So true. I was shopping one day and there was a couple in there looking at rings. The place had two rings that were identical in every way except one was platinum and the other was white gold. The platinum ring was almost $17k, the white gold was $6k.
You're going way too far with this.... when you drive a car on the road in the united states you are contributing to the suffering of the mexican illegal immigrants who are worked like dogs in dangerous conditions for almost no money.
When you drink soda, you are contributing to factories in China working children like slaves to make plastic bottles.
The list goes on and on... if you wanted to avoid all exploitation from your daily life you'd have to grow your own food and sew your own clothes. The evil is in the exploitation itself... not in purchasing something that somewhere along the way came into contact of exploitation. You cant even be sure that your diamond was the result of conflict. Many diamond dealers gauruntee their diamonds as non-conflict diamonds...
Stop being such a panzy.... if you feel so bad about it... go there... and save some lives.
-Max
Aharami
Lifer
- Aug 31, 2001
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ok. you get the :thumbsup: in my book.
i got into a heated debate with friend's gf (also my friend) about cultured diamonds. she said she would not have any of that man-made crap. to her, natural diamonds are so much better because they are created by nature...so they are more precious. Also she thinks that natural diamonds are better since they are more $$.
then I told her that diamonds arent rare and unique at all. De Beers sits on them, decreasing supply and thus artifically inflating the price.
I think i lost her as a friend
and i feel bad for my friend (her bf)
You have an interesting interpretation of "like mike". I'm sure they couldn't have meant any correlation to him being "cool" or anything.
And btw, whats with the aggressive hostile-ass tone. Are you capable of saying what you think without "please." and "You are in lala-land" and other such snide remarks?
I have no desire to discuss this with you if you can't take a civil tone.
Oh and for the record, it IS possible for a shoe to make you run faster or jump higher.
It is NOT possible for a diamond to make you love more.
Originally posted by: liluqt
:Q Have a cookie
Seriously... what makes you such a spoiled biatch... do you know how much a 2ct diamond, and platinum ring costs? Go look it up... then only expect it if you are willing to buy him something of equal or greater value to show him your love.
Spoiled little wenches like you is what nearly ruined my engagement process... thankfully my fiancee was blown away by my ring which was way beyond what she expected.
You should take yourself down a couple notches.
-Max
Originally posted by: mugs
You're asking why man-made diamonds AREN'T so bad? I'd like to know why they ARE so bad. Why would a woman prefer an imperfect natural diamond to a perfect synthetic diamond that costs 1/10 as much?
the current manmade diamonds are very yellow.
Wow, thanks for that, pansy huh.
I like how NOBODY here has actually provided a link for this stuff which is what I asked for.
And you know what, I don't drive my car and call it a symbol of my love for someone.
I'm not suggesting that the products I come into contact with are all 100% exploitation free. But again. A can of soda is not the universally accepted symbol of undying love now is it.
Aharami
Lifer
- Aug 31, 2001
- 21,205
- 165
- 106
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: mugs
You're asking why man-made diamonds AREN'T so bad? I'd like to know why they ARE so bad. Why would a woman prefer an imperfect natural diamond to a perfect synthetic diamond that costs 1/10 as much?
the current manmade diamonds are very yellow.
IIRC, there is one company that makes it and it comes out yellow. But there is another up and coming company that is using a different process to create the diamonds. Those dont come out yellow. The only thing is, company B isnt able to culture diamonds bigger than .5 ct...so far
Ahhh I think I finally see where you're coming from. But here's where I think you're wrong. I don't think most women see diamonds as the "true symbol of love"... I think they are very much caught up in the beauty of the ring itself, and the showing off of the engagement. Any woman who would say without the diamond there is no love, is certainly not worth the dog doo on the heel of my boot. However I don't think most women really view it that way... all women love pretty jewelry... of which a diamond ring is pretty much the best.
-Max
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: liluqt
:Q Have a cookie
Seriously... what makes you such a spoiled biatch... do you know how much a 2ct diamond, and platinum ring costs? Go look it up... then only expect it if you are willing to buy him something of equal or greater value to show him your love.
Spoiled little wenches like you is what nearly ruined my engagement process... thankfully my fiancee was blown away by my ring which was way beyond what she expected.
You should take yourself down a couple notches.
-Max
Okay, let's calm it down, please. First of all, there is really no need for name calling or insults. If you knew me in person, I am not like that at all. There is such thing as sarcasm over the internet. I'm very careful about my money and that of my boyfriend's. In fact, for my birthday just a few weeks ago, he wanted to take me on a cruise dinner, but I told him the morning of when he surprised me with the plans that I wanted him to save his money instead so we just stayed home and I could've cared less. We've been together long enough to cherish everyday together as a couple rather than one particular day alone - at least that's what I tell him. It is quite the opposite in our relationship. He's the one who wants to splurge on me, and I lecture him about money. He is the one who talks about getting me the largest diamond and he is the one who wants platinum for me. He is the one I yelled at when he spent hundreds and hundreds on .25 ct diamond earrings when I told him he could've gotten them for $79 somewhere cheaper.
So in my eyes, I don't believe I'm a "wench" or a "biatch."
Not all women love jewelry. My GF doesn't even like jewelry. Had to talk her in to letting me get her an engagement ring.
Originally posted by: liluqt
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: liluqt
:Q Have a cookie
Seriously... what makes you such a spoiled biatch... do you know how much a 2ct diamond, and platinum ring costs? Go look it up... then only expect it if you are willing to buy him something of equal or greater value to show him your love.
Spoiled little wenches like you is what nearly ruined my engagement process... thankfully my fiancee was blown away by my ring which was way beyond what she expected.
You should take yourself down a couple notches.
-Max
Okay, let's calm it down, please. First of all, there is really no need for name calling or insults. If you knew me in person, I am not like that at all. There is such thing as sarcasm over the internet. I'm very careful about my money and that of my boyfriend's. In fact, for my birthday just a few weeks ago, he wanted to take me on a cruise dinner, but I told him the morning of when he surprised me with the plans that I wanted him to save his money instead so we just stayed home and I could've cared less. We've been together long enough to cherish everyday together as a couple rather than one particular day alone - at least that's what I tell him. It is quite the opposite in our relationship. He's the one who wants to splurge on me, and I lecture him about money. He is the one who talks about getting me the largest diamond and he is the one who wants platinum for me. He is the one I yelled at when he spent hundreds and hundreds on .25 ct diamond earrings when I told him he could've gotten them for $79 somewhere cheaper.
So in my eyes, I don't believe I'm a "wench" or a "biatch."
Yeah um... but you still want a 2ct platinum ring... so he's saving his money for what? so he can buy you more later?
A 2ct diamond.... not including the ring costs between 15-25K... just so ya know what we're talking about here.
-Max
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: liluqt
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: liluqt
:Q Have a cookie
Seriously... what makes you such a spoiled biatch... do you know how much a 2ct diamond, and platinum ring costs? Go look it up... then only expect it if you are willing to buy him something of equal or greater value to show him your love.
Spoiled little wenches like you is what nearly ruined my engagement process... thankfully my fiancee was blown away by my ring which was way beyond what she expected.
You should take yourself down a couple notches.
-Max
Okay, let's calm it down, please. First of all, there is really no need for name calling or insults. If you knew me in person, I am not like that at all. There is such thing as sarcasm over the internet. I'm very careful about my money and that of my boyfriend's. In fact, for my birthday just a few weeks ago, he wanted to take me on a cruise dinner, but I told him the morning of when he surprised me with the plans that I wanted him to save his money instead so we just stayed home and I could've cared less. We've been together long enough to cherish everyday together as a couple rather than one particular day alone - at least that's what I tell him. It is quite the opposite in our relationship. He's the one who wants to splurge on me, and I lecture him about money. He is the one who talks about getting me the largest diamond and he is the one who wants platinum for me. He is the one I yelled at when he spent hundreds and hundreds on .25 ct diamond earrings when I told him he could've gotten them for $79 somewhere cheaper.
So in my eyes, I don't believe I'm a "wench" or a "biatch."
Yeah um... but you still want a 2ct platinum ring... so he's saving his money for what? so he can buy you more later?
-Max
Sarcasm?? I don't care what he gets me. You guys don't have to take everything so seriously on here. And I am making him save his money because he still has loans and is still in school while I finished and graduated already. You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
Originally posted by: liluqt
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: liluqt
:Q Have a cookie
Seriously... what makes you such a spoiled biatch... do you know how much a 2ct diamond, and platinum ring costs? Go look it up... then only expect it if you are willing to buy him something of equal or greater value to show him your love.
Spoiled little wenches like you is what nearly ruined my engagement process... thankfully my fiancee was blown away by my ring which was way beyond what she expected.
You should take yourself down a couple notches.
-Max
Okay, let's calm it down, please. First of all, there is really no need for name calling or insults. If you knew me in person, I am not like that at all. There is such thing as sarcasm over the internet. I'm very careful about my money and that of my boyfriend's. In fact, for my birthday just a few weeks ago, he wanted to take me on a cruise dinner, but I told him the morning of when he surprised me with the plans that I wanted him to save his money instead so we just stayed home and I could've cared less. We've been together long enough to cherish everyday together as a couple rather than one particular day alone - at least that's what I tell him. It is quite the opposite in our relationship. He's the one who wants to splurge on me, and I lecture him about money. He is the one who talks about getting me the largest diamond and he is the one who wants platinum for me. He is the one I yelled at when he spent hundreds and hundreds on .25 ct diamond earrings when I told him he could've gotten them for $79 somewhere cheaper.
So in my eyes, I don't believe I'm a "wench" or a "biatch."
No, I wouldn't say you are, and yes, there is such a thing as sarcasm on the internet, there is also no such thing as a tone of voice, or inflections, so you have be a little more....overt in communicating that.
Just stating an opinion that comes SERIOUSLY from the mouths of so many women is not likely to be labled as sarcasm so much as, well, a typical "female" comment.
And honestly, yelling at someone for splurging on you?
Whatever floats your boat sister, as long as he puts up with it you are not doing anything wrong I guess.
oh
sowwy...
well you'd be surprised how many women actually do talk like that and aren't joking.
-Max
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Originally posted by: Doboji
oh
sowwy...
well you'd be surprised how many women actually do talk like that and aren't joking.
-Max
I'm the penny pincher in the relationship. I'm always looking to cut corners and save money WHEREVER possible. If you asked him, he would tell you that I'm very careful about what I buy and am always looking for deals on top of deals. Whenever I go out with his friends, I always try to find ways to save them money too whether it's through a coupon or a connection.
Sorry for the miscommunication.
Originally posted by: liluqt
Originally posted by: Doboji
oh
sowwy...
well you'd be surprised how many women actually do talk like that and aren't joking.
-Max
I'm the penny pincher in the relationship. I'm always looking to cut corners and save money WHEREVER possible. If you asked him, he would tell you that I'm very careful about what I buy and am always looking for deals on top of deals. Whenever I go out with his friends, I always try to find ways to save them money too whether it's through a coupon or a connection.
Sorry for the miscommunication.
Yeah like you said the internet doesnt show sarcasm well...
because I'm an attention whore... here's the ring I got...
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-Max
First off, MANY women view it as such.
Second, if it was all about looks why would it be a GUARANTEED bad day if your girl found out it was a CZ?
Why is platinum, which, as mentioned earlier, dulls faster and requires more cleaning to stay decent looking, so popular with women?
If she REALLY just wants a pretty bit of jewelry, then she would fit into my category potentially, because it would be the ring itself and the fact that it was "natural" that interested her.
And again, the reception showing off to friends. I'm not really interested in a woman like that.
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