignore the issue completely or post 1500 threads about Romney killing some lady.

 

[BoberFett]

Why don't you put your little BB gun plinker aside and fucking man up and enter the conversation. Surely you must have something to say. There is little purpose in announcing to the world every five minutes, that you have an asshole.

Funny thing about my asshole, it shoots out moonbeams...

 

[Atreus21]

For the love of Christ, stop with the self flattery. There is nothing wise about truthiness that comes from the gut. It is as far as you can get from wisdom. It is a totally emotional feeling of correctness, a bigotry coupled with the arrogant satisfaction of feeling you're right. Wisdom is knowledge about the self, access to what for others lies in the unconscious. It's being in touch with your feelings, not, as conservatives are, driven by fear and in denial.

No self-flattery. Wisdom is acquired through time, experience, and suffering. People who have heard clever arguments for ultimately bad ends don't need to do any rigorous intellectual exercise to know that it's the same turd repackaged. I'd wager that's why Soviet expats tend to lean right.

And it's amusing to see you react this way, considering my source is the same guy who you gleefully quoted as proving that liberals are smarter than conservatives.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...re-more-intelligent-conservatives-why-are-lib

 

[Jhhnn]

That's funny, I could have said the same thing about the lefty loons when presented with a inconvenient fact which bursts their equalist-preaching, kumbaya-singing, self-hating, deviant-pandering Stockholm syndrome delusional bubble.

So other than nerdy condescending cliches, you have no logical counter-argument? Or were you talking about yourself?

Jhnnhyhnnyhyqweg hasn't had an interesing thought in years. It's nothing but partisan vomit at this point.

So Munky's mindless rant against a dishonest strawman is somehow transformed into "an argument"?

What "argument" did he actually make, anyway, against the scientific findings in the link I offered? Did he offer any counter evidence, or just derision?

Have your own contributions been any different, BoberFett?

 

[Matt1970]

n/m

 

[Moonbeam]

Interestingly, there are but two steps in the proggie play book.
1. Denounce conservatives as mentally defective.
2. Demand that conservatives support them and subsidize their housing, health care, child care, education, Internet access . . .

You'd expect that such overwhelmingly superior creatures could do SOMETHING for themselves. Anything at all. Even a blind hog finds the occasional acorn. But alas, the lonely bitter proggie is stuck in eternal debt to those whom he despises, unable to lift a hand in his own behalf, condemned to come hat in hand to sponge off of those he considers beneath him in every conceivable way as his sense of entitlement (due to being born in the image of the G-d he rejects as also beneath him) wars with his conflicting feelings of disgust and superiority.

Proggies are the eternal ungrateful children, creatures built of envy and hate, despising themselves to a degree that only by shrilly shrieking accusations at conservatives, their presumptive adults for whom everything is easy, can they get a moment's inner peace. Sad. Sad and amusing.

Proggies do have one thing going for them however. Google. By the miracle of Google, blessed be Its name, proggies can post a piece of utter garbage (hereafter known as typical proggie thinking feeling) knowing that other proggies can point to its putrescence and proclaim its divinity as the Child of Google, sent to save their miserable souls in the magical circle jerk of proggie life. Also it gives them something to do whilst waiting for their checks to arrive.

Try to remember that it's conservatives who love to denounce people. That is why you fear it and that is why you always feel it's other people's aim.

I love conservatives but I can see their defects and I want to help them by pointing out what they need to see to get better. It's simply childish pride that makes you want to bite the hand that reaches out to help you and I knew long ago that's how I would be treated. In short, I want to help you even if you want to shit on me. Beneath all that shit is a real person who wants to be happy. I have what you are looking for. All you need to do is have the strength to carry it away.