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DominionSeraph

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2. Demand that conservatives support them and subsidize their housing, health care, child care, education, Internet access . . .

Conservatives subsidize what now?

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blankslate

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Lying again.

All the OP as to do is do a case study of this guy.

He seems to be replying to post #126 which provides a chart that makes the assertion that Red States tend to take more money from the Federal Government than they pay in Federal taxes. While the opposite tends to be true of blue stats.

He doesn't quote anyone prior to post #126 so it's a very reasonable deduction to make.

So going forth with this reasonable deduction.

According to Politifact

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/

The chart is mostly true. Because the data used in the chart isn't absolutely the most recent available.

However it's not a lie as the author of post #127 seems to assert.

In fact just saying "Lying again" without providing counter evidence, I would submit, is exactly the behavior the OP is highlighting in post #1 of this thread.
 
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Steeplerot

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2. Demand that conservatives support them and subsidize their housing, health care, child care, education, Internet access . . .

Also it gives them something to do whilst waiting for their checks to arrive.

Sigh... you owe your whole economy pretty much in your area to TVA and that evil socialist FDR being forward thinking setting up so much power generation by blessings of the land itself.

You all are literally living your whole lives cradle to grave off the taxpayer.


And uh...yeah. I have been to your parts, you all are not exactly known for doing much in those woods but collecting checks and getting hammered on pills/drinking yourselves to death.

Save the conservative moral superiority crap. The culture you try to put on liberals is literally a reflection of your own surroundings. Save it.

I do not think you are a dishonest person Were, but fooling yourself is intellectual dishonesty.
 
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kage69

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Listen up, noise source. My comment was pushing no agenda other than challenging a specific, simple-minded assertion:

Two more points, just for you. First, if you want to be anything more than just another useless partisan hack, you might note who first "Divide[d] humanity into [his] shallowly conceived ideological groups and [tried] to use them to push [his] agenda." Yes, he's on your side so you undoubtedly want to ignore this inconvenient fact. But, that's what makes this an opportunity for you to show you have anything useful to contribute. Otherwise, you're just a brainless RNC puppet, no better than the Cybrsages and Nehalems of P&N.

Second, yes, of course my counterpoint was a broad oversimplification. It was not intended to be an in-depth treatise on American money flow by financial, political, and geographic demographics. It was an in-kind counterpoint to a similarly broad generalization. Either you can't understand that because you're an imbecile, or you refuse to understand that because you're a tool. Either way, the main difference between my comment and Werepossum's is mine is statistically accurate, albeit far from the complete story. His is self-serving whining.

Yes, America is very much a purple country. So what? It doesn't change the data showing that those states that lean more to the left subsidize those states that lean more to the right (on the average, based on federal tax dollars paid vs. federal tax dollars received).

So, get back to me once you've explained to Werepossum that the "world isn't quite as simple as [his] tiny mind would like to believe." Until then, you're inconsequential, another pointless partisan noise source wasting elections on P&N. Have a nice day.





Bad day at the office Bow? *hands out Wet Naps*


I wouldn't go so far as to accuse Bober here of cybersucking, this is just what happens when political dogma doesn't hold up in real life right before an election. Also, in my unprofessional opinion, it's been hot as balls outside pretty much everywhere.
 

Bowfinger

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Bad day at the office Bow? *hands out Wet Naps*


I wouldn't go so far as to accuse Bober here of cybersucking, this is just what happens when political dogma doesn't hold up in real life right before an election. Also, in my unprofessional opinion, it's been hot as balls outside pretty much everywhere.
:)

BoberFett has been here forever, yet (as best as I can remember) it's been years since he's made any attempt to legitimately participate in a discussion. His sole schtick is jumping into random threads and posting gratuitous insults. As in this case, those insults are usually ignorant or asinine, and always disproportionately nasty. (See also, for example, him jumping in to defend Cybrsage's weaseling about the immaterial difference between losing and dropping out.) That means IMO he is 0% signal, 100% noise. He also likes to pretend he is above partisanship, yet he is predictably one-sided in who he attacks.

So my goal with that post was not just to refute his misdirected attack, but also to improve his behavior by rubbing his nose in his own worthless, partisan behavior. I have little hope it will actually help, but it was the response he deserved. If nothing else, it was fun to write. It's far too rare that one actually gets to spank an obnoxious brat that badly needs spanking.
 

kage69

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:)

BoberFett has been here forever, yet (as best as I can remember) it's been years since he's made any attempt to legitimately participate in a discussion. His sole schtick is jumping into random threads and posting gratuitous insults. As in this case, those insults are usually ignorant or asinine, and always disproportionately nasty. (See also, for example, him jumping in to defend Cybrsage's weaseling about the immaterial difference between losing and dropping out.) That means IMO he is 0% signal, 100% noise. He also likes to pretend he is above partisanship, yet he is predictably one-sided in who he attacks.

So my goal with that post was not just to refute his misdirected attack, but also to improve his behavior by rubbing his nose in his own worthless, partisan behavior. I have little hope it will actually help, but it was the response he deserved. If nothing else, it was fun to write. It's far too rare that one actually gets to spank an obnoxious brat that badly needs spanking.



Actually, the bolded is news to me, so...uh yeah...
 

cybrsage

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Yeah, libs are pretending that someone who is not taking part in a contest can actually win the contest. I know, a reasonable person would say it is not possible - but no one claimed the libs here are reasonable people.
 

BoberFett

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Never let the truth get in the way if your agenda, eh Fingerlicker? Fact is, the number one pig at the federal trough was narrowly red in 2004 and overwhelmingly blue in 2008. So much for you and the rest of your idiot partisan friends point...
 

Steeplerot

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Never let the truth get in the way if your agenda, eh Fingerlicker? Fact is, the number one pig at the federal trough was narrowly red in 2004 and overwhelmingly blue in 2008. So much for you and the rest of your idiot partisan friends point...

Once again, you prove his point. You make it way to easy.
 

Mursilis

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You all are literally living your whole lives cradle to grave off the taxpayer.

I honestly don't understand why all you blue-staters get so bent out of shape over red-staters living off the gov't teat. I thought you people were all about selflessness and sharing - you should be happy to support Tenn. pill-poppers and the like. After all, they can't help it - they're society's victims or something like that.
 

Jhhnn

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I honestly don't understand why all you blue-staters get so bent out of shape over red-staters living off the gov't teat. I thought you people were all about selflessness and sharing - you should be happy to support Tenn. pill-poppers and the like. After all, they can't help it - they're society's victims or something like that.

We don't intend to quit- they're also Americans. It's just discouraging when our efforts result in them being more intransigent, more delusional, more likely to stifle progress for all of us. It's a form of extortion.
 

Mursilis

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We don't intend to quit- they're also Americans. It's just discouraging when our efforts result in them being more intransigent, more delusional, more likely to stifle progress for all of us. It's a form of extortion.

Maybe it's time for some tough love then, eh? I've always found it odd that those most adament about the truth of Darwinism are so afraid to allow it to have full effect. Ask any intelligent parent if the way to correct a spoiled child is to spoil him/her some more.
 

Moonbeam

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Maybe it's time for some tough love then, eh? I've always found it odd that those most adament about the truth of Darwinism are so afraid to allow it to have full effect. Ask any intelligent parent if the way to correct a spoiled child is to spoil him/her some more.

Look, don't ask liberals to be intelligent parents to the brain defectives. All they will see is the nanny state, like the cartoon with the woman shouting big government at the fireman come to save her. That's not how this is working out.

In order to gather and maintain power the Republican operatives, the immoral conscienceless sociopaths that do the strategic thinking, prodded the psyches of the weakest minds in America, filling them with paranoid delusions to herd them to the poles. They unleashed the madness of our lesser natures onto the country and not they're fucked. The average better adjusted person has not seen this insanity come to fruition and will seek to end it.

It will be the same sociopath manipulators of the mentally ill that will plot a new course and try to tamp back down the madness. I foresee a new form of evil to come our way hiding behind the concept of cool rationality. They will find a way to give conservative insanity a colorful new calm and rational face. They will be our new saviors from the madness they created. They will also find a way to blame the liberals for that madness, maybe that we are just so mean and hateful, that we could have stopped the lunatics from driving us over a cliff if we had just been nicer.
 

BoberFett

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Once again, you prove his point. You make it way to easy.

Once again, you and the rest of the sheep around here prove that the "liberals" in this forum have the same potential for creative, original thought as a common garden slug.
 

Bowfinger

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Once again, you and the rest of the sheep around here prove that the "liberals" in this forum have the same potential for creative, original thought as a common garden slug.
"Typical partisan. Divide humanity into your shallowly conceived ideological groups and try to use them to push your agenda. Pathetic."

:)
 

HomerJS

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Liberal: Why did your so called fical conservative Paul Ryan vote for TARP?

Conservative: Obama is a muslim socialist!